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You'll need to do more market research .. than ask the infrequent and random member of this site. How many (such RV and camping sites with 'resort' facilities) can you find in your area? Statewide, provincial (CA), nationally (or internationally - CA/Mex)? Visit or talk by phone the owner/operators of several.

So is the photo at the right one of this blog's author at Herring Cove Beach, Provincetown, MA).

I think you should not be fixed on just doing a 'RV' gay camp site. With the price of gasoline, fewer people are rushing out to buy huge RVs.

Some important things have already been said. But are you limiting the idea too much? males only, RVs only, 1-person operation?

On what kind of scale are you thinking of making this?

Enough for 5 RV (parked on 1-acre or less, or a 20 - 200 acre spread?
Do you expect to run it alone or are you going to have employees? (opening yourself up to the possibilities -- also - opens you up to a lot of liabilities too.
I'm not nixing the idea - just asking and advising you to think and also gather more information.

You need a business plan and also have a vision of how the vision might grow (change) in the next 5 - 10 - 20 years.

The male-only requirement seems a little drastic -if not downright discriminatory (not in the legal sense) - although it might be (needs checking).

By doing so, it seems you aren't really thinking about it as a money-making business. So you need to sort out what you're really trying to do: have access to your own 'private' sex club, make extra money, create a business (investment, capital expenditures, employees, taxes, accounting, etc),

If you make it a gay camping resort, then it's likely that 85% of your customers will be men, 10% lesbian couples, and 5% would be wives, girlfriends, fag hags, daughters, sisters, because some gay men are married or travellng with female companions.or family.

If you make it simply a clothing optional instead of 'gay', I honestly don't think these basic numbers will change a whole lot -- for example 70% would be gay men and male couples, 10% lesbian, and 20% mixed. You should be able to confirm these numbers by surveying some current owner-operators.




You're also likely to get more year-round guests, and have more men who don't identify themselves as 'gay' but who want to be with other naked men (maybe seems a contradiction - but I think it happens a lot).


Only RVs? That's too limiting. If you have the right amount of land and a good location, then why limit it to RVers? Generally, they are retirees, reasonably well off financially (esp if they are not retired), they travel in couples and they tend to herd (many RVs want to go where their nomadic RV 'friends' go). They stay a long time, too, esp if the weather is warmer in winter where you are.

It would be good to have a multiple-use type of camping resort: RV sites, tent camping sites, small cabins/A-frames, a lodge with dining facilities (the restaurant alone could draw in people), day-use passes, etc.

If you can't do it all at once, then at least plan with the idea of possibly growing the business in mind.


Also, there are any number of other expansion possibilities to bring in guests who want a vacation, or those who want to spend a day-two out of the city (and like being naked to do so), by having the resort be MORE than just a place to sleep and sit in the sun.

Location is your biggest obstacle - are you going to move to the best location for such a place or are you going to build it in your backyard -- Build it and they will cum (pun intended). Is your area conducive to such a place? In every sense ....?

Still it's been done before -- who would have thought a small rural community 40 miles outside of Knoxville (TN) would support Timberfell Lodge

 
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Part of a discussion on another phpBB forum discussion board. The topic was discussing the idea of male-only clothing-optional RV park, camping center, or gay resort. I spent a lot of energy thinking about this kind of project --probably because I really like the 'seed' of the idea. My advice was to approach is a vision - one that needed a real (and well-researched) business plan.
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I have been in a debate with people about an idea i had and hoping the readers of this forum can help me.

I would like to open a clothing optional private RV park for men only. I am being informed that it wouldn't be a hit and i am being told yes it would. I would like to know if other men would possibly be interested in such a park as a get away to relax and play in the sun.

For the relaxing side i was thinking of a pool with a couple of hot tubs, with indoor/outdoor showers, maybe putt-putt golf. Of course the ideas could be endless and maybe you can suggest some relaxing activities.

