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Seriously, George Santos deserves his own thread

gsdx said:
I'm sure there are millions of tenants in the Constitution and the Trumps have been busy for decades collecting the rent.
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Now I have to wonder if he used "basic" in the standard definition, or with the ghetto inflection.
 
rareboy said:
We all remember this moment.
Funny how your white power friends aren't there to save you.

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How'd you get Dominus to loan you his red internet marker?
 
rareboy said:
Amy Klobuchar:

George Santos has been expelled. If they can do this to a college volleyball star, world famous Brazilian journalist, successful NYC financier and noted producer of the Spider Man musical, what hope is there for we mere mortals?
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NotHardUp1 said:
I'm going to give her this one due to the excitement of the moment and perhaps the exterminator fumes lingering about.
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The sentence, as originally written is acceptable, even if a bit awkward grammatically. :)

If they can do this to a college volleyball star, world famous Brazilian journalist, successful NYC financier and noted producer of the Spider Man musical, what hope is there for we [,who are] mere mortals?
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The quote was a tweet, so it may have been written by a staffer.

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And now, a little bit about Mr Kitara:

I have to admit that I'm a bit sad that the husband turns out to be a Brazilian pocket gay. I was hoping that the husband was Vish Burra, the omnipresent butch top-daddy staffer that acted as Santos' bodyguard and body-blocker when Kitara ventured into the halls of Congress.

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KaraBulut said:
The sentence, as originally written is acceptable, even if a bit awkward grammatically. :)
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"Awkward" isn't the term for out and out errors, only badly constructed syntax.

Not really clear what "acceptable" has to do with grammar. She may well be received by presidents, heads of state, and power brokers, just as Donald Trump was, covfefe notwithstanding.

But, there is nothing marginal or correct about it as grammar. It's simply wrong. "We" is not ever the objective form of the pronoun. "For us" is the only acceptable form unless there is some phrase or clause following that would change the pronoun to agreement within that phrase or clause. What follows it is "mere mortals," a noun appositive, not any phrase or clause.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
....But, there is nothing marginal or correct about it as grammar. It's simply wrong. "We" is not ever the objective form of the pronoun. "For us" is the only acceptable form unless there is some phrase or clause following that would change the pronoun to agreement within that phrase or clause. What follows it is "mere mortals," a noun appositive, not any phrase or clause.
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"Mere mortals" is an appositive but the question is whether "for" is being used as a preposition or whether it is being used as a conjunction.

In the end, what matters is whether the sentence is clear enough for everyone to get the joke.

Undoubtably, former Representative Santos had a stint as a grammarian while he was at Baruch College, so perhaps we could ask him since he now has open time on his calendar for academic questions?

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KaraBulut said:
"Mere mortals" is an appositive but the question is whether "for" is being used as a preposition or whether it is being used as a conjunction.

In the end, what matters is whether the sentence is clear enough for everyone to get the joke.
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The correctness of grammar is not the reductionist measure of "can it be understood despite the error?"

There is no question that the pronoun is the object of the preposition, and there is no question of conjunction, as there is no ability to substitute "because" in its place, as that is the meaning of "for" when used as a conjunction.

But grammar is not what you are evaluating, only the grammarian, so explaining the actual grammar is only for the benefit of the unknowing, not the absolving.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
The correctness of grammar is not the reductionist measure of "can it be understood despite the error?"

There is no question that the pronoun is the object of the preposition, and there is no question of conjunction, as there is no ability to substitute "because" in its place, as that is the meaning of "for" when used as a conjunction.

But grammar is not what you are evaluating, only the grammarian, so explaining the actual grammar is only for the benefit of the unknowing, not the absolving.
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Words and how we use them are constantly evolving and always have been, today's "rules" are tomorrow's anachronisms. Nothing in language has ever been static, so ultimately the test of language is precisely how understandable it is.

For example, I have no fucking idea what that last sentence means in the slightest little bit, and thus the entire post is rendered moot no matter which "rules" you claim are paramount.

Language is a code for passing information, that is its entire purpose. If people have no idea what you are saying, your grammar is meaningless.
 
KaraBulut said:
Undoubtably, former Representative Santos had a stint as a grammarian while he was at Baruch College, so perhaps we could ask him since he now has open time on his calendar for academic questions?
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Kitara spent all that time inventing Esperanto she didn't even have the time to write any more sonnets for Bill.
 
^ That must have happened before writing the Magna Carta during his march to the South Pole.
 
gsdx said:
^ That must have happened before writing the Magna Carta during his march to the South Pole.
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Silly me, I forget, was the South Pole before or after the Moon landing?
 
^ After, but before he orbited Venus 13 times. By the way, it's been said that he had brunch with the Man on the Moon when he was there.
 
Cartoonists and comedians across America are mourning Santos' departure... at least in this Act.

 
Yes...from here on he just becomes a guy waiting for trial and then conviction...a footnote.
 
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