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** Star Trek **

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I'll add some of what i think about the spoilers above, but will also put them in spoilers.

spock's mother had very little to do with the original series. she was only in one episode and then had a cameo in one movie. spock's father was in the original series, several of the movies, and in TNG so i'd say he had a much larger roll than him mom and he's still alive in the new movie. i don't think this movie invalidates anything that has come before it. those are alternate time lines. older spook still remimbers those other events so they did happen. the francise did need a reimagining and this was a neat and clean way to do it without invalidating everything else.

i still think it was a really good movie. ..|
 
Mike's right. Everything we long-time fans have known is still in effect. We just have some new adventures to look forward to as well.
 
I saw the film last night on IMAX and I, the guy I was with and the entire packed audience loved it from start to finish. The film is fast moving, funny, suspenseful & well acted. Abrams did a terrific job with the direction and in casting the film. I want to particularly point out New Zealnd's Karl Urban for practically channeling DeForest Kelly as Bones McCoy, and Anton Yelchin the cute twink who plays Chekov, the navigator with the thick Russian accent, who in real life is Russian but has an American accent, brilliant. I am a long time Trek fan (love TOS, TNG & DS9. Voyager & Enterprise not so much) but I did not have a problem with some of the (sometimes dramatic) deviations from official Trek cannon. The only one that really through me for a loop and didn't like at first but then quickly started to love a lot as it unfolded on screen was the romance between blank & blank. I wouldn't mind having a threeway with those 2, theyre both hot. If your a casual fan of Trek or not a fan at all I still highly recomend it. Having said that though I did enjoy some of the inside stuff that a non fan would not get at all (the red shirt and the wheelchair are 2 small examples). I am looking forward to the DVD of this film already and can't wait for the sequels. Job well done.
 
Killjoke said:
Mike's right. Everything we long-time fans have known is still in effect. We just have some new adventures to look forward to as well.
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everything? i dunno... with nero's activities i think he's irrevocably changed what we know to be cannon now. in fact, it sort of reminded me of the end result of the crisis on infinite earths! :square:
 
GL said:
everything? i dunno... with nero's activities i think he's irrevocably changed what we know to be cannon now. in fact, it sort of reminded me of the end result of the crisis on infinite earths! :square:
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I took it to mean that this didn't alter everything we knew before about them, but instead created an alternate time line in which these versions of the characters now exist alongside the time line we already know about. So, not a reboot, but a new strand to follow.

Speaking of Crisis, are you looking forward to Morrison's Multiversity? :)
 
/\ exactly!
all the previous events "happened" but now we're in an alternate time line so they wont "rehappen" but that's the exciting part. we have a whole new future to look forward to.
 
agaymale said:
I will never claim to be a trek purist, but I do have something to complain about. I'm putting it in a SPOILER frame for those that haven't seen it yet.

I have to agree with the Spoiler Alert: Just to state past history>>>> Amanda Grayson
Played by Jane Wyatt; Majel Barrett (voice - Animated Series)
Episode: TOS 044 - Journey to Babel

Born in 2210, Grayson was a schoolteacher from Earth who married the Vulcan diplomat Sarek and gave birth to Spock in 2230. She reunited with her son when she accompanied her husband aboard the Enterprise during the Babel Conference in 2267, and was instrumental in helping Sarek and Spock reconcile some of their differences. An emotional woman, Spock wondered why his father would marry her, to which Sarek replied it seemed like the "logical" thing to do at the time.
In an alternate reality accidentally created by a temporal survey team using the Guardian of Forever on stardate 5373.4 (2269), Amanda separated from Sarek and returned to Earth's solar system shortly after young Spock's accidental death on Vulcan in 2237 (8877 on the Vulcan calendar); she subsequently died in a shuttle crash near Lunaport. When the adult Spock from an alternate future altered time to prevent his own death as a child, the timeline that led to Amanda's death was erased as well.

In 2285 Amanda helped Spock re-educate himself after his death and rebirth on the Genesis planet and fal-tor-pan rejoining. She tried especially to help her son rediscover his human side, by programming his computer to ask such questions as "How do you feel?"

Amanda was Sarek's second wife. After her death he married another human woman named Perrin.
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All I am going to add to this thread, is that I think this movie is the best movie I have ever seen. Yes, it is even better than My Fair Lady.

I cried often.

...although, does anyone think that they will eventually go back in time and erase that timeline? Vulcan cannot be permanently destroyed... can it?
 
to the two that posted their spoiler questions earlier, doesn't the move in effect change everything about the future Star Trek that already happened (not just the instance you pointed out).
 
cAndId said:
All I am going to add to this thread, is that I think this movie is the best movie I have ever seen. Yes, it is even better than My Fair Lady.

I cried often.
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:luv:

marry me.
 
I just got back from seeing this, and I absolutely loved it.


I kinda like the original series, but I never really watched it. It's just too dated for me to really sit down and enjoy. I have a hard time getting past some of the special effects and such used back then.

That being said I knew very little going in, and still really enjoyed this. I knew enough to get a few of the references and "chuckle moments" too, which was fun.


I really hope they decide to take this story (and hopefully cast) and run with it. I can easily see this turning into a new series I could become a huge fan of.
 
spencer said:
to the two that posted their spoiler questions earlier, doesn't the move in effect change everything about the future Star Trek that already happened (not just the instance you pointed out).
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This is, in effect, an alternate universe story. Just like you've seen on each of the series if you're a Trekker.
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As for what this does for Star Trek movie plot #11...it might take us "somewhere we've never been before." A bit of a challenge but easier given #10's premise.
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Indeed, "Fascinating," fits #10, precisely because it's gone so boldly elsewhere.
 
God,I checked up all the spoilers(because basically I just had to);)and I still can't wait til Monday to see it!!!I'd give a hundred pieces of gold pressed latinum(gratuitous DS9 reference) to know what the sequel is gonna be about...and hope a TV future in a couple of years is a logical outcome of this already incredibly successful re-imagining of the classic.
 
Oh but Zachary Quinto is all caught up in Heroes is he not? Is he gonna have time to do both if there does come to be a massive desire for a new TV series? If there is a new series about the old and original Star Trek based on this new movie, then they had dam well better not try and switch out some characters to compensate for any reason at all! I really hate when a sequel is made and not all the actors are the same. That's partly the reason I didn't wholly like "Another Gay Sequel".
 
Loved it. I'm not really a star trek fan. I loved Voyager though. Always watched that. Not a fan of the original. I think they took steps in this movie to say this is a whole new Kirk and Spock. That a new timeline has occurred so that we as the audience don't know what will happen to these characters. I thought that was very smart. It took this film out of the prequel category but doing what they did in the movie. Loved Chris Pine also. Very sexy.
 
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