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[TD="colspan: 2"]Depends on where you are located; if you are near a sizeable gay population it might attract enough clientele. Hear in Southern Ontario/Northern New York area there are 1 or 2 similar places I think.
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[TD="colspan: 2"]I agree, it does depend on your location. RV camping can be done all year, but I'm not sure how many gay RVers there are these days, but if you were to combine it with camping (seasonal) and choose a private location..that has a wooded area..hot tub/pool/showers etc..I think you may be onto something.

It might be a good idea to have a day use policy too so guys can come and relax, use the facilities and romp with the campers and guys in RV's.

You might do beer bust or bbq on weekends..stuff like that. Make the food free (build it into the costs) but charge a flat fee for the beer. If it were near a river for swimming...even better....but you may get traffic floating by.

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Not many of them, maybe half a dozen at any one time across the huge expanse of dunes, unlike the hundred and more tourists to be found among the bushes these days. Back then I was the only tourist in the dunes. The men I would see tended to look and act like the guy in the attached photo, average age 21, dressed in shorts, speedos or nothing at all and with obvious intentions. I don't know how the image here came to be taken but
it certainly brings back happy memories!
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[/FONT][FONT="arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif][FONT=&quot]The pics show me naked out in the Maspalomas Dunes, which can be reached on foot from the Playa del Ingles beach or by walking back from the shoreline toward central Playa del Ingles (town). The major gay nightlife is usually found in and around the Yumbo Center, a large 4-story shopping complex, with numerous restaurants, souvenirs shops, fashion stores, etc. It becomes the local gay mecca sometimes after 11pm each night and is active until 3-4am. There are also sex clubs located within the Yumbo, mostly on the ground floor level, mixed in with the gay bars, several which have drag shows and strip shows. [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

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I also share David's (atitlan) enthusiastic memories of the Island of Gran Canaria described below.
However, mine are much more recent because I have visited it every March since 2005 (except for last year). So it was refreshing to return to the the island and its dunes this March to find it basically unchanged and just as cruisy. I also saw many cases of exactly what he describes below. There are straight (seemingly... at least) guys who go out singly or in pairs or more into the dunes away from the crowds of either clothed or nude sunbathers along the beach to take a few private naked photos. It was interesting to watch them do so - although I hesitated to take any photos of two straights taking candid nude pics of each other. Besides, there were plenty of other 'distracting' activities going on in the dunes and among the bushy stands of tree found in the low areas between them.




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These are almost certainly the dunes between the resorts of Maspalomas and Playa del Ingles on the south coast of Gran Canaria in the Spanish Canary Islands off the African coast.
We have posted many Maspalomas images here previously, nowadays a big gay destination with a vibrant nightlife and a crowded male-only nudist section on the beach.

When I visited first aged 24, the resort area was about a tenth of the size it is now and not gay at all. The 3-mile beach other than around the hotels of Playa and the lighthouse at Maspalomas was virtually deserted.

However the dunes proved to be something of a magnet for certain young men from the city of Las Palmas to the north.



 

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Something has been bugging me for quite some time, but I can't exactly bring up the subject with the culprits: What's with all the guys who resist wearing towels in the locker rooms of athletic clubs? I'm using the plural because, though I only belong to one club, I assume the phenomenon is widespread. I'm not a prude, but there's something really creepy about flabby 60-year-olds standing shaving/gabbing/strolling etc. buck naked when they could easily wrap towels around their waists.

My theory, for what it's worth, is that many of these people have not participated in high school or college athletics, thereby learning a few important things about locker room etiquette. I ran track and xc in college not long ago, and everybody wore towels except, naturally, in the shower. There's just no reason to display your garbage to the world if you don't have to.

If you're one of the no-towel types, I'd like to hear why you do it.





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Women do it too. Pretty gross.


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naked guy in the locker room who invades my space and insists and getting far to close to me or others is truly disgusting. serious social violation.





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Personally I wear a towel all the time except for the few seconds I don't have to while getting dressed or getting in the shower, but that is only because Flagpole Willy cares about everyone and their feelings.

Don't want everyone else feeling badly about their shortcomings you know.





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People that age grew up with different norms for locker room behavior. When they were kids they actually showered after gym class. I doubt it was because they lack your vast experience as an athlete; if anything, people who never spent time in locker rooms tend to cower in corners.

