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See how long it takes you to spot what is wrong in this picture LOL

I don't doubt that it's up to code, but …

[LFLOAT]:alien:[/LFLOAT]

And I don't doubt your good intentions, but it is what it is. I'm not going to spend thousands to replace the whole system to fix something that doesn't even violate the city codes.

Closing is coming up soon. What would you like me to do about this?
 
What would you like me to do about this?

If you are selling the property, simply smile and sign the closing documents.

The new owner can make modifications if he/she desires. :)
 
If you're selling, you must disclose known code violations. (Especially now that they're on the NET.) As a buyer, make an earnest offer with a contingency regarding code compliance costs.
 
Different states treat disclosure differently, mostly due to state legislatures whoring themselves out to the realty lobby and to the lack of any locals willing to take up Ralph Nader's cause and be the consumer advocate we need. In fairness, there has to be a broad support to turn the legislature away from the corrupt money of the lobbyist.

The fact that the original inspection passed is now irrelevant, but the situation changed when Zombie essentially directed the contractor to change the configuration. Whereas it is true that the contractor violated code, the property owner is now aware of it and shares an ethical obligation to inform the buyer regardless of whether there is any legal liability.

And, the legal liability could be there too (although I have zilch knowledge of city, county, or state standards for Chicago.) The seller gave the buyer the right of inspection after the offer was accepted for the sale. The sale was contingent (usually) on the inspection(s) not revealing any untenable condition (barring the sale being in As Is condition). It is clear now that the condition of the furnace flue is now changed post-inspection, and with the knowledge of the seller, so the liability would seem likely.

Zombie, I think you are worried for nothing. If I were you, I would get the contractor back, and this time have a letter from your lawyer in hand. Your letter should detail that you hired him, he performed substandard work, and then returned to correct it by performing an illegal alteration that resulted in an unsafe condition. With no smiles, no happy face, and with a witness present, demand that he immediately make correction to the system at his expense lest you proceed to legal action as well as reporting to the licensing authorities for city, county and state.

The first error was somewhat amusing -- this second is too much. It isn't your problem, but his.
 
It sure as hell wouldn't pass in Ontario.
 
Different states treat disclosure differently, mostly due to state legislatures whoring themselves out to the realty lobby and to the lack of any locals willing to take up Ralph Nader's cause and be the consumer advocate we need. In fairness, there has to be a broad support to turn the legislature away from the corrupt money of the lobbyist.

The fact that the original inspection passed is now irrelevant, but the situation changed when Zombie essentially directed the contractor to change the configuration. Whereas it is true that the contractor violated code, the property owner is now aware of it and shares an ethical obligation to inform the buyer regardless of whether there is any legal liability.

And, the legal liability could be there too (although I have zilch knowledge of city, county, or state standards for Chicago.) The seller gave the buyer the right of inspection after the offer was accepted for the sale. The sale was contingent (usually) on the inspection(s) not revealing any untenable condition (barring the sale being in As Is condition). It is clear now that the condition of the furnace flue is now changed post-inspection, and with the knowledge of the seller, so the liability would seem likely.

Zombie, I think you are worried for nothing. If I were you, I would get the contractor back, and this time have a letter from your lawyer in hand. Your letter should detail that you hired him, he performed substandard work, and then returned to correct it by performing an illegal alteration that resulted in an unsafe condition. With no smiles, no happy face, and with a witness present, demand that he immediately make correction to the system at his expense lest you proceed to legal action as well as reporting to the licensing authorities for city, county and state.

The first error was somewhat amusing -- this second is too much. It isn't your problem, but his.

Come Monday I will call the city to have the inspector swing by to look at it again. That said, as it stands now, there is no code violation. I know this because it is exactly how it was before I had the work done and several inspectors cleared it back then. The work was done not for this part of the vent but for the chimney. While at it, I told the contractor to change the whole thing.

I crawled up there and inspected the chney myself. Everything is good. It was just this part that blocked the filter that was the problem :rotflmao:
 
Well, that's good to know.

I'm guessing the inspecting authorities have experience that suggests the 18" vertical run is an ideal, not a necessity, else there would be suffocated inhabitants or houses burnt.

Thanks for sharing your experience. This has been both enlightening and educational.

Congratulations on your sale. I'm supposed to complete the purchase of my home this Friday. Picked out new carpets and flooring yesterday.
 
What is wrong is the configuration of the plenum, the position of the filter interferes with the necessity of the flue running at least 18 inches vertically before any turns are made.
The "fix" made on the flue is wrong, the plenum needs to be reworked. Also all of the joints should be coated with mastic. Metal tape is for the duct work.
 
What is wrong is the configuration of the plenum, the position of the filter interferes with the necessity of the flue running at least 18 inches vertically before any turns are made.
The "fix" made on the flue is wrong, the plenum needs to be reworked. Also all of the joints should be coated with mastic. Metal tape is for the duct work.

Again, each city code is different. As far as I'm concern, as long as they sign off on it, there's no problem.
 
Again, each city code is different. As far as I'm concern, as long as they sign off on it, there's no problem.

The problem is that I would not be able to sleep at night if I thought that people might die from carbon monoxide poisoning. If that were to happen there would be an investigation, all who knew that this set up is wrong might face criminal charges.
 
The problem is that I would not be able to sleep at night if I thought that people might die from carbon monoxide poisoning. If that were to happen there would be an investigation, all who knew that this set up is wrong might face criminal charges.

But the setup is not wrong. This setup has been looked at by 3 different inspection agencies in the last 2 years in addition to cook county inspectors.
 
OK, I just figured out where the source of misunderstanding is.

There is at least 18 inches of vent before the turn there. Why? Because the vent doesn't start from the top of the box that you see. That's just a cover. This was explained to me a while back. That vent started much lower than that top part in the picture.
 
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