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relationship with hiv+ ?

thanks guy......very good advises......

i still haven't make up my mind yet...am scared to dead about the risk....but on the others hand, i really feel sorry for him and probably the way i feel for him, just a mercy feelings sort of little love........

probably i should just call it quit...

sorry for my bad English.
 
Luminum, you seem so pissed off. Can you write something personal about experiences you have had that make you feel the way you do? At 20 you seem very passionate about this issue. It must have some how affected you personally. And your STD argument kinda gives more reasons NOT to date someone positive. You just preached about one point and than turned around and said he could lie so what do you really know about your partner.And you can get rid of most STD's. Yes there are other things besides bare-backing but being in a monogamous committed relationship has it's perks and that's one of them. I don't want to get into this to much but the feeling the both of you feel from bare-backing makes you never wanna use a rubber again. Have you ever barebacked? Cause it is night and day. I trust my partner and to be in a loving committed relationship you have to trust that person completely with your body and soul. I could never share that with someone positive. You always have to worry and if the condom breaks than you're fucked. Sex with your boyfriend should be about the two of you connecting with no barriers. Luminum, if you are negative(I didn't read all your posts so not sure if you are positive) could you really have all that sex with the same man and not worry? Things happen and you could never fully let go. I am not trying to hurt anyone on here. I was a dirty whore in my 20's and only by the grace of God did I not catch H.I.V. My heart is with all of you that are. It must be so hard. But would you really wanna be alone in it while your partner is negative and wouldn't you worry about him every-time you had sex?
 
Have you talked to this guy about your concerns? "I like you, I'm sort of interested in you, but I'm worried about being in a relationship with someone who is HIV+."

Lex
 
thanks guy......very good advises......

.but on the others hand, i really feel sorry for him and probably the way i feel for him, just a mercy feelings sort of little love........

probably i should just call it quit...

sorry for my bad English.

buddy quit now. you said yourself "I feel sorry... just a mercy feelings fort of little love". this is not what a relationship is based on.
 
luminum- you are either HIV+, or you have a HIV+ partner and he is reading this forum and you feel necessary to make him feel good.
In both cases if you feel like knowing more than feel free to PM me.
Thanks

P.S. Percentage of people who can't catch HIV is far more than you think.
 
If you're unsure and you feel pity for him, then by all means don't have sex with him. Pity sex is probably the worst for anyone, HIV+ or not. If fear concerning risk is too much for you to handle, then accept it and move on. It won't make you a bad person. A person's neuroses and general feelings can't really be changed.

As for bluedragon, no, I'm not pissed. I'm just amazed. The topic the majority of posters wrote about was "should HIV+ people be allowed to date and sexually mingle with uninfected people?" The response I saw was that "No, they shouldn't."

When I pushed the issue, what some posters came up with was that it's because it's unsafe....because they refuse to ever use condoms.

If you ask me, if someone is considering a relationship that is also sexual with someone who is HIV+ then by all means they should so long as they take the necessary steps to protect themselves with their partner. To me, using condoms in a relationship where one partner has an STD is a 'no duh'.

Since some posters made comments that sleeping with someone who was HIV+ was incredibly dangerous:

so HIV+ guys our there, if you are consious enough promote this idea to your friends. EXPLAIN them how difficult it is, and what a horrible thing is to live like that, and refuse to do engage in any kind of sexual activite telling them that "THIS IS DANGEROUS".
My first thought was that when having sex with someone who is HIV+, of course it would be dangerous if you weren't using a condom. It's like saying that skydiving is dangerous if you're not using a parachute. of course it is, but who in their right mind doesn't wear a parachute when they skydive, right? I'm establishing that the context of the situation is not one where you automatically assume that both people don't believe in condom use (such as in rollex's case). If that were the context, then HIV+ individuals should probably not have penetrative sex with their uninfected partners. Luckily, it's not.