Besides, if I haven't showered yet, I don't wrap my towel around my sweaty body. Why get the towel dirty to avoid offending your sexual insecurities?


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It was easy to wrap a towel around myself when I was a young runner. When you grow a gut, you can't keep the damn towel on, and it just falls on the floor anyway.





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This is an interesting viewpoint. I am a twenty-something and in college and in high school, the people who wore towels, of which I once was, were looked upon with contempt and disgust. I think the rationale was that those individuals had very small penises and were hiding them or else they were afraid of revealing their erections it was presumed they might be having (although I am not sure a towel would do much to hide an erection, that was the logic used by teenagers). Before long, I ditched the towel and found it didn't really bother me or anyone else. I personally am not offended by any person who goes without a towel nor do I scoff at those who carry one. It seems pretty irrelevant. I don't know what social norms are expected in a place like a locker room, but I either don't know them or I ignore them.

On an interesting side note, I went to a female friends apartment last night to spend some time there, and upon entering, I found one of them completely nude in her shower--natually--and one of her other roommates standing there combing her hair in the same bathroom with the door wide open. Being a gentleman, I chose not to stand there and gawk but I did see enough to figure out that neither girl appeared disconcerted or bothered by the one naked female. I guess this means girls, or at least these two, don't appear to have the same hangup guys do.

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S&V, Next time you visit your friends please bring a digital camera and snap a shot to share with us all. It might not be the gentlemanly thing to do, but it would be the manly/humanitarian thing to do (unless you friend's naked showering friend is a sorry sight. If that is the case, I feel for you).





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In college, I always enjoyed the freedom of wandering around the locker room with my johnson unleashed. The locker room was sort of a johnson-free zone-- our private space, where we could crank up some tunes after a workout and let things swing.... Now there were guys who would do things like wear sandles into the shower... these dudes usually whipped their towels tightly around their small packages immediately upon exiting, usually after a nervous 20 second shower. These guys usually snuck in an extra half mile on the warmdown to hit their log goal, and usually had to get back to their dorm right away to study engineering. They let loose maybe once per season, getting ridiculously trashed at team parties.

Other guys took it too far, sitting around reading shit, going from locker to locker talking trash, laying out on benches, and in one memorable case, eating a tuna fish sandwich, completely buck naked, almost luxuriating in their manhood. Most of these guys did pretty well with the ladies, as I recall, and often drank heavily on weeknights at local townie bars. They sometimes initiated interesting discussions, such as the relative merits of attending class commando-style, their favorite "nookie pants," and their perception of various ladies' preferences with regard to respective johnsons.



There was rarely any open package-checking, but once in a while, some big swinging dick would declare himself king of the johnsons and call out a particular dude for a faceoff. I don't recall any of these competitions ever getting off the ground, but there was generally money wagered, sides chosen up and lots of poiontless dick comments fired back and forth.

I fell somewhere in between, feeling pity for the dudes who were ashamed of their action, but wishing some of these other guys would pack it in from time to time. Nowadays, I basically change quickly in small stalls, usually in a hurry. I miss the locker room atmosphere, but upon reflection, its probably not because of the johnsons.


Now I'm in my 30's and haven't wandered around naked in front of other guys in a while, except for a trip to Europe, but that's different. I remember a July 4th barbecue with some bare-assed antics too, but there were chicks there, so I guess that doesn't count either. I'd welcome an old-timers day, I suppose, although I'd probably be more turned off by the guts involved, including my own,than anything else. I don't know what it means, but as I write this from my office, I bet my colleagues outside would be shocked by my bare-assed history and would think I was a bit freewheeling, which makes me somehow feel like I'm in the wrong job.

Sometimes I'll come out of the shower in my place and walk around without a towel, and then realize that the curtains are open and my neighbors can probably see. I'll feel a momentary embarassment and go for the blinds, but then I'll say the hell with it, this is my place and my johnson, so what do I care?





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Ex-Ivy,
Didn't I catch you hiding under the bench in the sauna of the men's locker room at Bally's last week.
You really WAX reminiscent about your old locker room.





