Sen. Joe Lieberman will be endorsing John McCain

[Lostlover]

Now. Now. Don't say that. Because that's enough to get you labeled as a "racist" and an "Anti-Semite" by Chance and CnAnPB.

He's the only Democrat defending the Iraq war! He wants our soldiers to die for Israel! Iran is a threat but with Lieberman speaking for the Israelis I wish his state recalls him for working for a foreign government.

Lieberman and McCain are two old bags that like the direction of the Iraq war. McCain is just old and stubborn so he isn't bending on his views, and that's somewhat honorable to hold to your views if you really believe that but when people are dying this suddenly becomes obvious that this isn't a game a chess. You don't just lose and fold up the board and put back the pieces. On the otherhand, Lieberman is reading off the cue cards the Mossad has him reading.

Hearing this joke endorse McCain makes me happy that I didn't vote in the 2004 election.

 

[MystikWizard]

He's the only Democrat defending the Iraq war! He wants our soldiers to die for Israel! Iran is a threat but with Lieberman speaking for the Israelis I wish his state recalls him for working for a foreign government.

Lieberman and McCain are two old bags that like the direction of the Iraq war. McCain is just old and stubborn so he isn't bending on his views, and that's somewhat honorable to hold to your views if you really believe that but when people are dying this suddenly becomes obvious that this isn't a game a chess. You don't just lose and fold up the board and put back the pieces. On the otherhand, Lieberman is reading off the cue cards the Mossad has him reading.

Hearing this joke endorse McCain makes me happy that I didn't vote in the 2004 election.

Oh, I take your side 100%. And you and I both know why he is backing the Iraq War.

And he was the one that proposed the Kyle-Lieberman Amendment to prep Bush to attack Iran, as well. Which Hillary voted for.

The Jewish Lobby and the amount of influence it has on our Foreign Policy needs to be addressed, because it's getting out of hand.

What ever happened to America first?

 

[Homoaffectional]

^ I rather take a legitimate vote a year old from the people than a poll when gaging real public opinion.

Yeah, because you know how well that was working in 2005 to see how many people supported Bush then.

Remember what Karl Rove was saying about you have your polls and I have mine? I guess you like to subscribe to Karl Rove's type of math!

You're lucky senators aren't up for reelection for less than every six years. But luckily, we won't have to wait that long to see how no one of consquence is paying attention to Lieberman's endorsement of McCain... even Connecticut Republicans, which are the only people Lieberman has any "cred" with (a part of my last posting you conveniently chose to ignore). I'll be sure to bump this thread when McCain goes down in flames when the GOP primaries start in about 3 weeks. Then we'll have a new set of legitimate votes to judge just how much "cred" Lieberman has with anyone these days...

 

[jackoroe]

Our military is bogged down in Iraq when it should have been available to deploy in a place like Darfur. Millions of people are undergoing genocide because of Bush and his idiotic vendetta against Sadaam. If Darfur had oil, we'd have been there in a New York minute.

I think we're making progress in Iraq, Smelter. I hope we are, so we can get out of Dodge as quick as we can. As to Darfur, I've not seen the UN get all misty eyed about the situation there. As soon as they get agitated enough to get off the dime, then so will I.

Back on topic. I think you can make the argument that Lieberman is pro-Bush as it relates to Iraq. But the rest of his record, is not exactly right leaning. He's a gun grabbing tax and spend liberal. So, he's kind of hard to pigeon hole.

I do remember him wanting to not count the absentee ballots of our service people over seas, in 2000. I'll not forget him trying to disenfranchise these brave folks. He's just an oddity in the political world as far as I can tell. Although he may be able to sway the indy voters in the North East. It ain't gonna help McCain in any event.

 

[chance1]

^ lots of nasty blowhards saying this/that and the other thing about honorable Joe Lieberman - who has served the people of CT (where Nick has a home that he retreats to) since 1989 - that's 18 years if my math is right

how special

what did he do wrong exactly?

hmmm

well first of all - he is a democrat - sorry nicky - ur wrong
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

and he sits as part of the democratic caucus in the senate

nick - ud be wrong

wikipedia says ..........

Lieberman has been one of the Senate's strongest advocates for continued prosecution of the Iraq War. He is also a consistent supporter of Israel. On domestic issues, he holds liberal views on most economic issues and is a supporter of free trade. Along with Lynne Cheney and others, Lieberman co-founded American Council of Trustees and Alumni (ACTA), an educational association with ties to Campus Watch. Lieberman has also voted with Republicans on some ethical issues, and is one of the Senate's leading opponents of violence in video games and on television. Lieberman describes himself as being "genuinely an Independent," saying "I agree more often than not with Democrats on domestic policy. I agree more often than not with Republicans on foreign and defense policy."[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman

so he's got an open mind

how terrible

shouldn't he be lock step with moveon.org on ALL issues? nah

that would be lame - and not in step with real americans who know the difference between ideological suicide and reasonability

but as Jack correctly maintains, Joe L is pretty liberal - ck out wikipedia for his stance on all social issues - so Nick's depiction of Sen Lieberman is faulty - as usual

