Ron Paul plans to keep donation from white supremacist donor

[Homoaffectional]

Ron Paul plans to keep donation from white supremacist donor [MERGED]

This can only help him peel away votes from the Republican base , especially since Tancredo's about to retire soon, and they won't have anyone to throw their weight behind.

Paul keeps white supremacist donation
By BRIAN SKOLOFF, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 44 minutes ago



Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul has received a $500 campaign donation from a white supremacist, and the Texas congressman doesn't plan to return it, an aide said Wednesday.
Don Black, of West Palm Beach, recently made the donation, according to campaign filings. He runs a Web site called Stormfront with the motto, "White Pride World Wide." The site welcomes postings to the "Stormfront White Nationalist Community."
"Dr. Paul stands for freedom, peace, prosperity and inalienable rights. If someone with small ideologies happens to contribute money to Ron, thinking he can influence Ron in any way, he's wasted his money," Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said. "Ron is going to take the money and try to spread the message of freedom."
"And that's $500 less that this guy has to do whatever it is that he does," Benton added.
Black said he supports Paul's stance on ending the war in Iraq, securing U.S. borders and his opposition to amnesty for illegal immigrants.
"We know that he's not a white nationalist. He says he isn't and we believe him, but on the issues, there's only one choice," Black said Wednesday.
"We like his stand on tight borders and opposition to a police state," Black told The Palm Beach Post earlier.
On his Web site, Black says he has been involved in "the White patriot movement for 30 years." <---------- Of course, since the guy never claimed himself to be a racist, we know there's no way for us to know that he is.

Link.

 

[MystikWizard]

And allow Paul himself to respond to that $500 donation.

This must have been an attempt by FOX for Ron attacking Huckabee yesterday morning on FOX & Friends.

Unfortunately, it backfires and FOX News gets owned again.

 

[iman]

Didn't Paul criticize other candidates for taking too much money from corporate interests? Wasn't Clinton excoriated for taking money from a questionable source? Can Obama take money from radical Black groups or Muslims? Is there a double standard here?

 

[beekman001]

Didn't Paul criticize other candidates for taking too much money from corporate interests? Wasn't Clinton excoriated for taking money from a questionable source? Can Obama take money from radical Black groups or Muslims? Is there a double standard here?

I dont see how. The donation in question was made by an individual (who happened to be a white supremicist) not a PAC, corportation, or other special interest group.

 

[iman]

What the hell is the difference between an individual contribution or one from some group. I suppose it would be OK if Tony Soprano or Fred Phelps donates?

Most candidates would want to disassociate themselves from these kind of financial sources because it lends credibility to the donor.

SHAME ON RON PAUL!

 

[opinterph]

On his Web site, Black says he has been involved in "the White patriot movement for 30 years." <---------- Of course, since the guy never claimed himself to be a racist, we know there's no way for us to know that he is.

Evidence suggests that not all supporters of the “patriot movement” are racist.

The so-called "patriot movement" is a diverse, loose-knit group of right-wing paramilitary and Christian organizations, including armed militia units, tax protesters, anti-abortionists, white supremacists, sovereign citizens and survivalists.

While specific beliefs vary widely from group to group, the general theme of the patriot movement is that the "liberal" United States Government, no longer constrained by the U.S. Constitution, has become too centralized and authoritarian and thus exerts its regulatory authority unjustly over nearly every phase of American life. [More …]

Don Black, of West Palm Beach, recently made the donation, according to campaign filings. He runs a Web site called Stormfront

The evidence seems overwhelming that Mr. Black is racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Black_(white_nationalist)​

I visited his “Stormfront” website tonight and noticed that the most recently active thread in the “Newslinks & Articles” forum is titled: “Ron Paul Doomed?” The forum is described as “All news of interest to White Nationalists.”

Wiki: White nationalism​

In promoting its members to remain in compliance with copyright laws, the Stormfront site limits “fair use” excerpts to 65 words (or less) of material quoted from other sources. Abiding by that standard, here are 65 words from the initial post in the Ron Paul thread:

Paul … didn't need to be splashed all over the news in connection with Stormfront. Goodness knows it has boosted traffic here to no end-was that the intent? … And its just the beginning. Now that Ron has been connected with Stormfront, everyone and their mother is going to dig even further to see if there is any other hint of "racism" in Ron's past. [Link]

That poster goes on to point out the “big problem” associated with this digging in Ron Paul’s past and links to this:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740​

I found both the Stormfront thread and the Dailykos blog as interesting reads. (I don’t understand why the OP labeled this thread “humor/satire.”)

 

[JayHawk]

Come one are you fucking serious. take that idiots money and run. You know whether you like it or not that person has the FREEDOM to believe whatever arcane idiotic bullshit they want. All of you as Americans shouyld support it as much as you support gay rights.

 

[construct]

I agree that the money need not be returned. Once you separate the fool from his money, you can use the money against him. The problem is whether Rep. Paul is a closet white supremacist.

 

[beekman001]

What the hell is the difference between an individual contribution or one from some group. I suppose it would be OK if Tony Soprano or Fred Phelps donates?

Most candidates would want to disassociate themselves from these kind of financial sources because it lends credibility to the donor.

SHAME ON RON PAUL!

In this case, there's a really big one. When special interests donate to a candidate, they're not just supporting the candidate's positions they're out and out buying infulence. Ron Paul has stated explicitly that this guy isnt getting any special influence. If thats the case I dont see why the money should be given back. This guy will only use it to spread more hate.

Also, most candidates would want to disassociate themselves from these kinds of doaners not because it somehow lends credibility to the source but because they(the candidates) dont want to look like they've been bought by white supremicists / the mob / some nutty preacher.

