Speaker Pelosi's press conference

[White Eagle]

I'm surprised that none of you right-minded guys haven't swooped down on this story. Here's an example. Rep Boehner critized Pelosi saying the CIA would never mislead Congress, yet back in 2007 Boehner says "either I don't have confidence in what they told me several months ago or I don't have confidence in what they're telling me today." That story is here:

http://mediamattersaction.org/video/200905140006

Then here's this. Now both you and I know that the Shrub-a-nostra Crime Family were caught in lies all over DC. It is not too hard to believe the CIA will lie.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30745095/

Pelosi: Bush team misled her on waterboarding

'We were told that waterboarding was not being used,' says the speaker

updated 6:51 p.m. CT, Thurs., May 14, 2009

WASHINGTON - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi bluntly accused the CIA on Thursday of misleading her and other lawmakers about its use of waterboarding during the Bush administration, escalating a controversy grown to include both political parties, the spy agency and the White House.

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I got more if anyone wants to defend the G-no-P
But I will say this, there is nothing you can say that will make me believe that the CIA did not lie.

 

[HenryReardon]

But I will say this, there is nothing you can say that will make me believe that the CIA did not lie.

The issue is not about the CIA, it's about the Speaker of the House. What did Princess Nancy know, and when did she know it?

She has told so many versions of the story that she is losing all credibility.

Look at a full clip of her news conference - she is clearly nervous; her eyes keep darting about; etc etc.

The $64 question is this: "Will Princess Nancy lose her throne?" It is entirely possible that the Dems will have to replace her as speaker.

The truly ironic thing in all of this is that had she kept her mouth shut, she wouldn't be in this self-constructed box - she was the leader of the pack in the charge against alleged torture. Evidently Princess Nancy never heard the old saying 'be careful what you wish for.'

http://www.independent.org/blog/?p=2111

Could House Speaker Nancy Pelosi be lying once again?

The Washington Post has now reported that directly contrary to her repeated claims, a newly released intelligence memo indicates that less than a year after 9/11, Pelosi was fully briefed in 2002 about CIA torture techniques being used.

In a 10-page memo outlining an almost seven-year history of classified briefings, intelligence officials said that Pelosi and then-Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla.) were the first two members of Congress ever briefed on the interrogation tactics. Then the ranking member and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, respectively, Pelosi and Goss were briefed Sept. 4, 2002, one week before the first anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

In an April 25th article in the Post, Porter Goss, who later became CIA Director, confirms that Pelosi and other congressional leaders are now lying about the matter in order to cover up their total complicity in supporting the use of torture techniques:

A disturbing epidemic of amnesia seems to be plaguing my former colleagues on Capitol Hill. After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, members of the committees charged with overseeing our nation’s intelligence services had no higher priority than stopping al-Qaeda. In the fall of 2002, while I was chairman of the House intelligence committee, senior members of Congress were briefed on the CIA’s “High Value Terrorist Program,” including the development of “enhanced interrogation techniques” and what those techniques were. This was not a one-time briefing but an ongoing subject with lots of back and forth between those members and the briefers.

Today, I am slack-jawed to read that members claim to have not understood that the techniques on which they were briefed were to actually be employed; or that specific techniques such as “waterboarding” were never mentioned. It must be hard for most Americans of common sense to imagine how a member of Congress can forget being told about the interrogations of Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. In that case, though, perhaps it is not amnesia but political expedience.

 

[spencer]

everything is political.

Nacy Pelosi is not my favorite at all, but the CIA also didn't do too good a job at correcting George W when he claimed there were WMD's in Iraq either.

 

[White Eagle]

The issue is not about the CIA, it's about the Speaker of the House. What did Princess Nancy know, and when did she know it?

She has told so many versions of the story that she is losing all credibility.

Look at a full clip of her news conference - she is clearly nervous; her eyes keep darting about; etc etc.

The $64 question is this: "Will Princess Nancy lose her throne?" It is entirely possible that the Dems will have to replace her as speaker.

