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Relationship with family member (brother) ?

danniflava said:
EW.
Just because two gay brothers aren't able to have children if they have sex doesn't mean that it's okay.
It's absolutely sick.
This is the kind of mentality that puts stereotypes on gay people: pedophiles, incest etc..

I honestly can't believe this. We actually live in a world where people think this is okay.
So I can go fuck my daddy if I felt like it.
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Yes.

And, if your mom/aunt/sister/ has their tubes tied, you can fuckemtoo.
 
danniflava said:
EW.
Just because two gay brothers aren't able to have children if they have sex doesn't mean that it's okay.
It's absolutely sick.
This is the kind of mentality that puts stereotypes on gay people: pedophiles, incest etc..

I honestly can't believe this. We actually live in a world where people think this is okay.
So I can go fuck my daddy if I felt like it.
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Chill the fuck out. I didn't say it was okay. I said it's their damned business. Bunker didn't come here to a no flame zone to hear people rant about their views on incest, nor to have people hijack his thread. He came here for advice, and I tried to offer him some without being judgmental.

If you can't hang in a no flame zone without being offensive, then don't post in it.
 
^^ I used to think you were funny. Now I think something's wrong witcha head.

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Dead wrong.
 
Killjoke said:
Chill the fuck out. I didn't say it was okay. I said it's their damned business. Bunker didn't come here to a no flame zone to hear people rant about their views on incest, nor to have people hijack his thread. He came here for advice, and I tried to offer him some without being judgmental.

If you can't hang in a no flame zone without being offensive, then don't post in it.
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Bunker's post was kind of off-topic. He is having sex with two brothers.

I'm talking about the two brothers who are having sex with him.

That's just nasty. Whether or not you find your baby brother or mama attractive, you don't act on it. That's incest. That's just mad nasty.
 
marleyisalegend said:
If you're open for an adult discussion with no insults, could you explain to me what is wong with incest when both parties (or all three parties) are consenting adults? If possible, go into a bit more detail this time, I already know that you think it's "pretty fucking sick." Why?
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If both parties are consenting adults, I still think it's wrong. Honestly, I am not educated enough on the topic [I like to avoid the thought of fucking my mama as often as I can] to discuss with you in detail. I just think there are other people to quench that sexual desire. I just don't see how fucking a family member is even an option -- it shouldn't even be a "if all else fails" option. I would kill myself before I fucked my mama. Or my daddy.

Hetero sex is genetically dangerous, also.
 
A straight brother and sister can't do it for reasons related to the mental/physical status of their children, so I don't see why two gay brothers would be better inclined for it.

They have the same parents. So, they shouldn't act on whatever creepy sexua desires they may have for each other.
 
No one in this thread mentioned anything about screwing their mother or father except for you. Two brothers, both adults, experimenting with each other does not equate to someone having sex with a parent. The parental bond is one that would be rife with psychologically damaging potential because of the power/authority imbalance.

Your rush to equate what Bunker is talking about to incest with a parent is dangerously close to those who take gay sex and immediately compare it to bestiality.
 
marleyisalegend said:
Because?



When I'm not educated on a topic, I refrain from speaking to avoid footinmouth syndrome. But I digress, do you think perhaps the problem is wth you, and not incest?



Why does it matter so much to you who someone else chooses to sleep with?



Easy solution here, don't sleep with your family then.



So you have internal issues with incest, why is it manifesting externally? I don't like octopus but I don't think it's wrong for other people to eat it.



So is sex with men and women over a certain age, or men/women who carry recessive genes for disorders and conditions.
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So I see murders on tv, but b/c I'm not the one doing it, I think it shoul be okay?

This conversation is like kicking a dead horse. I'm outtie!:wave:
 
Killjoke said:
No one in this thread mentioned anything about screwing their mother or father except for you. Two brothers, both adults, experimenting with each other does not equate to someone having sex with a parent. The parental bond is one that would be rife with psychologically damaging potential because of the power/authority imbalance.

Your rush to equate what Bunker is talking about to incest with a parent is dangerously close to those who take gay sex and immediately compare it to bestiality.
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I totally disagree. Where I come from, incest is wrong. It doesn't matter if it is between parents and children or siblings. It is wrong to have sexual relations with people in your immediate family.
 
marleyisalegend said:
The same thing can happen with non-related couples. Perhaps all staright couples should stop having sex.:roll:

For that matter, who are you to control someone else's reproductive habits? They're not going to be asking you to raise the baby if they have one.



You sure do have a lot to say about how other people live their lives.
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I'm pretty sure the chances are much great for two siblings to have a mentally challenged child than two, non-related people.
 
marleyisalegend said:
Pretty sure? That's a strong charge so you should get the FACTS before you go making your mind up. Lemme let you in on a secret. Incest-babies have been walking among us for centuries, I know you were expecting them to have 3 eyes and green skin but, no, they're just like us.