Here's (from wikipedia) his stance on gay rights

In 2004, Lieberman scored a rating of 88 out of 100 by the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), one of the largest civil rights organization working to achieve gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender equality."[45]
Lieberman voted no on a constitutional ban of same-sex marriage.[45] In 2003, in response to the Massachusetts ruling that sanctions gay marriage, Lieberman stated, "although I am opposed to gay marriage, I have also long believed that states have the right to adopt for themselves laws that allow same-sex unions," and "I will oppose any attempts by the right wing to change the Constitution in response to today's Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling, which would be unnecessary and divisive."[46]
Lieberman cosponsored the Domestic Partners Benefits and Obligations act of 2003, which provided the same benefits to domestic partners of federal employees as spouses currently have.[45] In 1996, Lieberman cosponsored the Employee Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which would prohibit employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.[47] Lieberman voted in favor of the Early Treatment for HIV Act of 2003, which provided Medicaid treatment for people with HIV.[45] Lieberman has adopted a non-discriminatory policy in employment decisions, which include sexual orientation and gender.[45] Although Lieberman had no experience in military personnel policy, he was among the minority in the Senate in 1993 to vote in support of President Clinton's proposal to let gays and lesbians serve openly in the military.[citation needed] However, he supported the Defense of Marriage Act and "Don't ask, don't tell."
In August, 1994, Jesse Helms (R-NC) and Bob Smith (R-NH) proposed an amendment, S.AMDT.2434, to Elementary and Secondary Education Reauthorization (ESEA) - S.1513 - that would prevent federal funding for schools that "implement or carry out a program or activity that has either the purpose or effect of encouraging or supporting homosexuality as a positive lifestyle." [48][49][50] Lieberman voted for the amendment.[51] He voted for prohibiting HIV-positive immigrants from entering the United States and against a measure to grant domestic-partner benefits to District of Columbia employees.[52][53][54][55]

The guy is simply gold - Jerry - LOL - as for midnight's continued anti-semitic statements like the jewish lobby is getting out of hand - well - i think it speaks for itself

Joe - good job being an independent - too bad more senators/congressmen don't have ur chutzpah

 

[MystikWizard]

Nice job endorsing a liar, Liebermann. John McCain admits to his lies of being able to take strolls through Baghdad without protection in this segment.

What else can McCain do when his entire political career is based on his Pro War stance.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=583_1197919653

 

[Lostlover]

Oh, I take your side 100%. And you and I both know why he is backing the Iraq War.

And he was the one that proposed the Kyle-Lieberman Amendment to prep Bush to attack Iran, as well. Which Hillary voted for.

The Jewish Lobby and the amount of influence it has on our Foreign Policy needs to be addressed, because it's getting out of hand.

What ever happened to America first?

It's just disgusting. Truly.

I know McCain as wrong as he is truly does believe his pro-Iraq war stance is for the better of the country. I am convinced he's convinced this is true.

Lieberman's stances and policies are molded by him asking himself the question "What is best for Israel?" He's gone so far to endorse some 2nd tier candidate of a party doing so badly in polls now just because he is so pro-Israel and biased.

 

[Homoaffectional]

Wow, from the stuff I'm reading being typed from LostLover of all people, you'd think there has been a sea change of political climate and what opinions are now "OK" to express on JUB lately...

 

[Homoaffectional]

You should've seen what Alfie said about him back in April... called him "Likud Lieberman", check: http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156186&highlight=likud+lieberman

I don't need to. I remember the kind of opinions he was expressing earlier and don't blame Alfie for what he said -- usually, whenever I'm tempted to say the kind of things Alfie says (I guess we'll never really find out if the past tense is permanently appropriate)... I take a step back, and vacate the premises for a month or so... because I know the range of opinions allowed on CE&P -- from the sane to the utterly insane (it's when I have to tolerate too many of the latter that I tend to want to get the hell out of dodge for a while). I'm sure he'll make some sort of effort to say what he was saying then and what he's saying now can be coherently considered 'consistent'. I disagree, but the fact that he's flip-flopped in the right direction is interesting, to put it mildly, and actually, almost fascinating to me personally.

 

[chance1]

Nice job endorsing a liar, Liebermann. John McCain admits to his lies of being able to take strolls through Baghdad without protection in this segment.

What else can McCain do when his entire political career is based on his Pro War stance.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=583_1197919653

dude

John McCain has been there and done that - a true hero - and a man respected across both aisles

Ron Paul on the other hand - is a wannabe - hasn't accomplished much of anything - and a year from now will be a tiny footnote

 

[MystikWizard]

dude

John McCain has been there and done that - a true hero - and a man respected across both aisles

Ron Paul on the other hand - is a wannabe - hasn't accomplished much of anything - and a year from now will be a tiny footnote

We will see, Chance.

