Sarah Palin, having given no indications that she wants to run for President...

[Kulindahr]

I really wish you people wouldn't use that word.

Would you call your mother, sisters, aunts, etc. that?

If I used the word at all, I would if they deserved it.

Personally, I don't think Palin qualifies -- she doesn't have enough substance to deserve such an insult.

Stop with this Springer. You're hanging out in a gay porn forum. If you're offended then leave.

Actually, he's hanging out in a gay community forum. It's kept distinct from the porn part. It's possible to come here and never see porn. It's possible to come here and despise porn.

But yes -- if he's offended, he can leave. Or, he can stay and argue against what he thinks is uncivilized.

 

[Kulindahr]

I have to agree with Jack Springer here. What happened to tasteful political discourse? Whatever happened to, "We can disagree without being disagreeable?"

It doesn't matter what kind of forum this is.

That's a good point. If it's okay to excuse behavior people wouldn't approve of in public on the basis that this is a gay porn forum, that's rather an insult to gays, a sort of "boys will be boys" thing about misbehavior. It assumes that gays can only be expected to live up to a lesser standard.

 

[Kulindahr]

Sarah Palin has gay friends. Therefore, she is gay-friendly.

Just because Sarah supports marriage between one man & one woman, does not mean that she "hates" gay people. She loves her gay conservative bois especially. Sarah Palin knows that she is the "diva" for most gay conservative bois.

Drew Sweatte, a gay Republican candidate in his 20s who ran unsuccessfully for Palm Springs' city council, has blogged in the past about camping all night in Arizona to meet Sarah Palin for her book signing. When he met her in person, he made sure to tell Sarah Palin how much he loved her, and how he "wasn't like the other gays."

One of Sarah's friends is a politically active gay man -- Kevin DuJan.

Kevin DuJan is a gay man who lives in Boystown, Chicago, and he is one of Sarah Palin's strongest supporters. He blogs about his life & politics on his blog, Hillbuzz. He has written about how hard it is to date gay men in Chicago once they find out about his political views. Once, a liberal gay found out who he was, and threw his drink in Kevin's face at a bar!

Kevin DuJan is a blogger and his blog is one of my favorites (he's cute too!) --

Stalin had friends who were Jews, too -- that doesn't mean he was Jew-friendly, it means that he made exceptions for ones who knew their place.

Palin's friendship with a few gays is either hypocritical, something known as a cognitive disconnect, or Stalin-like.

 

[BostonPirate]

That's a good point. If it's okay to excuse behavior people wouldn't approve of in public on the basis that this is a gay porn forum, that's rather an insult to gays, a sort of "boys will be boys" thing about misbehavior. It assumes that gays can only be expected to live up to a lesser standard.

Conversely

some people are just controlling and want to tell other people what to do and how to speak. We fought more than one war over that kind of shit.

Its unamerican

 

[JayQueer]

Stalin had friends who were Jews, too -- that doesn't mean he was Jew-friendly, it means that he made exceptions for ones who knew their place.

So what are you going to do if the Presidency and Senate go back to Republican control after the November 2012 election?

(Which is becoming more and more of a possibility, given public polling trends and Obama approval ratings)

 

[Kulindahr]

She's a pig in lipstick, who uses her fans to grift for a living.

you know.

A republican.

FOX would have had to have fired her when they fired the other ones if she was going to run. She's just a talking head now.

Anne Cunter with a gun.

She doesn't have the spine or substance to be an Anne Coulter.

Nice to see you around!

 

[Kulindahr]

This, ladies and gentlemen, is proof of how Sarah Palin has done so much damage to the mindset of millions of people in this country. Here you have an individual, who is truly saddened by this woman not running for the Presidency. He actually believed a mayor of an Alaskan town, and a one-term quitting governor could somehow "restore what is so great in America," without even explaining what that restoration is.

You see, Sarah Palin is the Anita Bryant of Absurdity. Her image is entirely superficial. She has manipulated and used her followers for personal financial gain. In a way, she is very intelligent. She knows her life is much more profitable going around in a tour bus and selling books that make her a millionaire rather than being a serious politician. She has embraced celebrity status, even going so far as trademarking her name. For that is what Sarah Palin is, a trademark. A product to sell to the masses much like Jersey Shore or the Kardashian Sisters.

Which is why, despite all the jokes that are made at her expense, it is still very sad to see an individual like the one above who truly believes in her.

 

[Kulindahr]

So what are you going to do if the Presidency and Senate go back to Republican control after the November 2012 election?

(Which is becoming more and more of a possibility, given public polling trends and Obama approval ratings)

If they keep behaving like they are?

Stock up on ammo and get ready to move to the back woods when the economy totally collapses. And it will, if the 'policies' the House Republicans have been pursuing are put into practice, because it will increase the poverty rate to over half the population and destroy the rest of the country's manufacturing base by increasing the number of factories outside the country replacing American jobs.

 

[JayQueer]

If they keep behaving like they are?

Stock up on ammo and get ready to move to the back woods

I don't get it. If you stock up on "ammo" and "move to the back woods" you will be moving amongst more conservatives & Republicans.

In almost every American city, in almost every state -- conservatives & Republicans tend to live in the rural, more sparsely developed, "country" areas, and liberals & Democrats live in the "urban" densely-developed city.

How the Presidential elections turn out is usually dependent on how the suburban voters vote -- you know those people who live in detached, single family houses with a 2-car garage, and who drive to work, the gym, to pick up the groceries, and to drop off their children at school. The wife watches Oprah, and the husband watches the NFL & college football. In 2004, these people went for Bush. In 2008, they went for Obama.

