I was using myself as an example of the fact that assumptions are just as likely to be wrong as they are to be right. I'm here because I'm bi and I enjoy conversations with people I have at least something in common with. If someone were to guess or assume I was here for any other reason, they'd be completely wrong. This is my point. It's just that easy to assume and be wrong.
Right, assuming would not be the way to go.
This is why people ask these questions... and then the people they're asking get defensve (see the rest of this thread), and tell them to grow up.
As it seems I may have read you wrong,
No worries - really, I wasn't looking for a fight.
I won't specifically include you in what I'm about to say but some of these posters appear to be a bit more than curious. You only have to read this thread to see what I mean. I just don't see the point of going as far as being openly hostile to someone simply because you suspect they may not be comfortable with revealing everything about themselves on an internet discussion forum. Particularly when it has to do with sexuality, which is already about as sensitive a subject as it gets.
You're preaching to the choir, here. But at the same time I see where these guys are coming from - every time I see one of these threads I'm reminded of that bit from Finding Nemo where Marlon and Dory end up with those vegetarian sharks. A lot of these guys - us - have put up with shit from straight people for much of their lives, and they'd rather their safe haven - here - remained straight-free.
It used to piss me off too, when I first got here, but I can't say I blame them.
What are you talking about? I merely said that the tone of your post appeared to be condescending and insinuating. If it wasn't, then I simply read it wrong but as I said, if you read the rest of this thread, can you blame me?
Not at all - just setting the record straight.
OK. I respect that. I don't automatically believe anything I read online either. But this isn't a matter of life and death. It's not like a president is telling you something and you simply must find out if he's lying or not. If I say I'm straight and I'm not, what's the worst thing that's gonna happen? You're gonna read my posts for a year thinking I'm a straight guy? OK? And?
I hear you.
If I can offer an opinion for why the others call people on it - just a theory - they're trying to start the denials/closet cases/deludeds/your epithet here/ on the road to accepting who they are and coming out. As someone once said, just by being out you do your bit for the community. Easy for me to say, of course.
Another theory - nobody likes a bullshit artist. If you
really believe you're straight - fine. But if you're not sure, hell, say so. We've all been there. And that's why we're all here. Fuck, if you enjoy gay porn because you're gay, this is the one place you can be sure nobody will look down on you for it, so why pretend? You're certainly not impressing anyone.
"I was working on an article/book about gay people and I needed an inside perspective of the gay community". That doesn't make perfect sense to you? I'm not saying that but that could be a reason why a straight man or woman would be here.
It does, to a point. Not 3000+ posts, or anything like that - if you aren't going to disclose your interests then I think you'd get in, get your data, get out. Nobody wants to be used as a guinea pig without their permission, either. And if you do disclose, I think people will be mostly okay with that and let you do your thing.
They just might be curious. That doesn't make perfect sense? Maybe they're bored and they want to talk to people who are completely different from themselves. There could be any number of completely understandable motivations.
Yeah - again, not to several years and/or several thousand posts, I don't think. As you've said, when you've joined boards where you're out of place, you've been ignored - why stay?
Not everyone is a bigoted homophobe. Even if the vast majority is, it only takes a few to show up here who genuinely want to make gay friends and are tolerant and curious about gay attitudes, philosophies, culture, customs and so forth.
I'm not sure I'd gatecrash a porn board looking for that sort of thing. I think, if I were in that sort of situation, I'd go looking for something less graphic and with a higher percentage of meaningful discussion. Let's be honest, nobody goes looking for friends at 4chan - it's pretty much pics only. You want to chat anime and manga culture, 4chan is not a good starting spot.
Look at the
numbers - the bulk of the posts are in Fun and Games (0% meaningful/serious stuff) and Hot Topics (maybe 20% serious stuff). Anyone looking for serious stuff is going to find less than 300 000 serious posts (Coming out, relationships. politics, entertainment, health, sports, tech) and almost 3 million fun/porn topics. You can do the maths on that. Not that anyone would necessarily spot that on their first visit, of course.
And yet straight men sit around jerking off to closeups of dicks sliding in and out of women's asses all the time. In fact, half the time, you almost can't even tell it's a female ass. They tolerate it well enough when it's in a context that doesn't make them uncomfortable in front of a group of people.
If that were true, there wouldn't be gay porn and straight porn. There'd just be porn.
OK. But why? You still haven't explained why it matters. The board is open to everyone. If you invite everyone, people will turn up from all over. They might be gay, they might be bi, they might be lesbian, they might be asexual. I do see why a gay man might pretend to be straight but I just don't see the harm if he does.
Were you invited, or did you let yourself in?
There's an open door policy, perhaps, but certainly the way the site is geared - money from ad revenue and site referrals - the straights are largely wasted bandwidth, aren't they?
Either way, my interest is purely academic. The way I see it, everyone knows about Tubgirl or 2girls1cup or rotten.com. A percentage of those people who know about it will lose to their curiosity and go to see it in person. A few will even manage it a second or third time. But the person who pops in there fairly regularly - that's not curiosity; that's a way of life. So I wonder how the genuine straights routinely find this to be the place they choose to frequent.
True. But some folks can barely spell. You don't honestly expect them to think that deeply about it?
Um... yeah, I do. Look, you and I are old-school. The kids these days, they know their way around these things. People can figure out they can leave their hometowns and area codes and whatever off the form, they'll figure out they can leave the rest out too.
In that case, I apologize. I was reading more between the lines (as I said) because this thread kind of demands it. I was paying more attention to what wasn't said but appeared to be implied than I normally would because of the general direction a lot of the posts appeared to be going in.
No apologies needed, dude.
In fairness to the other guys, I suppose they're tired of the same old nonsense, of guys who claim to be straight and who turn out later to be not so straight when it was obvious to everyone from the start.
Indeed. I haven't followed your posts but I know the feeling, being bi myself. I was astonished the first time I heard someone say flat out that they didn't believe bisexuality exists. And I mean this was a person I thought was intelligent. I've pretty much been aware that I was bi since I hit puberty and as far as I ever knew, the legitimacy of bisexuality as an orientation was never in any doubt by anyone other than the same people who believe homosexuality is a choice.
Yeah. We're all on the same page, here - hence the bi board, away from the more vocal gay guys who claim we don't exist!
You probably never will because the response to the question is going to be different every time you ask it. Or, at least, every person you ask is going to be an individual so even if the answer is the same, the reasons behind it may not be.
Probably not. I'm still waiting for the one answer which makes more sense than the rest, though...
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