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I have no problems with dudes walking around bare ass nekid. The ones that get me are those who bring their junk a little too close to you and/or others with changing and conversing. There are just certain levels of proper locker room decorum.





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rediculous... my god... if you cannot stand to see the guys' packages then don't look if you truely don't want. just cuz you see a guys wang doesn't mean that you're gay or that they are trying to make people uncomforatable by having it out. Our team walks around naked all the time and we just have a good laugh about it and don't think about it anymore. it makes for some good jokes and what not. get over your fear of being thought of as gay and rock out with your cock out


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naked communal showers make for more socially well-adjusted men. there is truly nothing to hide in this life, if not the johnson. if girls' teams had communal showers, maybe they wouldn't be such headcases. or maybe it would be worse.

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I agree... its sort of an equalizer. I notice that at communal poools in Europe.

Women would probably feel less insecure and uptight about their bodies if they hung out in locker room settings with lots of naked chicks. (Or maybe I just like the idea of it).


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yea, if they are naked 60 something year old men or women for that manner, it is an "old timer" thing... when they were our age (late teens and twenties) they walked around their locker rooms naked. the women on the other hand during that era probably did not, but I don't know. I don't know, but that is what my grandfather said and he is 80 and his dad taught him to wear a towel around the locker room because it was rude to have your junk exposed.

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Judging from the lenght of running "shorts" that most of you young guys weart ... none of this surprises me. All of you guys are riddled with "queer fear" ... get over it.





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Two points. One, we are living in the age when wearing shorts that are splits is akin to running around naked, and will get you beat up in places--people somehow got real uptight about these things, and we are in a real uptight time period in general. Two, maybe us older dudes are just more comfortable about nudity and our lumpy bodies in general--I mean, like I CARE what some 22 year old kid thinks of me? On the flipside, that 22 year old is still pretty damn close to the age when everything he does, think, or says is judged by his kiddie peers, and he better err on the safe side and cover up or else. But, I do agree about the thing about "personal space"--I don't want some dude's sweat on me, so watch where you're swinging that thing...lol.





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When I was in high school (last year), there was no such thing as a personal space bubble. The borderline between "funny because it's gay" and "bad because it's actually gay" was never reached. I was sitting on the floor tying my shoes one day and a naked teammate ran up to me and wiped his sweaty asscrack across my head like you would scan a credit card. Ah, the good old days.





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lovely dude. that's not gay, that's not funny. that's just down right disgusting.

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When I was in high school (last year), there was no such thing as a personal space bubble. The borderline between "funny because it's gay" and "bad because it's actually gay" was never reached. I was sitting on the floor tying my shoes one day and a naked teammate ran up to me and wiped his sweaty asscrack across my head like you would scan a credit card. Ah, the good old days.

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Something has been bugging me for quite some time, but I can't exactly bring up the subject with the culprits: What's with all the guys who resist wearing towels in the locker rooms of athletic clubs? I'm using the plural because, though I only belong to one club, I assume the phenomenon is widespread. I'm not a prude, but there's something really creepy about flabby 60-year-olds standing shaving/gabbing/strolling etc. buck naked when they could easily wrap towels around their waists.









Sorry to break this to you but yes you are a prude!




My theory, for what it's worth, is that many of these people have not participated in high school or college athletics, thereby learning a few important things about locker room etiquette. I ran track and xc in college not long ago, and everybody wore towels except, naturally, in the shower. There's just no reason to display your garbage to the world if you don't have to.





Your theory is wrong, back in the day we weren't so insecure as you obviously are and someone wearing a towel would have been rather strange. Certainly putting a towel on to go to the shower after XC or Rugby when you're covered in mud would have been crazy! Communal showering was usually a surprise when first encountered at about 12yo but everyone got over it fairly rapidly, clearly you didn't. The fact that you refer to it as 'garbage' clearly indicates a problem and I suggest counselling.





If you're one of the no-towel types, I'd like to hear why you do it.




Because showering naked is normal and being naked in a locker room is nothing to get hung up about!



