Rise of Fascism in the United States [SPLIT]

[rareboy]

And ICE complain about being compared to the Gestapo.

 

[rareboy]

How will Palantir ensure a fascist state? By putting a person's entire life in a file that can be accessed
with ease. And it isn't the data. It is always about the algorithms.

The most chilling pehaps will be medical data being more readily available and extrapolated for political
and social purposes.

 

[Riverrick]

How will Palantir ensure a fascist state? By putting a person's entire life in a file that can be accessed
with ease. And it isn't the data. It is always about the algorithms.

The most chilling pehaps will be medical data being more readily available and extrapolated for political
and social purposes.

Yes, the medical data is very chilling. Medicare and Medicaid claims that expose your private health concerns including mental health disorders, STD treatments and the medications you are taking. It's also my understanding that Palantir pulls real time data from your social networking posts to give an up-to-date snapshot of where you are and what you are thinking.

How safe are our posts on this website?

 

[KaraBulut]

How safe are our posts on this website?

It is safe because the forum is set up for anonymity.

We get asked about JUB's policy about having no personally-identifiable information available in public areas of the forum. This is why we have that rule and why we remove personally-identifiable information.

Anything posted anywhere on the internet can be collected used by companies like Palantir, Google, Apple, et al. It's why we remove any phone number, email address, etc in the public areas of the forum.

 

[rareboy]

Yes, the medical data is very chilling. Medicare and Medicaid claims that expose your private health concerns including mental health disorders, STD treatments and the medications you are taking. It's also my understanding that Palantir pulls real time data from your social networking posts to give an up-to-date snapshot of where you are and what you are thinking.

How safe are our posts on this website?

Your concerns definitely come into play for people using their real identities including pictures of themselves.
Because every Palantir file will find and include photos.

It is why I post nothing on-line and try to yank any that friends and family may tag me in and share.

Americans should be very wary of posting face shots on any social media now unless they don't care. And some won't.

 

[KaraBulut]

I've mentioned this before, but it's a good time for a reminder:

This is the count of who is currently browsing our forum:
Total: 1,314 (members: 132, guests: 1,182)

Notice that 1,182 "guests". Those are people looking at the forum without having logged into an account. Over 100 of those guests are bots from companies like Google, Apple, Yandex (a Russian service), et al.

We restrict what those "guests" can see in the forums- they cannot see your profile information, for example. But if someone posts their phone number or email address in a forum post, usually by the time a moderator removes it, the bots have already found it.

The older members know the rules and are generally careful about posting personal information in the forum but the newer members (and especially some of the younger members) don't realize that companies like Palantir are scraping data off every public website on the internet (including JUB) continuously.

 

[Kulindahr]

The older members know the rules and are generally careful about posting personal information in the forum but the newer members (and especially some of the younger members) don't realize that companies like Palantir are scraping data off every public website on the internet (including JUB) continuously.

Might not be a bad idea to post a sticky warning just to remind folks of the risks.

 

[KaraBulut]

FYI- a Federal judge just quoted Kafka in a ruling against the Trump Administration. This is where we are.

Judge cites Kafka in giving Venezuelans held in El Salvador chance to challenge removal

Washington's chief federal trial judge likened the administration's Salvadoran renditions to a novel known for depicting an absurd legal ordeal.

www.msnbc.com

...While citing what he called the administration’s “troubling conduct throughout this case,” Boasberg said U.S. officials must facilitate the ability of a class of at least 137 plaintiffs, held in El Salvador’s Center for Terrorism Confinement (CECOT), to seek habeas corpus relief, so that they can challenge their removal under the Alien Enemies Act. They didn’t get due process when the government summarily sent them to that foreign prison in March, so they need to get it now. The chief federal judge in Washington, D.C., left open how exactly that will happen, giving the government a week to tell him how it plans to carry out his directive...

“In our nation — unlike the one into which K. awakes — the Government’s mere promise that there has been no mistake does not suffice,” the Obama appointee wrote, referring to Kafka’s protagonist.