 

[CowboyBob]

Actually, he's hanging out in a gay community forum. It's kept distinct from the porn part. It's possible to come here and never see porn. It's possible to come here and despise porn.

But yes -- if he's offended, he can leave. Or, he can stay and argue against what he thinks is uncivilized.

Those who aren't JUB supporters have porn ads on the page. He sees porn with every click of his mouse. He sees that but is offended by the word "cunt".

It's his ploy to degrade those who are disgusted by Palin's antics.

 

[JayQueer]

Those who aren't JUB supporters have porn ads on the page. He sees porn with every click of his mouse. He sees that but is offended by the word "cunt".

It's his ploy to degrade those who are disgusted by Palin's antics.

If you're referring to me, I'll say that, yes this a porn site that has a forum that is dedicated to all kinds of LGBT-centric topics. I think it's sad that you try to degrade JUB as merely just a "porn site" when JUB was the last place that Tyler Clementi came to for help about his roommate spying situation.

Tyler Clementi, in the aftermath of his death, was the reason I even found out about Just Us Boys in the first place.

It's possible to enter the forums without even directly seeing any porn scenes if you bookmark your browser appropriately.

I am generally very clean with my language. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I don't believe in using slurs against anyone, or even swear or "cuss" words. I even put asterisks when I use a swear word -- in all of my posts, if you see that I mention the word f*ck or c*ck, I hardly ever spell it out. Maybe I'm just a traditional, "old values" kind of guy.

Lastly, you can strongly, even vehemently disagree with someone's politics while still giving them some dignity as a human.

I am not a fan of President Obama, but I have never used a derogatory or racial slur, or such rude language towards him. If I did, please show me. You won't be able to find any.

 

[Kulindahr]

I don't get it. If you stock up on "ammo" and "move to the back woods" you will be moving amongst more conservatives & Republicans.

That all depends on what stretch you go to.

How the Presidential elections turn out is usually dependent on how the suburban voters vote -- you know those people who live in detached, single family houses with a 2-car garage, and who drive to work, the gym, to pick up the groceries, and to drop off their children at school. The wife watches Oprah, and the husband watches the NFL & college football. In 2004, these people went for Bush. In 2008, they went for Obama.

Yeah, I know those voters -- they're the ones whose jobs are disappearing because Republicans have pushed economic policies that move those jobs overseas, whose real incomes have been shrinking because Republican economic policies have been shunting the country's income to the already wealthy.

If Americans voted on the basis of what would be good for the economy and their own economic well-being, not a single Republican would win in 2012.

 

[Dolmance]

This is precisely, precisely the kind of reaction everyone else in the Western world has to Sarah Palin:

 

[quasar]

Sarah Palin has gay friends. Therefore, she is gay-friendly.

Just because Sarah supports marriage between one man & one woman, does not mean that she "hates" gay people...

She may well have gay friends, but anyone who does not support full equality for gay men and women is NOT gay friendly. It's the old 'going to a church on Sunday doesn't make one a Christian any more than my standing in a garage makes me a car' cliche.

 

[Just_Believe18]

John Cleese's laugh at the sound of Sarah Palin's name cracked me up!

 

[palemale]

This is precisely, precisely the kind of reaction everyone else in the Western world has to Sarah Palin:

John Cleese's last statement, about the Republican Party making Sarah Palin the running mate of a 72 yr old cancer survivor, is what ultimately is the real newsworthy aspect of the Sarah Palin story. She is so incompetent to be President, so intellectually inadequate, that it really is a scandal that she ran as VP and that FOX News still gives her a platform to spew her ill-informed nonsense. It's also a continuing embarrassment to the United States that she ever got into that position in the first place.

 

[MoltenRock III]

How many millions of $$$ did Sarah raise in her "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" I am running by not running, into her PAC, SuperPAC, campaign?

 

[CowboyBob]

How many millions of $$$ did Sarah raise in her "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" I am running by not running, into her PAC, SuperPAC, campaign?

She was milking her followers for even more of their cash.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/sarahpac-asking-support-palin-decides-whether-jump-race

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/ric...rah-palin-not-running-president?newsfeed=true

She's not a politician anymore, she's a celebrity cashing in on her fame. Will there be an investigation into her fundraising schemes when she never planned to run for office in the first place? It's dishonest and possibly criminal.

 

[justdra]

John Stewart called her out on her lies last night. Bristol stated back in June the family had already made a decision about whether or not her mother was going to run and just a few weeks ago Sarah was sending out emails to her supporters asking for a one time big donation to support her possible run for President when everyone knew she wasn't running to begin with. She gets to keep all the money she raised, reportedly over a million dollars, which isn't anywhere near the amount she would need to make a decent run, but a nice addition to her bank account, but she already knew that too.

 

[Kulindahr]

John Stewart called her out on her lies last night. Bristol stated back in June the family had already made a decision about whether or not her mother was going to run and just a few weeks ago Sarah was sending out emails to her supporters asking for a one time big donation to support her possible run for President when everyone knew she wasn't running to begin with. She gets to keep all the money she raised, reportedly over a million dollars, which isn't anywhere near the amount she would need to make a decent run, but a nice addition to her bank account, but she already knew that too.

Politicians shouldn't be allowed to keep leftover campaign money. It should be required to be donated to something like the national parks.