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so i went to the therapist yesterday-what ya think of this though?

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>>>and another thing too is that he said that he wasn't going to be able to walk with the sexuality thing too. that's cool because i'm going to support groups and stuff for that.

Not sure how to read this. Does this mean "I don't specialize in specifically helping people come to grips with alternate sexualities"? Because that's fine, as it doesn't appear to be where your main issues lay, anyhow. But if it means "I can't help you with anything gay-related", then there might be some issues there. MIGHT, not definitely will be.

Lex

he meant it like that. he chose to stay out of it since he said it couldn't help me with it. that's messed up because the only therapist i know that is lgbt related unfortunately doesn't take my insurance, i think. :cry: :mad: i might try to call them again.

Therapists are just like teachers and doctors and other "people" that work out there. There are good ones and bad ones. You have to find one of the good ones that will help YOU and LISTEN to you. I am not saying this particular therapist is good or bad BUT keep in mind not every therapist is good just because they have a license to practice. Give it some time with this person and see what happens. Good Luck and Take Care.

well..... it looks like my cheap health insurance isn't covered by them. i think i might cancel out on them since it's pretty much pointless going knowing that we're only going to have two sessions before i'm stuck again. thinking about calling them back and cancelling out on them.

what's wrong with cigna insurance? it's crazy how i've called around for all these therapists that is listed under my health provider and my insurance doesn't cover them. at least in the state of new jersey.

hell... i've had one therapist which i coulda had some luck with but i told her about the suicidal ideations and she just backed off from me saying i need to see someone every week.
 
Seems to me that this guy might not be the right fit. Maybe you should check out another therapist and see how things work. Like others have said, some therapists are better than others. You might have to weed through one or three before you find the right fit.

I hope things really do work out for you though. I'm in your corner, man!
 
Your father sounds like mine, in that he is/has always been more interested in talking about himself. I decided awhile back to pick and choose discussion topics with my father based on things we have in common. He is who he is. I have friends and more supportive family with whom to discuss sexuality openly and freely. I am more fully socially happier with them.

Regarding therapists, I have been fortunate in the few that I have chosen. They were distinctly process oriented people but weren't timid in meeting issues when they needed to be met. The first one (long ago) was helpful when I was having a rough time with my life generally. The second one (years ago) helped with grief. The third one (met with him just once) when I needed clarification on a very personal issue.

It's difficult for me to say what you should do, per se. I guess that if you stay with this therapist, figure out what exactly he can help you accomplish. Maybe he has better skills in certain areas. Nobody's perfect. If you go to a new one, I would try to seek out a gay-friendly professional, if that is a concern of yours.
 
Seems to me that this guy might not be the right fit. Maybe you should check out another therapist and see how things work. Like others have said, some therapists are better than others. You might have to weed through one or three before you find the right fit.

I hope things really do work out for you though. I'm in your corner, man!

yeah, you know what i'm beginning to realize that the saying "nobody is interested in listening to your problems so keep them to yourself" is very true especially going to therapist. it's their job to basically understand you and 9/10 or at least the ones that i go to completely misunderstand me. instead of figuring you out, running some tests or whatever, they basically just listen to the words what come out your mouth, tell you what they think of it, and are ready to prescribe you pills without being ready to tell you shit.

one thing i'll give him that struck me was that it may seem like i have a possible emotional issue which possibly might be bipolar disorder. he said that those issues about me feeling moody might be something else which i can control or what i'm thinking about which indeed is the case. i have a lot of things on my mind and honestly, when i say it, i don't think people get the message.

Find someone else. Therapy is about insight, not accusation. I'm a great believer in therapy for just that reason, and I know from experience that if you don't feel safe in that first session, get someone else.

Regardless of what your 'issues' are, there are plenty of red flags already. No credible therapist would lay down 'daddy issues' as a description of a patient's problem with their father.

If you're not exaggerating or paraphrasing in any way, I stick by my first impression. Every time I tried to give a therapist the benefit of the doubt, I was wrong.

Insight, not accusation; it won't be comfortable, but you should physically and mentally be in a place of trust and safety.

yeah, that's another thing too. the whole daddy issues thing really hit a sour note with me because like what you said, it was like him accusing me of something and that something is not my fault. a couple of people in here after schooling me made me realize that spewing what i talked to my therapist about wasn't a good idea but on the flip side, i felt in a sense that he rubbed me the wrong way with certain things he said. i just wanted to know if it was just me not responding well to criticism or if it was really him going out of bounce.

i don't see what he could do to change my situation with my father anyway. my father is who he is. people have tried to kiss his ass, treat him nice, help him out or whatever but he's the type of guy that does whatever HE wants to do regardless. he's unappreciative of shit. he feels that he's entitled to everything that he has without even lifting a finger to work for it. it's like he views himself as a king and everyone else being underneath him. when he acts nice, it's hard to tell if he's geniunely being nice or if he's doing it with a motive so you can't take his word for what it is.

with that said, i've witnessed what he's done to my mother, to people around him and etc. he's not in it for anybody besides himself and always has been. he's my father, i am his son but it hasn't been a relationship where he respects me. it's been more so of him telling me how to live my life, being controlling and him showing bits of love when he wants to show it. in other words, he wants to be a father when it suits him.