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Well, at risk of unleashing Seinfeld "it shrinks?" jokes, I'm not looking all that manly after a long run. Or in the shower immediately after, for that matter. If I didn't wear a towel, I'd have to try to explain to all the non-runner gym rats that "it is all that it appears to be, and more!" despite, um, present post-run shrinkage. What do swimmers do?





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The solution to your problem in to do the yank of confidence before exiting the shower or dropping your towel completely. This will no only make you feel better and more confident than ever, it will make everyone else around you feel less sorry for you and your shriveled, undersized cock.





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I have a similar problem. Not braggin but Ive got a nine incher but I swear the f***er shrinks to like 2, 2 1/2 inches when Im not turned on. No lying. I dont have to be cold or anything, I just hang poorly when flacid. I sometimes think I should sport a woody in the shower just one time so as to shut up the snickers from teammates who dont know Im so well endowed but this would have its downsides too cause I aint a homo. Anyone else have such a big differential between the flacid and arouse states.





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Nahhh man it's cool to show off your package in the locker room. In fact, our team does a naked 400 every week. However, when that happens, girls come out and run too to see what all the fuss is about.


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When I was a Freshmen in high school we were in the go-between thing between guys and girls locker rooms and two naked guys (football players0 walked in totally naked. It was realy gross one was my brother's best friend they were seniors and we were only Freshmen. Guys who walk around naked in locker rooms must be gay, me and my friends could never look at them again without laughing.


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I like to shower in the locker room and keep my eye out for guys that are obviously uncomfortable with nakedness, then i put my towel over my shoulders and walk up to them and talk to them. even better if they are sitting on the bench, puts their eyeline right at ball height. during the convo they are all squirmy and uncomfortable and dont know where to look, its great, everyone who is comfortable in the locker room should do this.
The origonal poster of this thread is one of those guys who wears his towel, then pulls his whitey tighties up underneath it. how sad.

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Prudes indeed. I take a dump - wipe my ass - show the used toilet paper to my team and the next thing you know they say I was harrassing them. Getting naked, shitting together and watching German Poop tapes this is the stuff of Champions.





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During my first couple years at UB we (the mens team) had an unspoken rule about nakedness in the locker room. There was none! With only one exception though. The biggest, baddest distance runner on the team (George) could go without the fig leave. Why? Because if you said anything to him about his exposer he would jump you, and wrestle you to the ground buck naked! Very disturbing!




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the mormons at my high school wear towels around them WHEN showering in the locker rooms. it's kinda funny, cuz then they grab their clothes and go into the bathroom stalls w/ the locks on them and change into their clothes so no one can see them w/ their clothes off. I on the other hand take off everything and eat breakfast while taking my shower. it feels good, and i don't care if they see me, it's not like they've never seen something like it before. Plus after 8 miles at 5 AM, I don't really care what you think about me.





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So you're saying we should just f*** that 60 year old man in the ass in front of his kids?





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I think an earlier poster hit it on the head. I'm 51. when I was in Junior High, we were told we all had to shower after gym class. Now I see kids on the high school teams go into stalls to change into their shorts. When my dad brought me to the Y for the first time, I couldn't believe everyone swam naked. Same thing at the old North End Boys Club.

And yes, how about a little title nine enforcement on the girls shower situation. Why they had individual stalls and we had the prison camp setting can't be good for their self image.

It is truly weird that today's youth are so sexually liberated, promiscuous at a very young age, and yet so hung up on their bodies. Splain that to me Lucy.





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"I like to shower in the locker room and keep my eye out for guys that are obviously uncomfortable with nakedness, then i put my towel over my shoulders and walk up to them and talk to them. even better if they are sitting on the bench, puts their eyeline right at ball height. during the convo they are all squirmy and uncomfortable and dont know where to look, its great, everyone who is comfortable in the locker room should do this.
The original poster of this thread is one of those guys who wears his towel, then pulls his whitey tighties up underneath it. how sad."

We had a guy on the team and I will never forgett this. He would do the above exactly. Walk up to a Freshmen who was very uncomfortable. He would walk up towel on head put lean up against the lockers with his junk a fott from there head and say "listen John a couple of upper classman have been getting together, we have been talking (we think you are a hard worker, we really like your attitude, all serious stuff and finish with)we all think you have got a really nice cock. It was hilarious. The reaction was priceless.






