Just ask yourself if Canada's health system is as good as Moore makes it out to be, and you'll have your answer.
His "documentary" is pure bullshit.
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His "documentary" is pure bullshit.
the canadian health system is just amazing
never have to worry to go to the doctor because yea you don't have to pay
never worry if you go to the ER and oh you don't pay anything
yea it has it's problems and flaws
but it saved my life and countless others.
kudos to St. Mikes Hospital aka The Urban Angel
the bestest hospital on the plantet
never have to worry to go to the doctor because yea you don't have to pay
never worry if you go to the ER and oh you don't pay anything
yea it has it's problems and flaws
but it saved my life and countless others.
kudos to St. Mikes Hospital aka The Urban Angel
the bestest hospital on the plantet
Physician shortages leave millions of Canadians without a doctor, wait times that force some people to leave the country for specialized surgery or sit in pain for weeks until their turn, what a perfect system!
It's good here, but not great, and definitely not the perfect setup Moore tries to paint for his viewers. Take what you saw with a grain of salt.
honestly never had a problem in ontario.
i can get an MRI in a week.
or whatever i need so fast.
is it alberta that's messing things up for you.
I wouldn't think so. He lives in Saskatchewan.
Not a problem.
doctorsun
I'm not really a doctor.
It's as bad as Michael Moore makes it out to be. I just saw the movie and I was very deeply affected by it. It's an amazingly important movie for all Americans to see. The way we treat our citizens is disgusting. It's fucking shameful that we are the richest, most powerful country in the world and we treat our middle class like shit.
If I had the resources, I would move to Canada because I'm fucking sick and tired of this country's corruption and greed and shameless disregard for its citizens.
If I had the resources, I would move to Canada because I'm fucking sick and tired of this country's corruption and greed and shameless disregard for its citizens.
but do you have to call your HMO before you go to the doctor?
doctorsun
I'm not really a doctor.
I don't have an HMO, but those who do have them do have to call to get authorization to go to the doctor unless they go to one that's within the pre-approved network of GPs. Anything else, such as having to see a specialist requires a referral and authorization.
so in the middle of the night and you feel really sick
they have to call an HMO.
and they decide your care?
what's happens if you call 911.... do they bill you?l
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Its not that big of a deal. Why would you want to go to a GP other than your own? If you need a referral, you either call your doctor's office or go in and see him first. A lot of times he takes care of the problem and you don't have to see the specialist.
Also, a lot of specialists don't require preauthorization, such as Podiatry, OB/GYN, Pediatrics, and sometimes Ortho, Cardiology, and Dermatology.
I could understand the exasperation if YOU had to do the work but its your doctor's office that has to do the extra legwork. ER visits are always covered in these plans as long as they are emergencies, so you should have no fear of calling 911.
doctorsun
I'm not really a doctor.
Until you get the bill for the ambulence ride, the prescriptions for any medications you need, and any services you received in the hospital that your insurance provider decided were unnecessary.
Believe me, I've been through the system. Michael Moore didn't exaggerate anything.
doctorsun
I'm not really a doctor.
Amen. Really, this movie made me ashamed to be an American. For all of the problems this country has developed, most can be blamed on the current administration and I have kept the attitude of "I love my country, but I the president." But seeing this, knowing what I already experienced in my own life...it's just made me ashamed. This problem is a decades-old issue that's grown and grown and grown until it's just completely out of control now. The US will never see decent healt care.
Is it not possible? Here in Canada, each province has its own health care system which, I believe, is federally funded as well. In Ontario, it is OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) and is mostly paid for by premiums paid into it. It's the same as regular insurance, I suppose, except that it's province-wide and covers everybody. Surely something like that could happen in the United States. I'm sure the citizens wouldn't mind paying premiums if they get the coverage.
doctorsun
I'm not really a doctor.
The problem with that is that it never gets to be voted on by the people. Congress is so deep into the drug and insurance companies' pockets that they'll pass ANY bill that supports their profits, not the well-being of the people.
^^ Oh, dear. I didn't know that.
doctorsun
I'm not really a doctor.
^The system is shamelessly corrupt and they don't even try to hide it.
It appears they've got you by the proverbial balls.
doctorsun
I'm not really a doctor.
^Precisely. Everyone has to go to the hospital at some point...