And as far as McCain, he even admits himself that he misspoke about the war. So, he is essentially lying to the American people to get them to change their views on the War. Sorry.

By the way, how's Rudy's Fundraising going this quarter? He never topped $20 Million has he?

 

[greydog]

Chance 1,
re. your post #36.

You say" what did he do wrong exactly?
You didn't ask what he did right...he did many things wrong
IMO.

(wrong thinks Lieberman does)...........

wikipedia says........
Lieberman has been one of the Senates strongest advocates for continued prosecution of the Iraq war.
He is also a consistent supporter of Israel.
Lieberman describes himself as being "genuinely an Independent and says he agrees more often than not with Republicans on foreign and defense policy.
You say he's got an open mind and is simply gold??
That is simple B.S.
Lieberman is not simply gold....... he is simply simple.

 

[MystikWizard]

Chance 1,
re. your post #36.

You say" what did he do wrong exactly?
You didn't ask what he did right...he did many things wrong
IMO.

(wrong thinks Lieberman does)...........

wikipedia says........
Lieberman has been one of the Senates strongest advocates for continued prosecution of the Iraq war.
He is also a consistent supporter of Israel.
Lieberman describes himself as being "genuinely an Independent and says he agrees more often than not with Republicans on foreign and defense policy.
You say he's got an open mind and is simply gold??
That is simple B.S.
Lieberman is not simply gold....... he is simply simple.

Again, this is a taboo topic with Chance and one or two others. Saying such blasphemy will get you labeled a racist and an Anti-Semite on here.

 

[opinterph]

… Saying such blasphemy will get you labeled a racist and an Anti-Semite on here.

I think you defended yourself quite well against that allegation, Midnight77.

 

[MystikWizard]

I think you defended yourself quite well against that allegation, Midnight77.

I've defended my position many, many times on here with that allegation. I wish Israel the best, but the influence of the Jewish Lobby on American Foreign Policy is something I simply don't advocate. I don't want to be involved in Israel's Holy War against the Muslims. America will be a lot safer as a country not being militarily involved on either side.

And that comment above is absolutely true as it pertains to Chance.

I don't know how much more clear I can make it.

 

[chance1]

I've defended my position many, many times on here with that allegation. I wish Israel the best, but the influence of the Jewish Lobby on American Foreign Policy is something I simply don't advocate. I don't want to be involved in Israel's Holy War against the Muslims. America will be a lot safer as a country not being militarily involved on either side.

And that comment above is absolutely true as it pertains to Chance.

I don't know how much more clear I can make it.

Other than opinterph's jump in, i don't see many JUBBERs rushing to ur defense - which is curious given ur anti republican establishment nature

Your comments r what they r

not gonna list them all AGAIN - I do each time

u r what u say/do

and u r no exception

as for "being clear" not to worry - clear as day

and looking into Ron Paul's past I see many similarities in his views

which is interesting and worth pursuing

and as they say (I'm paraphrasing) midnight - me think doth potest too much

back to Lieberman

wanting to win in Iraq is not a negative

voting Republican on economic issues is not a negative

it is a POV

one u may not agree with

but it is not defacto a negative

except in the wonderful land of JUB

which is upside down and bizarro

 

[smelter]

except in the wonderful land of JUB

which is upside down and bizarro

JUBland is fine, its Bushland that is bizarro. To deny that speaks volumes about your follow-the-leader mentality.

.... Oh and btw, I'm not a racist either and I believe Lieberman's allegiance to Israel has done a disservice to this country. So put those road apples in the upside-down, name-calling pie you're trying to bake here, bucko!

 

[chance1]

JUBland is fine, its Bushland that is bizarro. To deny that speaks volumes about your follow-the-leader mentality.

.... Oh and btw, I'm not a racist either and I believe Lieberman's allegiance to Israel has done a disservice to this country. So put those road apples in the upside-down, name-calling pie you're trying to bake here, bucko!

no one says u gotta love lieberman

is hating jews and israel racist btw? not sure

joe is pro israel as are many politicians - dems and repubs - cuz they're a great ally

bucko?

u win one freakin game vs. dallas and ur pulling out bucko?

yeesh

gotta fix my shoe

 

[Kulindahr]

Gee, a guy who can't stand the Second Amendment and isn't fond of the First endorsing a guy who doesn't give a rip about the Second Amendment and would happily throw away the First...

no surprise.

Neither one understands what America is about.

 

[chance1]

Gee, a guy who can't stand the Second Amendment and isn't fond of the First endorsing a guy who doesn't give a rip about the Second Amendment and would happily throw away the First...

no surprise.

Neither one understands what America is about.

I'm pretty sure I just got insulted

did I??

and could u explain it so that even dumb old me can understand?