 

[rareboy]

At least the hollowing out of the Law firm Paul Weiss continues as people leve to join the firms that fought Trump's dictates.

WaPo might want to have a sit down and a good think about this.

 

[rareboy]

And this will be the final step in creating an army that will turn on Americans.
It isn't about immigration.

Where are the 2nd amendment fanboys now?

 

[Kulindahr]

^
There's a fine line to toe there since courts have ruled that National Guard units can't be used as police with some narrow exceptions, e.g. keeping order during natural disasters.
Though this is the sort of thing we should have expected the moment they came up with "Homeland Security".

 

[KaraBulut]

Well, where's that well-regulated militia when you need them?

Though this is the sort of thing we should have expected the moment they came up with "Homeland Security".

It is time to break up that department.

 

[rareboy]

Too late.

TrumpCo. is moving forward with plans to turn the National Guard on citizens of LA. Some 2000 are being prepared for deployment.

And....





TrumpCo. is moving toward declaring martial law. And declaring the kind of emergency that would permit him to seize all power in the US.

It is the pretext that they have been waiting for.

 

[Alistair]

Time for an Underground Railroad where we hide illegal immigrants in our own homes.

Damn, kind of sounds like Ann Frank doesn’t it.

 

[rareboy]

The announcement:

 

[rareboy]

The Governor has not consented.

 

[Alistair]

 

[rareboy]

^ But will there be anyone there to answer?

Meanwhile:

This of course will just make them invoke the Insurrection Act.

 

[KaraBulut]

This is something that has played out in Russia, Turkey and Hungary- crony capitalism and oligarchy.

Another Stephen Miller project...

The Real Goal of the Trump Economy

The president isn’t trying to engineer prosperity for Americans. He’s seeking power for himself.

www.theatlantic.com

The Real Goal of the Trump Economy​

The president isn’t trying to engineer prosperity for Americans. He’s seeking power for himself.

A quarter century ago, Vladimir Putin gathered 21 of Russia’s top oligarchs in the Kremlin to let them know that he, not they, held power in Russia. The young Russian president (not yet for life) informed them that they could keep the wealth they’d amassed if they complied with his political goals. Partnership with Putin held out the prospect of safety, and even greater riches. “We received confirmation,” an attendee named Mikhail B. Khodorkovsky said, “that the development of Russian business is one of the state’s top priorities.”

Most of the oligarchs submitted, but those who didn’t went to prison or into exile, lest they fall prey to the country’s epidemic of window-plunging deaths. (Khodorkovsky was imprisoned, putatively for fraud and tax evasion, but really for supporting independent media and opposition parties.) Since then, affinity for Putin has been a sine qua non of high-level economic success in Russia.

An eerily reminiscent scene played out late last year at Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Winter Palace, where Stephen Miller, one of Trump’s loyalty enforcers, met with Meta’s CEO, Mark Zuckerberg. The weather was more pleasant, and presumably neither party contemplated defenestration as a settlement alternative, but many other details seemed to echo. “Mr. Miller told Mr. Zuckerberg that he had an opportunity to help reform America, but it would be on President-elect Donald J. Trump’s terms,” The New York Times reported. Because Trump had recently warned, “We are watching [Zuckerberg] closely, and if he does anything illegal” during Trump’s second term, “he will spend the rest of his life in prison,” this opportunity must have sounded enticing. Zuckerberg indicated that he would not in any way obstruct Trump’s agenda, according to the Times, and foisted blame for any prior offenses onto subordinates.

By the time Trump assumed power, Zuckerberg was lavishing him with praise. “We now have a U.S. administration that is proud of our leading companies,” he gushed of the man who had once threatened him with prison, “that prioritizes American technology winning. And that will defend our values and interests abroad.” His rehabilitation complete, Zuckerberg assumed a place of pride at Trump’s inauguration, alongside Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, and other titans of industry. His eyes were now on the future, and the promised Trumpian Golden Age.

 

[rareboy]

He was likely directly coached on how to do this in one of his pillow chats with Putin.