Your father sounds like mine, in that he is/has always been more interested in talking about himself. I decided awhile back to pick and choose discussion topics with my father based on things we have in common. He is who he is. I have friends and more supportive family with whom to discuss sexuality openly and freely. I am more fully socially happier with them.

Regarding therapists, I have been fortunate in the few that I have chosen. They were distinctly process oriented people but weren't timid in meeting issues when they needed to be met. The first one (long ago) was helpful when I was having a rough time with my life generally. The second one (years ago) helped with grief. The third one (met with him just once) when I needed clarification on a very personal issue.

It's difficult for me to say what you should do, per se. I guess that if you stay with this therapist, figure out what exactly he can help you accomplish. Maybe he has better skills in certain areas. Nobody's perfect. If you go to a new one, I would try to seek out a gay-friendly professional, if that is a concern of yours.

yeah, a gay friendly professional would be nice. that reminds me... i have this lgbt book underneath my bed and there's some lgbt related therapists in there. you know something though. i feel that a therapist is a good listener and it seems like there's not too many therapist that listen.

hell, as crazy as it sounds, i'm thinking that a therapist would at least pull teeth just to get everything. you know.... it's funny because i noticed with some of these therapist, i'm opening myself to them thinking that they'll be a friend to me and help but their approach makes me close myself off to them.

like if i tell a doctor that i'm mad with so and so or this person is looking at me wrong. i expect them to listen to me, hear why i'm upset, try to figure out what i'm really saying and then redress what i say in a different light. like maybe they were looking at you wrong because they didn't like you? maybe you were looking at them funny? how do you act around others? you know, stuff like that. saying that i should be more confident in regards to me being paranoid about so and so looking at me wrong. that isn't really helping me. i should have asked him, how do i become more confident to avoid a situation where someone is looking at me like they want to kill me or acting suspicious like they're going to snatch me up or something.

Go to someone else. My therapist would never say such a thing, especially on the first session.

The way my therapist origonallybdescribed our relationship, was as follows: that I would talk about things and that he would ask me the questions that would lead ME to discovering the origins to most of my problems. Yes, he offers input and advice, but boldly proclaiming "Daddy Issues" (as if he got his license by watching a full season of How I Met Your Mother) on the first session is ridiculous.

Some of the stories I hear from other folks and their therapist make me both appreciative and fearful of ever having to get another in the event of something happening to him or me moving.

you have a good therapist. :p it's funny how a lot of the ones that i've been to don't even ask questions. they just tell me what they think instead of trying to figure it out.
 
Ditch the bitch. It's clear you're not going to make any progress with him.

Lex
 
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yeah, a gay friendly professional would be nice. that reminds me... i have this lgbt book underneath my bed and there's some lgbt related therapists in there. you know something though. i feel that a therapist is a good listener and it seems like there's not too many therapist that listen.
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That would probably be the best bet.

A good therapist should be a good active listener and be able to develop a bit of a rapport with you while you blow your mental load. While talking to you is important, I've always thought it was best to give subtle conversation hints to keep you talking to the therapist, hopefully with them highlighting something that you said but have never completely realized in the past.
 
Any therapist you find will poke the issue that is causing you mental distress. that will by definition be uncomfortable. WHy do you think you are having issues dealing with it on your own in the first place.

You kept hitting on the Daddy issue thing as if the therapist was blaming you. Did he say it was your fault or do you simply assume the blame? If you are assuming the blame then it is you choosing to make that your issue with the therapist when who you should be pissed at is your Father if he was distant and yet controlling.

Therapist who only tell you things you like are called friends. You don't pay them. the guy you pay? He will piss you off. A lot.
 
Agreed. A therapist isn't supposed to piss you off. A therapist CAN piss you off, or make you uncomfortable, or make you cry. Or, more accurately, can help lead yourself to places where all that stuff can happen. But plenty of people can be helped to confront their demons without massive emotional meltdowns of whatever stripe.

I can't tell if this therapist is a "good" one or "bad" one in a generic sense. I simply get the feeling that the OP isn't clicking with this one. You should feel able to open up completely to your therapist, and not questions his or her motives. And the OP doesn't sound like he's there, or even like he'll get there easily, with this one. In that case, it doesn't matter if the therapist is (generically) good or bad - the therapist is bad for the OP. And so the OP should probably find another one.

