Someone please explain children out of wedlock and single parent homes...

[sixthson]

Wearing hand-me-downs is disturbing? Seriously?

EVERY kid in my neighborhood wore hand-me-downs when I was growing up. We even swapped hand-me-downs among families. It's economically sound and environmentally friendly. And just for the record, I grew up in a working-class neighborhood where all of the kids had two parents who were married. My dad worked two jobs, and my mother was a stay-at-home mom who ran a day care to help support us.

Your elitism and class prejudice are becoming more and more evident with every post you make.

Please don't buy into his superiority act. The more he posts, the more he proves that he is inferior. He is damning himself with his own words.

 

[DigitalFudge]

@ Everyone in this thread

Everyone knows that kids being raised in single parent homes face harsher struggles.


Those struggles manifest in ways for some, and they differ in others.


Why is this so shocking? Why is this so new?

Does it apply to everyone? Hell no. Does it apply to a lot of people? Hell Yes.

Picking apart the OP like this is some kind of "Bisexual iz kool plz, gay keel yo self" thread is sad.


Sometimes people need to vent.

 

[Lostlover]

Can I keep Wow'ing or what? You're a piece of work.

So another post where you don't talk about unwed mothers?

Also, do you think it's a coincidence that 80 something percent of inmates were born to unwed mothers?

 

[Lostlover]

Wearing hand-me-downs is disturbing? Seriously?

EVERY kid in my neighborhood wore hand-me-downs when I was growing up. We even swapped hand-me-downs among families. It's economically sound and environmentally friendly. And just for the record, I grew up in a working-class neighborhood where all of the kids had two parents who were married. My dad worked two jobs, and my mother was a stay-at-home mom who ran a day care to help support us.

Your elitism and class prejudice are becoming more and more evident with every post you make.

Didn't say that. I said it's disturbing she thinks it's cute they're wearing hand-me-downs especially considering she doesn't work and has six children.

I guess too my American Government teacher is elitist too. Him and his teacher wife. What's telling is even at 17 and 18 I could completely understand my teacher's disgust.

 

[Lostlover]

So fucking true. Not much attention towards the parents wrecking society. But a lot of criticism for someone who is left to pick up the pieces.

I don't have to work at the local school district. I could work right now at a large law firm down town where I wouldn't feel nearly as pleased with my work as I do now. I could very well resign and not look back.

@ Everyone in this thread

Everyone knows that kids being raised in single parent homes face harsher struggles.


Those struggles manifest in ways for some, and they differ in others.


Why is this so shocking? Why is this so new?

Does it apply to everyone? Hell no. Does it apply to a lot of people? Hell Yes.

Picking apart the OP like this is some kind of "Bisexual iz kool plz, gay keel yo self" thread is sad.


Sometimes people need to vent.

 

[Lostlover]

I'm not talking about it because you're not here to actual discuss anything that doesn't consider your view point correct. It's all based on just your experience and pretty ignorant view.

Don't think my Mother was Married when she had me, but you don't see me going around committing crimes. Even if that statistic is true, I don't see it being a factor on why these people are criminals.

My "ignorant view" is based on what I've personally seen. I can't really control who I come into contact with. I also never said all born to unwed mothers do this and that. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[Lostlover]

Also, it's amazing how many times you have pat yourself on the back in this thread.

Well people keep saying that I'm not a right fit for the job. I believe I am and so do the office managers that call me on weekends like this one asking me to come in. Some even offer gas money. And it's not like I have to have this job. I have opportunities. That's not boasting, that's just being truthful.

 

[LilBit]

Didn't say that. I said it's disturbing she thinks it's cute they're wearing hand-me-downs especially considering she doesn't work and has six children.

I guess too my American Government teacher is elitist too. Him and his teacher wife. What's telling is even at 17 and 18 I could completely understand my teacher's disgust.

I thought it was cute when my baby brother wore my old favorite clothes. It was kind of like looking eight years into the past. There's nothing wrong with that.

And stop trying to deflect my comments onto other people. I'm not talking about your teacher; I'm responding to YOUR comments, not his.

 

[Lostlover]

Please don't buy into his superiority act. The more he posts, the more he proves that he is inferior. He is damning himself with his own words.

You're saying I'm putting on an superiority act and you call me inferior, just for having a different opinion from you.

Pot meet kettle.

 

[Lostlover]

It's one thing to only experience/come into the type of people, it's another to not acknowledge and consider other peoples experiences.



This is what you said when you started the thread. I would think criminals would fall under being the 'worst'. I'm not putting words in your mouth, every time you get called out on something you back pedal.