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One older European man did come up to the roof, and oggled me while I showered naked, but he didn't linger. Knowing that I can be spied on by people (men) in the surrounding buildings is certainly stimulating. I did get involved in a 4-5 person orgy and ended up fucking the ass of two different guys who wanted as many cocks up their butts as possible.


One of the guys watching me plow their assholes was a younger Japanese guy who let me clutch his hand while he bent over behind me and looked at my cock stuffing the guy's anus.


Later, while I was getting sucked while standing beside of the bunk beds by a 30-something Japanese dude I have 'encountered' several times at 24K, that same young guy who watched the butt-fucking. He let me kiss him and grope him so he and I ended up climbing into the top bunk and having a long and intense session. He loved being rimmed and having his hole fingered. Eventually, he came with me stuffing fingers up his ass.








See our Facebook page: Ii Otoko Da https://www.facebook.com/iiotokoda/ (a social network page on Facebook for guys into the beauty and erotic nature of the Asian male).


You can also have look at one of my other explicit blogs: http://otoko-gay.blogspot.com


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Note: Photo above has nothing to do with this post - I just liked it it reminds me of me (when I was a
bit younger talking with friend on a gay nude beach, Black's Beach, San Diego) -- often the naked person looks so dour and serious. This guy is certainly enjoying himself and even (perhaps - although I never would) forgetting the fact that he's unclothed in front of his clothed buddy. I hope you can share the laugh, too.





I recently went to 24 Kaikan in Shinjuku (Tokyo) yesterday afternoon and stayed to nearly midnight. I guess there were lots of guys out because it always gets festive and a bit wild around a Japanese holiday (it's not a holiday - but feels like one since the new fiscal year (new work year (and new employees) and schools start their academic years this week).


So a even an natural event like cherry blossoms being in full bloom prompts an activity known as 'hanami' or 'sakura-viewing' (cherry blossom viewing) and that's a good excuse for people to stroll under them - day and night - and also have picnics under or near the cherry trees where there is always alcoholic drinking as part of the festivities.



I guess too the warmer weather makes everyone hornier because hormones are flowing. Note: When I was out with my friend, Mogi, on Saturday for 'hanami', I can't tell you have many stiff semi erect cocks I saw in guys' pants as we strolled along the sidewalks or made our way through the crowds of weekend shoppers. I just KNEW something was in the air!




When I arrived at 24 Kaikan, I changed and got naked and proceeded to lay out on the roof top of the 7 story building. It is a sundeck and there is a partially enclosed shower stall. You are not supposed to be naked there (posted NO FULL NUDITY).. but I always try to do so -- perhaps clandestinely - but no always discreetly (LOL). There was not any action there - but for me, being naked in public always stimulates my hormones and makes what it better once I descend to the lower floors in search of raw sex with horny Japanese men.
 

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Well, thank you Fred! For those who are interested, here is my memory of youth hostelling.


If you wanted to travel when I was a teenager, it was either unaffordable - and lonely - hotel rooms or it was youth hostels, which were cheap and always had people to talk to. I stayed in numerous youth hostels in Britain, Germany, Austria, Italy and Israel. No two were alike. They might be a 16-bedded farmhouse in the middle of nowhere or a huge city building with dorms each holding 100. A hot shower was a luxury only some offered; at other hostels it might be a cold-water morning wash from a basin. There were chores to be done. At one mountain hostel I had to go out and gather wood so in the evening we could huddle around a welcome fire with only gas lanterns to take us to bed.



A real feeling of camaraderie could build up. Strangers became fast friends, particularly if they met up again at another hostel later on. When I was 17, I hitch-hiked up to Scotland and found myself constantly bumping into a handsome dark-haired French lad of the same age. His name was Thierry and he wanted to be a brain surgeon. One evening I persuaded him and a girl to go for a walk in the forest outside our Scottish castle hostel. I still remember the intense look he gave me and the feeling of his hand on my shoulder but we were not alone, nothing happened and we never met again.