The truly ironic thing in all of this is that had she kept her mouth shut, she wouldn't be in this self-constructed box - she was the leader of the pack in the charge against alleged torture. Evidently Princess Nancy never heard the old saying 'be careful what you wish for.'

http://www.independent.org/blog/?p=2111

Nice try but:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30638518/

CIA docs vague on Pelosi, interrogations
Records unclear if House speaker knew when waterboarding was going on


WASHINGTON - CIA records show House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was briefed in September 2002 on harsh interrogation techniques being used on terrorist suspects, but the records do little to settle a dispute over whether she knew waterboarding had already been used against one prisoner by then.

The CIA is lying about telling her about the waterboarding.. It's right there. You cannot convince me otherwise. The G-no-Pers will lie just as fast as the CIA.

 

[HenryReardon]

The CIA is lying about telling her about the waterboarding.. It's right there. You cannot convince me otherwise. The G-no-Pers will lie just as fast as the CIA.

From your post:

CIA records show House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was briefed in September 2002 on harsh interrogation techniques being used on terrorist suspects

 

[HenryReardon]

http://invinciblearmor.blogspot.com/2009/05/sausage-with-that-waffle-ms-pelosi.html

 

[HenryReardon]

Here's another one:

From the Washington Post in Dec 2007

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664.html

By Joby Warrick and Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, December 9, 2007; Page A01

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp

 

[Seasoned]

Boy, she fell for it. The fucking Republicans did it again. They made the issue a Democrat when they were the ones in power and the breakers of the laws on torture. The Dems need to grow up and not fall for these ploys. Weather Nancy Pelosi know or not knew isn't the point. She had no control in the matter. Let's bring on the hearings and then the trials.

 

[White Eagle]

From your post:

But you are not reading what you don't want to. They briefed her but not on waterboarding.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30638518/

Pelosi, a California Democrat, waded into that debate when she told reporters in April that in 2002 she had been briefed on the authorized techniques but was not told that waterboarding had been already been used on a prisoner. Waterboarding, which simulates drowning, is the most severe of the 10 techniques approved by the Bush White House. There is no record that Pelosi objected to using the techniques.

 

[White Eagle]

Boy, she fell for it. The fucking Republicans did it again. They made the issue a Democrat when they were the ones in power and the breakers of the laws on torture. The Dems need to grow up and not fall for these ploys. Weather Nancy Pelosi know or not knew isn't the point. She had no control in the matter. Let's bring on the hearings and then the trials.

Thank you,
as per my previous posts, I lean to CIA lying. However, the way to settle it is something I've wanted all along. Let's get a hearing going on finding the truth then when the truth is told, prosecute.

 

[Lostlover]

It boggles the mind how Republicans, the fathers of torture, are spinning this into a Pelosi issue. Or trying to.

It also astounds how extremists on this very forum quote The Washington Post as their bible. Funny how that works, too, as they ALWAYS dismiss The Post and The Times as "librual media" that lack cred. Having it both ways -- it's a wingnut thing, it really is.

So, true. Their president can authorize it and they can blame it on the Democratic speaker?

Talk about lighting both ends of the stick.

 

[White Eagle]

It boggles the mind how Republicans, the fathers of torture, are spinning this into a Pelosi issue. Or trying to.

It also astounds how extremists on this very forum quote The Washington Post as their bible. Funny how that works, too, as they ALWAYS dismiss The Post and The Times as "librual media" that lack cred. Having it both ways -- it's a wingnut thing, it really is.

You've been away a long time, welcome back.. aaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I sure you're not citing the NY Post or the Wash Times. Nah, you wouldn't do that.
Forgive my pun.

Since I was in the Navy before, welcome Admiral Alfie.

 

[naked gent]

Weather Nancy Pelosi know or not knew isn't the point. She had no control in the matter. Let's bring on the hearings and then the trials.

You're absolutely right. Why quibble over what she knew and when she knew it when it wouldn't have made any difference.

I concede she looked bad at her press conference but so will those who authorized torture should they be forced to testify.