Lex
 
I once had a session with a therapist who rubbed me the wrong way all during the session. I changed therapist immediately and I don't regret it.
It's paramount that you trust and feel at ease, confident with your therapist, that you click and think he/she can understand you.
So, for me, don't have any qualms in changing. :)

PS : and Lex beats me to it by 3 minutes. Again :)
 
it's their job to basically understand you and 9/10 or at least the ones that i go to completely misunderstand me. instead of figuring you out, running some tests or whatever, they basically just listen to the words what come out your mouth, tell you what they think of it, and are ready to prescribe you pills without being ready to tell you shit.

Yeah. They should be able to hook you up to a computer, press a couple buttons, and give you a printout of exactly what is wrong with you...

You don't get it. You're not ready.
 
>>>And the OP doesn't sound like he's there, or even like he'll get there easily, with this one.

it's their job to basically understand you and 9/10 or at least the ones that i go to completely misunderstand me.

Or any of the next 8...
 
Ditch the bitch. It's clear you're not going to make any progress with him.

Lex

the good news is that since my insurance doesn't cover him. i have three free session with him. being that this is the second session, i'm not even going to show up a third time. :D
 
^ Bullshit. Total bullshit.

Agreed. A therapist isn't supposed to piss you off. A therapist CAN piss you off, or make you uncomfortable, or make you cry. Or, more accurately, can help lead yourself to places where all that stuff can happen. But plenty of people can be helped to confront their demons without massive emotional meltdowns of whatever stripe.

I can't tell if this therapist is a "good" one or "bad" one in a generic sense. I simply get the feeling that the OP isn't clicking with this one. You should feel able to open up completely to your therapist, and not questions his or her motives. And the OP doesn't sound like he's there, or even like he'll get there easily, with this one. In that case, it doesn't matter if the therapist is (generically) good or bad - the therapist is bad for the OP. And so the OP should probably find another one.

Lex

I once had a session with a therapist who rubbed me the wrong way all during the session. I changed therapist immediately and I don't regret it.
It's paramount that you trust and feel at ease, confident with your therapist, that you click and think he/she can understand you.
So, for me, don't have any qualms in changing. :)

PS : and Lex beats me to it by 3 minutes. Again :)

So wait. You all have been to therapist and it was all hunky dory? They never really broached anything bad?

Please. He felt at ease with this person or he wouldn't have opened up in the first place. Not liking the answer sounds more like the case than being comfortable with the person.

However do as they suggest above and move on to another therapist.

The question has already been ask but what do you do when you get the same diagnosis?
 
So wait. You all have been to therapist and it was all hunky dory? They never really broached anything bad?

Please. He felt at ease with this person or he wouldn't have opened up in the first place. Not liking the answer sounds more like the case than being comfortable with the person.

However do as they suggest above and move on to another therapist.

The question has already been ask but what do you do when you get the same diagnosis?

no, actually. i've opened myself up to all of the therapists that i've been to and anybody that's willing to listen believe it or not.

one thing i'll admit though between 2007-2010, i don't think i was ready to see a therapist because there were some things i was holding back from them such as possibly being gay. you know, i didn't give them the whole entire story of the issues that i had. i felt that if i told such and such that i was gay that i would be running away from the issues that i presented in the first place so i kept that to myself. i also wasn't ready to tell anybody about that. i was in denial and scared out of my mind with that. so now that i've come in full circle, i'm ready to talk about everything. i just wish that at that moment back in 2009 when i had the chance to tell my therapist that i might be gay that i would have said so. she seemed to be one of the people that was willing to listen although she was really pushing me to take medication for whatever reason. i was never diagnosed with a mental problem so i didn't see the reason why she was pushing me to take prozac or zoloft. i feel that coming out to her would have been able to make sense out of the whole anxiety, emotional turmoil and shit i was going through. i guess things are sort of better now but back then.. [-X it would have been like okay, you're upset that you might be gay. so you still feel this way about your life and being angry and such. i think she would have made more sense out of everything. i don't think this therapist is able to put two and two together like that. if he can't deal with me on a certain issue that is close to my heart or might be a underlying cause to why i feel a certain way, what good is his help to do with me? you know, with being gay and all, i go to coming out groups and lgbt gatherings but there's times when i actually want to tell so and so at the moment that i hate being closeted where i'm basically living a lie around my loved ones. i talk about it on the web which is one way of going about it but then i have to deal with offline too. i do not feel comfortable with the whole idea of coming out and being openly gay. hell.... the person i am now is basically is a result of me being closeted for so many years where i've felt the need to have a super masculine image to conceal who i really am.

but with the same diagnosis. to be real with you, i've been to some therapist and they said i had such and such. i've been to others and they say that i have nothing wrong with me. it's that they think that i think there's something wrong with me and i'm looking for an excuse to not deal with my problems. i've been to like 8 therapists and they've all not different opinions with some of the opinions overlapping each other.

but one thing that they all might agree with is that i'm actually scared to feel better and i might actually enjoy the misery that i'm experiencing in which they do have a point. i'm kind of scared to feel better for some reason. i don't know.
 