If you respond to this post, PLEASE respond to this question: Why does it matter if they have a mentally challenged baby? You won't be raising the child, so why does it matter?
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Yes, I'm "pretty sure". If I had all the facts, then I would say I'm "sure".
 
marleyisalegend said:
Pretty sure? That's a strong charge so you should get the FACTS before you go making your mind up. Lemme let you in on a secret. Incest-babies have been walking among us for centuries, I know you were expecting them to have 3 eyes and green skin but, no, they're just like us.

If you respond to this post, PLEASE respond to this question: Why does it matter if they have a mentally challenged baby? You won't be raising the child, so why does it matter?
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It matters because children in this world are living a life of lesser quality that was forced on them by their irresponsible parents. The extreme disadvantages of being mentally challenged makes me hope that precautions are being taken to prevent it from happening often.

It seems like you find it okay for anybody to do anything as long as you're not the one doing it.
 
marleyisalegend said:
At one point so was gay sex AKA sodomy. People thought allowing it would herald the apocalypse, just like you guys are acting like incest heralds the apocalypse. No one is approaching this objectively, you have pejudices, preconceived notions, stereotypes, inaccuracies, and sitgma in you subconscious. We all do, that's fine, but you guys are defending it like that's something to be proud of.
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To inlove's credit, he expresses himself and his opinions without being inflammatory, unlike his brother, whose first presence on these boards began that way and continue that way even today. Society's beliefs about incest and the wrongness of it are not founded simply on prejudice--there are some very valid reasons why there are laws against such acts. It's my understanding, however, that those laws and moral reasonings were developed primarily because of heterosexual relationships, and really extend to gays only as a side effect.

However, none of that truly matters in the sense that Bunker's original intent was to seek information and express his concerns. This is a no flame zone, and theoretically, it should be an on topic thread as well.
 
Alright.

Now let me give you lot the facts.

Enough. No more. Take this off topic, bordering on abusive and most likely endless debate somewhere else.

If I actually deleted all the off topic posts from this thread it would be virtually non existent... and thats a shame.

This forum is not about whos right or wrong. Its not about whos morals overrule someone elses nor is it about judgement.

Bunker faces a dilemma here thats as real to him as any of our issues are to us. Brothers or not hearts are involved, peoples lives. If you cant be compassionate to his situation, to the situation of his friends and just how this whole situation came to be created - by the same craziness and misplaced ideology thats going here, then leave the thread.

He faces some of the toughest and dare I say it unique issues that just about any of us could imagine... and he ends up with a thread full of bickering.

Guys... lets get back to topic hey, and the sort of support and advice this place is so good at...please.

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Bunkbuster I think what you are doing with these 2 bros is okay as long as the 3 of you are ok with it. Nobody here has the right nor the facts to judge any of you. Everyone has the right to do whatever they want in this world and all the "right" and "wrong" is based on people's perspectives. I think it's sweet that the the 2 bros have each other being that they are so sheltered and shy and all. Just be careful though because all of your hearts will be at stake with a threesome. ..|
 
Read most of the threads but,

First of all the risk of genetic defects from incest is not significantly higher to warrant its ban. (I was a biochem major). You might as well ban Ashkenazi Jews from having children because of a higher chance of Tay-Sachs (one example).

Secondly, your gut negative reaction to incest is similar to homosexuality. That's how many people...including me...felt about being gay: Ew, it's just disgusting. Think about it though...is there really any reason for feeling that way other than tradition? Brother and sister used to marry all the time in European royalty...it was considered normal. It's just a societal framework and it can work with incest being banned or not.

There's no salient reason to hate it ....so don't.
 
To the OP cuz I don't have time to get bogged down into the whole incest is wrong debate.

If you wanna play with brothers personally I think it's HOT! However, if you're getting into a relationship with the two when before you they didn't think they could have anyone else I think your walking into a mine field wearing a grenade coat with all the pins pulled out carrying a backpack full of C4 with a nuclear Dildo in your butt. :D So have fun with that :D
 
Revulsion towards sex between parents/children and brothers/sisters is a natural response. People are attracted to mates whose genome is different from their own, ensuring that their offspring will be more resistant to disease. The only cases of consensual incest I've heard of are those between family members who were separated by adoption and reunite as adults. Its called "genetic sexual attraction."

There is a big difference between homosexuality and incest. Homosexuality is natural, incest is not. Incest is fetishized because it's a taboo like coprophilia or necrophilia. But not all sexual behaviors are safe or healthy enough to act upon.

To the OP; If you or anyone wanted to have relations with his own brother I would advise against it because of the complications that will inevitably arise later on. In your case you are considering whether or not to join two brothers as part of a 3-way sexual relationship. The younger one is a teenager who until now has only had sexual experiences with his older brother. Both have apparently been emotionally damaged by their parents. The incestous aspect is more of an ethical dilemma for them than for you, but even if you choose to pursue a sexual relationship with both of them I would avoid becoming overly involved. Its sounds like an unstable and potentially combustible situation you might not want to get caught in the middle of.
 
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