I haven't taken anything back that I've said. When you're 100% correct, there's nothing to retract.

Again, I didn't say all.

 

[Esquire0399]

When you're 100% correct, there's nothing to retract.

Since when can a person's opinion be 100% correct? That completely defies the definition of an opinion. Seriously, do you really not understand how that DOES NOT MAKE SENSE? I'll point you back to loki's post about anecdotal evidence for clarification on what you are using and stating as fact. Good lord, what the hell do they have you teaching?

 

[Lostlover]

Since when can a person's opinion be 100% correct? That completely defies the definition of an opinion. Seriously, do you really not understand how that DOES NOT MAKE SENSE? I'll point you back to loki's post about anecdotal evidence for clarification on what you are using and stating as fact. Good lord, what the hell do they have you teaching?

So you must think I can't post statistics from Google? You and I both know the statistics are ugly. I'm just not about to post them and they exist all over the web. It'd take a couple of seconds to post numbers about the horror of popping kids out of wedlock. So, maybe I'm not posting them for a reason?

As I've said before, I'm here to share terrifying experiences with unwed parents.

 

[jdcnow]

Your story is not uncommon. That's the problem. Letting men off from their responsibilities plays right into their hands and encourages this behavior. I like your mother. She should come give a talk at my school. Being pregnant and popping out kids like mommy, is shooting for the stars to a lot of teenage girls where I work at.

Mormons actually encourage this too. I run at the gym with a mormon lady every now and then. And she doesn't work and her husband is a mid-level architect. They have 6 kids. So, they're raising these kids on a shoestring budget. And she thinks it's cute that her kids are wearing hand-me-downs from their older siblings. That's not cute. That's disturbing.

Of course, I don't say anything to her or any of the people having kids out of wedlock. But they just fell a couple of notches in the respect I have for them.

Wow. So it's not good for a child to wear very good conditioned old clothes that were hand-me-downs from an older sibling. The parents should by default shell out money for the newest clothes instead of using the perfectly good resources at hand. And you actually lose respect for people who do this. Yikes.

While LostLover incorrectly puts forth that single parents are some how 'less than', let me tell you about one of the best parents I ever met period was one guy, a once-single dad I used to work with at a previous job, who is not much older than I am (early 30s).

He will be the first to tell you that his first choice in women was not his finest hour. But his 3 daughters that resulted from that choice are his heart, and he doesn't need to say that in order to show it. In fact, his youngest daughter (age 4), you will never see him without her sitting on top of his shoulders as they hold hands and sing in unison, "Here we go, down Lollipop Lane". He knows everything there is to know about Barbie. He loves his kids deeply, and it shows. Not only is he a great dad (I wish he were my dad growing up), but he's a real man who takes care of his kids, day in and day out.

He has since fought for and won permenant custody of his 3 daughters and had remarried (a good woman, this time, who has sons of her own). The last I've heard, this Brady Bunch are all living happily ever after.

To put forth the thought - either explicit or implied, intentionally or inadvertantly - that single parents just aren't somehow good enough is downright asinine. It shocks me that a teacher put in charge over children actually thinks this way.

Everyone has a story. And in every story the person is a parent of the year candidate that defies the odds. And the child turns out to be a Rhodes Scholar. Is this the Lifetime Movie Series?

Damn, this guy you know shames my dad. Your friend has bad luck in women but he loves his daughters. I guess in Northern Texas that makes up for going from woman to woman with three little girls of your own to take care of. (Let me guess too that they all have different mothers or there is more than one mother involved?) My dad just married my mom in college and had kids with her afterwards. They've just been married for almost three decades.

My dad though doesn't need a pat on the back. Nor does he have people giving explanations for carelessness.

A lot of people have disagreed with what I have said. But can we now look at the people experimenting with children's lives? I know no one ones to talk about that.

My friend is also a former member of the Army. Ya' know, the good people who readily put their lives on the line for your freedom and mine...

But that doesn't matter to you, does it? Not if they've had a child out of wedlock or have divorced, right. Am I right? Please tell me where I've gone wrong. Because I'd like to know. Make a case to me - an actual case, not just more sidestepping, and dodging your own post history (thanks IGB), please.

You have a good one.

 

[Callum]

...will...not...take...bait.

Although I'm happy Esquire did.

 

[Lostlover]

Wow. So it's not good for a child to wear very good conditioned old clothes that were hand-me-downs from an older sibling. The parents should by default shell out money for the newest clothes instead of using the perfectly good resources at hand. And you actually lose respect for people who do this. Yikes.