So while some people are not informed enough to use condoms when they know their partner is HIV+, most people know that sleeping with someone who is telling you they have an STD requires the use of a condom. Therefore, assuming that the condom doesn't break, an uninfected individual sleeping with an infected individual carries very little if not 0 risk.

I'm not upset, but I am passionate about clearing up misconceptions. I don't have to be HIV+ to know the facts. You can have a healthy sexual relationship with an individual who has HIV. You cannot bareback, which is "unfortunate", but with the standard use of a condom, you can basically do anal and oral sex like most other people do anyway.

And Rollex, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not HIV+ and I don't have a partner at all. In fact, I don't personally know anyone who has HIV. I just know the facts. I believe that's the difference between you and me. I'm sorry that you're so misinformed.
 
I totally refuse to have have a relationship with a person who is HIV+ or has an hepatitis with condom. I just can't relax. Usually at some point you stop feeling the condom, and I can't keep thinking "is the condom there, or is it broke, or maybe it slipped out?"
When I am having sex I love to relax and don't think about any STDs.
If the person doesn't havea 'lethal' STD I can just go and get tested if the condom was broke, and if it happens that I cought something I can fix it.

I am 23 and my policy kept off ANY KIND OF STD so far. I have never had any STD, though I have very active sexual life. I do occasional hookups as well.

I will advise to stick to the following strategy.
If you know that the person has ANY STD, than avoid any kind of sexual contact.
IF you are unsure that always us condoms and play safe.
If it's your partner (read wife/husband) than you should get tested together and start playing without condoms.
 
Therefore, assuming that the condom doesn't break, an uninfected individual sleeping with an infected individual carries very little if not 0 risk.

Trusting a condom not to break is too stressful for some/many folks so to enjoy the sex.

That should cross EVERYONE's mind when they hookup too.
 
Thank you for demonstrating the key points in safe sexual health behavior, Rollex. If you're not sure, use a condom.

If you're with an HIV+ individual, always use a condom, and if you're still not convinced that it's safe enough, also use a female condom. Those are the ways you can have sex with an HIV+ individual, be it a hook up or in a long-standing relationship, and remain uninfected.

But, if you don't believe in using condoms, by all means do not have sex with a person who has HIV.

If you do use condoms, but the worry would kill you every time you have sex with your HIV+ partner, it's probably best for your own mental health not to do it. At the same time, if you're too stressed by the possibility of condoms breaking during any uncertain encounters, you probably shouldn't be having those encounters to begin with. (God help all the heterosexuals who must not be enjoying their frequent sexual escapades because they're all worried it will break and cause pregnancy.) It bears mentioning, however, that condoms are durable and rarely break unless they're used improperly. They break when they're stretched to an excess of 800% or they're put on incorrectly to begin with.

So holycrap, if you search yourself and find that it's just something you can't get over, then you probably shouldn't get into a romantic relationship with the goal of also achieving a sexual relationship with him. It doesn't make you a bad person, just human. End it and let the two of you find partners who are more compatible.
 
I used to have a gf 17-21...
When she was close to her periods I'd use condom, right after her periods we wouldn't use any condoms. Needless to say she never got pregnant.
 
Those are really outdated concepts of birth control. Someone in your supposed educational position should know that menstruation does not prevent pregnancy. A girl can get pregnant if she has unprotected sex with a guy during or after her period.

The fact that your girlfriend didn't is lucky and anecdotal, but not a rule to go by. It's been proven that fertilization can and does happen even if she's having her period or she just finished it. I think it would be a good idea if you took a sexual health seminar, including a birth control seminar. Maybe just one workshop that takes place on a Saturday. That way, you could get up to date on information.
 
>>>I'd never go for a realationship where i'd have to use condoms. That's too much stress.

Being in a relationship with ANYBODY involves give and take, on all sorts of things. Yes, it's a deadly disease, and should be treated with respect. But if simple steps reduce the risk to nearly zero, I'd have no problem taking those simple steps. And no, this isn't some sort of feel-good, ebony-and-ivory BS. If my partner told me he was HIV, I'd stick with him. And still have sex with him. We'd just have different sex. No worries.