This gets at the heart of why Ron Paul is different. He doesnt get money from people by whoring himself out to special interests for millions of dollars a pop. Ron Paul's money comes from real people who support him because he has the best platform and best vision for this country.

 

[beekman001]

That poster goes on to point out the “big problem” associated with this digging in Ron Paul’s past and links to this:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

Yada yada yada, already been debunked. The article in question was written by a ghost writer and was immediately retracted and an appology issued.

 

[Apollo]

What the hell is the difference between an individual contribution or one from some group. I suppose it would be OK if Tony Soprano or Fred Phelps donates?

Most candidates would want to disassociate themselves from these kind of financial sources because it lends credibility to the donor.

SHAME ON RON PAUL!

Ron Paul said straight up he doesnt want money from them nor does he support them. He said it point blank. he didn't do the politician walk around and try and confuse us. He said "i dont support them, i dont want their money, nor their support."

 

[construct]

Ron Paul said straight up he doesnt want money from them nor does he support them. He said it point blank. he didn't do the politician walk around and try and confuse us. He said "i dont support them, i dont want their money, nor their support."

If he doesn't want their money, then why won't he return it? Sen. Dole returned a contribution from the Log Cabin Republicans in 1996. Rep. Paul could follow Sen. Dole's example if he wanted to.

BTW, did you look over the Daily Kos link that Opinterph posted?

 

[Apollo]

Why give back money to a group that will only use it for bad? Why not take their money and use it to spread a different message from the one white supremacists believe in. Use their own money agaisnt them. Not to mention, he most likely have already spent it and why give them money that might have come from, say, a gay rights group.

 

[JayHawk]

Ron Paul of all the candidates is not bought and sold period. That I believe.

 

[MystikWizard]

If he doesn't want their money, then why won't he return it? Sen. Dole returned a contribution from the Log Cabin Republicans in 1996. Rep. Paul could follow Sen. Dole's example if he wanted to.

BTW, did you look over the Daily Kos link that Opinterph posted?

Would you want to give $500 to Stormfront then for them to use for their purposes? No?? Good. Ron doesn't either. Now, what if the NAACP donated money to your campaign? Is that okay, then? What if AIPAC gave him $500? What if an Arab American group gave him the money?

This kind of political pandering to special interests groups is coming to an end. Because instead, Ron will use that $500 for what is best for his campaign ... no matter who gives it to him. That does not mean that he endorses the views of those who give him the money.

I know that $500 from one individual is something else, compared to the $18.4 Million he's raised thus far this quarter ... isn't it? Especially when you compare it to the hundreds of thousands of dollars other politicians have taken from actual lobbyists who expect favors in return.

This is how people get desperate when they can't find anything else on a candidate's past or record. But it's to be expected in the world of politics.

 

[construct]

Why give back money to a group that will only use it for bad? Why not take their money and use it to spread a different message from the one white supremacists believe in. Use their own money agaisnt them. Not to mention, he most likely have already spent it and why give them money that might have come from, say, a gay rights group.

Well, that's what I said, but the question remains as to whether Rep. Paul is closet white supremacist.

Edited to add: Wait a minute! "Already spent it!" It's only $500.

 

[JayHawk]

How do you infer that he is a clset white supremacist? Seriously? Is it because he is a white male? This is as ridiculous as asking if Obama is a drug dealer. And the Dems have no capable smear machine.......lol

 

[construct]

One might infer that he is a closet white supremacist from his writings in the 1990s. Have you looked over the Daily Kos thread that Opinterph linked?

 

[MystikWizard]

One might infer that he is a closet white supremacist from his writings in the 1990s. Have you looked over the Daily Kos thread that Opinterph linked?

Like someone responded to you with ... which you purposely ignored, this was a ghostwriter that was immediately let go and Paul apologized 1,000 times for.

People like you, with a political agenda are going to bring it up, and quite frankly, that's fine. Because it will be addressed again and again ... as much as you want to beat it like a dead horse until you are blue in the face. Because you obviously don't have anything on him as far as his voting record, scandals, or pandering to special interest groups, now do you?

Here was an interview, in which he was asked to respond to it.

Muckraker Report: My next few questions concern race relations. In a 1992 newsletter, arguing that government should lower the age at which juvenile criminals can be prosecuted as adults, you wrote, “We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.” In the same newsletter, you also wrote, “What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?” Obviously, there are many Americans, and not just blacks and Asians, who would find these comments upsetting. What would you say to these people?

Congressman Ron Paul: In 1992, I was back in medicine full time, but lent my name to a foundation that published large volumes of material. A staffer wrote some things under my name that I did not approve. I have taken responsibility for these comments and apologized. If you look at my 30-year record and my numerous writings on the subject of race, I think anyone will clearly see that those comments do not reflect my beliefs.

http://www.teamliberty.net/id447.html


Now, do you want to be fair and look up the number of articles he's placed decrying racism, and post them here to be "fair and balanced" ... or do you want me to do that for you, to further expose your political agenda?

By the way, you might also want to ask why Paul polls the highest amongst African American voters in the GOP, as well. Even they don't buy it either.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-re...ighest-polling-republican-among-black-voters/

Now, what else do you got?

 

[Apollo]

Well, that's what I said, but the question remains as to whether Rep. Paul is closet white supremacist.

Edited to add: Wait a minute! "Already spent it!" It's only $500.

Of course he isnt a white supremacist. He was on Meet the Press I believe and they asked him about the White Supremacist thing, and he said point blank he doesn't want their money nor does he support them and he will use the money agaisnt them. He didn't give a walk around, he didn't talk in circles, he said no absolutely no filler.