"the guy you pay? He will piss you off. A lot."

"A therapist CAN piss you off, or make you uncomfortable, or make you cry. Or, more accurately, can help lead yourself to places where all that stuff can happen. But plenty of people can be helped to confront their demons without massive emotional meltdowns of whatever stripe."

"So wait. You all have been to therapist and it was all hunky dory? They never really broached anything bad?"

...I don't even think this qualifies as a conversation anymore.

Lex
 
Whatever G Lex. I have had multiple experiences both good and bad with Therapist and to discount that what a therapist says will make you angry seems pretty shallow.
 
no, actually. i've opened myself up to all of the therapists that i've been to and anybody that's willing to listen believe it or not.

one thing i'll admit though between 2007-2010, i don't think i was ready to see a therapist because there were some things i was holding back from them such as possibly being gay. you know, i didn't give them the whole entire story of the issues that i had. i felt that if i told such and such that i was gay that i would be running away from the issues that i presented in the first place so i kept that to myself. i also wasn't ready to tell anybody about that. i was in denial and scared out of my mind with that. so now that i've come in full circle, i'm ready to talk about everything. i just wish that at that moment back in 2009 when i had the chance to tell my therapist that i might be gay that i would have said so. she seemed to be one of the people that was willing to listen although she was really pushing me to take medication for whatever reason. i was never diagnosed with a mental problem so i didn't see the reason why she was pushing me to take prozac or zoloft. i feel that coming out to her would have been able to make sense out of the whole anxiety, emotional turmoil and shit i was going through. i guess things are sort of better now but back then.. [-X it would have been like okay, you're upset that you might be gay. so you still feel this way about your life and being angry and such. i think she would have made more sense out of everything. i don't think this therapist is able to put two and two together like that. if he can't deal with me on a certain issue that is close to my heart or might be a underlying cause to why i feel a certain way, what good is his help to do with me? you know, with being gay and all, i go to coming out groups and lgbt gatherings but there's times when i actually want to tell so and so at the moment that i hate being closeted where i'm basically living a lie around my loved ones. i talk about it on the web which is one way of going about it but then i have to deal with offline too. i do not feel comfortable with the whole idea of coming out and being openly gay. hell.... the person i am now is basically is a result of me being closeted for so many years where i've felt the need to have a super masculine image to conceal who i really am.

but with the same diagnosis. to be real with you, i've been to some therapist and they said i had such and such. i've been to others and they say that i have nothing wrong with me. it's that they think that i think there's something wrong with me and i'm looking for an excuse to not deal with my problems. i've been to like 8 therapists and they've all not different opinions with some of the opinions overlapping each other.

but one thing that they all might agree with is that i'm actually scared to feel better and i might actually enjoy the misery that i'm experiencing in which they do have a point. i'm kind of scared to feel better for some reason. i don't know.

Sometimes it is very comfortable to stick with what you know. Even if it is pain.

I had no idea you had such difficulty with sexuality with yourself. Perhaps what people have suggested, to see a GLBT therapist will help. You still have to connect with that therapist. I still think by the angry way you post around here over non-consequential issues that you will react with anger to some of the issues that are eating at you. They obviously have an effect on your life and how you perceive you. Plus you have already stated you are hyper-masculine so as to cover up how you feel. I grew up in very much that same hyper masculine environment and what bothers you you must ignore and push aside. That is what I was taught. That was wrong.

Well if you have been to that many folks you will eventually find the right person to begin to heal. However don't be surprised if you don't get angry a few more times.
 
So wait. You all have been to therapist and it was all hunky dory? They never really broached anything bad?

In fact, yes. She is very intelligent and sensitive and know how to ask questions that make me think or do associations that make me progress and realize things I hadn't in the past.

It's not them who have to broached anything bad, but yourself, they're guiding you, but it's your own path. They should even not considered things as bad or good, but only what the patient think or feel is bad or good, and why. In my non professional opinion of course :)
 
Perhaps some things that you (the OP) might communicate upfront to the next therapist is that you have trust issues, you tend to anger easily, you prefer help to explore issues and to arrive at resolutions, you are new(ish) at accepting your sexuality, and .... im sure that there are other things that you will come up with yourself.

good luck.
 
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