 

[White Eagle]

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/t...uch-more-media-scrutiny-than-cias-assertions/

The Plum LineGreg Sargent's blog
Pelosi’s Claims Getting Much More Media Scrutiny Than CIA’s Assertions

Let’s briefly recap. Three senior Democrats — Pelosi, Bob Graham, and Jay Rockefeller — have all publicly claimed that the CIA didn’t brief them about the use of torture in the manner the agency has claimed. Meanwhile, the CIA itself has conceded that its own accounting may not be accurate.

Yet key facts that cast doubt on the CIA’s claims have been buried or completely omitted from multiple news reports. The Times’s first mention of Graham’s claims came today, five days after he first made them, and they were buried in the 22nd paragraph of the paper’s write-up. Neither The Time nor The Post have even mentioned Rockefeller’s claims once. The networks have refused across the board to mention the CIA’s own unwillingness to vouch for the accuracy of its information.

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Here are 3 dems all at the briefing and all three were not told of the waterboarding.
Bring on the investigation,

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/t...d-about-waterboarding-or-eits-in-my-briefing/

Bob Graham: I Wasn’t Told About Waterboarding Or EITs In My Briefing

Former Senator Bob Graham, who received a classified briefing on terror detainees during the same month in the fall of 2002 as Nancy Pelosi, was not briefed about the use of either waterboarding or enhanced interrogation techniques during the meeting, he claimed in an interview with me.

Graham’s assertion — his first public comments since the release of the intelligence document detailing torture briefings given to members of Congress — directly contradicts the document’s claim that he had been briefed on enhanced interrogation techniques, or EITs. Graham is now the second Dem official to deny on the record the document’s contents and raises questions about its claim that Pelosi had been told, which she has denied.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0509/Another_Dem_casts_doubt_on_CIA_briefing_memo.html

Glenn Thrush

Another Dem casts doubt on CIA briefing memo

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), who was chairman of the intelligence committee in 2002, is the latest Democrat to seriously question the accuracy of the CIA memo detailing Congressional briefings on waterboarding and enhanced interrogations.

In my reporting for the Pelosi piece this morning, co-written with John Bresnahan, a Rockefeller aide took issue with two characterizations made in the memo, which was requested by House Republicans and released by CIA director Leon Panetta last week.

 

[Txgoodoldboy]

Look at a full clip of her news conference - she is clearly nervous; her eyes keep darting about; etc etc.

To me, she looked mad as hell, and she wasn't going to take it any more!

I think the Repugs have crossed the wrong woman.

 

[Jack Springer]

Put a fork in her -- she's done!

 

[Kulindahr]

This brings to mind an instance at work when we employees got chewed out for not following what we were told at a meeting.

In fact we never had been told -- but there was a copy of an agenda for the meeting that showed those things as subjects. In the event, the meeting took a different turn and we never covered those topics -- but since the agenda in the file said we had....


I don't trust either side here, Pelosi or the CIA. But I know from experience that what the document in the file says and what actually happened at the meeting are not necessarily the same.

 

[Edward Twinkletoes]

So, true. Their president can authorize it and they can blame it on the Democratic speaker?

Talk about lighting both ends of the stick.

And she wasn't even the speaker at the time!

Of course, the Democrats should have put up more of a fight than they did even if they were the minority. TBH, Pelosi can go down with the rest of them on torture for all I care.

 

[chance1]

It boggles the mind how Republicans, the fathers of torture, are spinning this into a Pelosi issue. Or trying to.

It also astounds how extremists on this very forum quote The Washington Post as their bible. Funny how that works, too, as they ALWAYS dismiss The Post and The Times as "librual media" that lack cred. Having it both ways -- it's a wingnut thing, it really is.

spinning?

she practically had a nervous breakdown at her press conference

did you watch it?

this is the LEADER of the house?

she's so over her head

her judgement sucks egss

and she's a liar to boot

i'm sure pres. obama has NO use for her or her senate alter ego harry reid

i like her pearls though

 

[chance1]

^ Some people would say your comments reflect a deep hatred for women. Now, I'm not saying that, but I can see where other level-headed people would think it.

that would be ur older brother or father or cousin

u know

the other alfie

ur a chip off the old block