Lex
 
G-Lex- here are point to consider:

If partner lied from the beginning that's a reason to leave him/her.
If he didn't and he cought it later why didn't he/she give you enough respect to have the 'safe' sex? oh well.

Though I know I wouldn't leave somebody whom I love for that, but I would NEVER get into a new relationship knowingly.
 
I agree that pity sex is not good for a relationship. Personally, I find myself blocked mentally emotionally if I try to have sex with someone who is positive. It's not something I have control over - my sexual urges simply cease. However, if someone tells me they are negative, I still use as much precaution as if they were positive because they may have become infected since they were last tested.

If you can get beyond the emotional hurdle, then you could have a relationship with someone who is positive. So far, this has not happened with me, but I'm not saying that it is impossible. I dated one guy who was positive, and he refused to have sex with me even though we seemed to be very attracted to each other. I don't know if it would have worked out if we had ever gotten to bed.
 
Granted and granted. But why wouldn't you get into a new relationship with an HIV+ person? If the only thing keeping me from entering the relationship was his HIV status, I'd say that wasn't a deal breaker. If I like him enough to enter the relationship, I'd probably like him enough to make the compromises I'd need to (which aren't much in the way of compromises, to my way of thinking) in order to protect myself.

Lex
 
As hard as it might sounds my opinion is that positive person should never seek a relationship with a negative person.
This whole thing is not just a label like RH+ and RH- blood. It is a virus, an infection in your body.

I don't mind socializing with pos guys, but I never, NEVER get into anything sexual with them. If I ever happen to do anything with somebody who is tested positive unknowingly, and than later he confesses, I will turn him to police.

Some people treat this like part of their stats and they just type it the same way they mention their race or their hight, like it is an attribute of their body.

IT IS NOT.

I was about to have an outburst of anger when a guy told me once "you don't mind hooking up with pos guy right?" I am like 'whaaat?'... it's not like you are asking if I will hook up with an asian or lation or a black guy... Some people just don't get it.

anti AIDS camaigns have their part in this too. On one hand they promote safe sex not to catch up STDs on the other hand they say, that it's not that easy to catch HIV. btw: when I say STD that also includes HIV/AIDS. one time I sow "STD FREE, HIV+". I still don't get the logic.

They should change their campaigns and promote no sexual contact between those who are tested to be positive and those who are HEALTHY.


I know there are some HIV+ people here. I don't want anybody to feel bad about this. But this is the truth.....

For ALL KIDS OUT THERE.. PLEASE DON'T DO ANYTHING SEXUAL WITH HIV+ person... please....
and for all HIV+s here... PLEASE NEVER ASK/EXPECT a negative person to do anything sexual with you...

Thanks for reading, and SORRY if this was painful for anybody...

It is not only painful but even more so it is very ignorant and discriminatory.[-X
 
Well thats up to you. Me i woudnt do it its way to Risky and they relationship woudnt be too enjoyable becuse i will be worrying did i caught it blah blah blah. Plus i know at some point i want to take the condom off
 
It is not only painful but even more so it is very ignorant and discriminatory.[-X

I am sorry sir, but I think I have got a very good reason to discriminate. It's about my personal health and well being. I am not saying those who are HIV+ should not be a full members of society. I am just saying that they should not be part of my sexual life, and I feel I have the full right to say so. And no it is not ignorant
 
luminum I saw you wrote you weren't positive or dating or knew anyone positive. I know you are just saying what the "facts" are but it's such a different story when you're in it. I could also read a bunch of stuff that doesn't involve me and have an opinion but I much rather hear from people who have been there. I'm not saying your opinion doesn't count but it's all facts and no experience.
 
hi guys...

we talked last nite....and i put out...i still scared and the best way just to let it go.....and he sort of " i know why you dont want me".......i felt so sorry for him.....
 
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