No... The fact that she doesn't work, has six kids and thinks her kids wearing second hand clothes are cute. People generally wear second hand clothing because they have to, not necessarily because they want to. Considering the fact that she doesn't work and thinks wearing second hands clothes is cute, I couldn't help but shake my head that morning on the treadmill.

I've also never heard of someone boasting about wearing second hand clothing. I know some hippies that do that, however she's far from doing it as a political statement.

And everyone has their troll. The mods delete silly posts because they're intentionally taken outo f context. I was talking about my teacher assistants always fighting with each other, there wasn't a commentary on the children. But my troll presents it as if I'm talking about the children in the exceptional education room. Not the case and it borders on slander.

 

[Musik2400]

So you must think I can't post statistics from Google? You and I both know the statistics are ugly. I'm just not about to post them and they exist all over the web. It'd take a couple of seconds to post numbers about the horror of popping kids out of wedlock. So, maybe I'm not posting them for a reason?

As I've said before, I'm here to share terrifying experiences with unwed parents.

And why exactly are you not about to post them? Is that not the easiest way to prove your side of an argument is to back it up with statistics? As you've said "we all know they are ugly" and "it would take a couple of seconds" If you're so intent on proving to us that "The worst kids are born out of wedlock" than maybe you should just take a couple seconds to prove us wrong and show us how ignorant you think we are?

You claim they're allover the web, but you also keep just throwing out more un-cited statistics. For example: your 80% of inmates, I'd like to see that one please. I searched google, and couldn't find anything about inmates and children born out of wedlock. But maybe I'm just a moron who doesn't know what's what and need a true genius to show them to me?

 

[Lostlover]

This is my original post. Was I talking about children or the teacher's aides? Maybe presenting it as if I'm talking about the children could be the reason mods deleted the intentionally misleading posts? Just maybe? Maybe omitting the first line, in bolded font, in the paragraph that indicates I'm talking about the adults in the room would make it seems like I'm talking about the children?

I found out a little more. The woman in question felt the gay guy wasn't compassionate enough about her family problems. And finally went off on the gay guy calling him a cunt.

These teacher's aides are always beefing. I hate subbing in special Ed rooms. I try to stay out of it but find myself wanting to scream. (On a side note, has anyone here ever had these experiences subbing, especially in a special Ed room?)

This woman was grinding her teeth yesterday everytime I called the man's name. Which is kind of funny if there wasn't a possibly that the issue would escalate further.

Said troll has already been banned once. He has too much time on his hands.

 

[Lostlover]

And why exactly are you not about to post them? Is that not the easiest way to prove your side of an argument is to back it up with statistics? As you've said "we all know they are ugly" and "it would take a couple of seconds" If you're so intent on proving to us that "The worst kids are born out of wedlock" than maybe you should just take a couple seconds to prove us wrong and show us how ignorant you think we are?

You claim they're allover the web, but you also keep just throwing out more un-cited statistics. For example: your 80% of inmates, I'd like to see that one please. I searched google, and couldn't find anything about inmates and children born out of wedlock. But maybe I'm just a moron who doesn't know what's what and need a true genius to show them to me?

I'm going to make a separate thread with statistics later today. Now I'm on my phone. You can knock yourself out discrediting the studies and institutions publishing these data.

 

[jackoroe]

Not quite sure why my quotation of this was removed from this thread.

Even more confused why my comments pointing it out were removed, at the exact same time, in the thread where I initially pointed it out.

Comments I made over a month ago.




What the fuck is going on around here?

Who are the mods so intent on scrubbing the record clean?

Why are they so determined to create this distortion?

Here's the reason your posts have been removed. You have repeatedly and purposefully edited this important sentence out of the OP's post.

These teacher's aides are always beefing.

If you quote his post in it's entirety and highlight what you want to emphasize, that's fair. But that isn't what you are doing. He claims his issue is with the teacher's aides, not the kids. I can see where that may be the case if you consider his post in it's entirety. It is your postings that create a distorted image. If the purse fight continues on, this thread will go the way of the dinosaur.

 

[Esquire0399]

So you must think I can't post statistics from Google? You and I both know the statistics are ugly. I'm just not about to post them and they exist all over the web. It'd take a couple of seconds to post numbers about the horror of popping kids out of wedlock. So, maybe I'm not posting them for a reason?

As I've said before, I'm here to share terrifying experiences with unwed parents.

Dude that's not even what I said. What I'm saying here is that you're taking your opinion on a subject, with a basis in personal experience, and calling that opinion 100% factual, which is INCORRECT. I'm not even calling you on how wrong you are otherwise, just the simple difference between fact and opinion that you clearly fail to grasp. Learn the difference before teaching it to your kids.