I am not sure why you were told all Americans slept nude because that was not my experience of Americans in youth hostels. I slept nude and so did some of the others in the male dorms but most seemed to wear what we in Britain call y-fronts. These did not hide much when it was time to get up, with morning erections producing tent poles. Lying on a bottom bunk, I would find it difficult not to laugh when the top bunk occupant clambered down, his tented underwear only inches from my face. I always preferred the top bunk to sleep naked.......








The oddest thing about the dorms was the casual nudity. Because we as strangers got to know each other so quickly, we would carry on conversations in the dorm. I remember in Italy a young cyclist with a pleasant but not handsome face getting undressed while talking to me, only for this ugly duckling to turn into a swan. He was hiding a spectacular swimmer's muscled physique. He then stood there naked and full-frontal until he had finished what he wanted to tell me.


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My most eye-popping experience of youth hostel nudity came when I was backpacking around Israel. I was staying next to the Dead Sea, alone in a long line of

inter-connected communal showers after a sticky day on a bus through the West Bank. Suddenly the shower room was invaded by a dozen American 16 year-olds looking very fit in their white towels. These were quickly discarded and it became clear they were far more dirty than me, covered in mud from a caving expedition. They were full of excited chatter about the events of the day. I was unsure where to look. With difficulty, I averted my gaze and got back to washing myself. Until that is I was aware of three of them crowding around and almost touching me. Please could I tell them how to turn the showers on, they had never seen a faucet like these. So I had to give them a demonstration. A testing time!



The attached pictures try to convey some of this. A few of the hostels could be old and basic, like the first photo, others might be more comfortable like the second. The third image illustrates the camaraderie. The fourth an impression of what it was like huddled together in those open showers.






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The oddest thing about the dorms was the casual nudity. Because we as strangers got to know each other so quickly, we would carry on conversations in the dorm. I remember in Italy a young cyclist with a pleasant but not handsome face getting undressed while talking to me, only for this ugly duckling to turn into a swan. He was hiding a spectacular swimmer's muscled physique. He then stood there naked and full-frontal until he had finished what he wanted to tell me.



My most eye-popping experience of youth hostel nudity came when I was backpacking around Israel. I was staying next to the Dead Sea, alone in a long line of

inter-connected communal showers after a sticky day on a bus through the West Bank. Suddenly the shower room was invaded by a dozen American 16 year-olds looking very fit in their white towels. These were quickly discarded and it became clear they were far more dirty than me, covered in mud from a caving expedition. They were full of excited chatter about the events of the day. I was unsure where to look. With difficulty, I averted my gaze and got back to washing myself. Until that is I was aware of three of them crowding around and almost touching me. Please could I tell them how to turn the showers on, they had never seen a faucet like these. So I had to give them a demonstration. A testing time!



The attached pictures try to convey some of this. A few of the hostels could be old and basic, like the first photo, others might be more comfortable like the second.





The third image illustrates the camaaderie. The fourth an impression of what it was like huddled together in those open showers.


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On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:03 +0200, "Fred Stein" <fredstein3@hotmail.com> wrote:



Bring back happy memories. I was very young in the early 70´s - before the interrail - lifting around Europe - living in Youth Hostels! In a way when the world still was innocent for a young man. Think of some stories but probably a bit off-topic - f.i. how I was taught that all Americans sleep nude (at the Youth Hostel in Hannover) .... I would love to hear stories from your days meeting guys a bit more simple as today...
Sorry for my English - not my native language ....




Same experience here, Atitlan. I traveled much of Europe via International Youth Hostel Association. In more cases than not, the hostels were reasonably modern with large dorm areas -- a dozen or more sleeping areas in a room. Even those which were older, and re-structured from former usages (large homes, etc.) had shared accommodation with "total strangers". Nudity -- and by that, I mean, non-sexual and comfortable nudity -- was common: changing clothing, sleeping, showering and traveling to-from the showers. Conversations like, "I have 60 Swedish kroner. They're worth just a little more than a French franc. I'm leaving early in the morning on the ferry and won't be able to get to a bank. Do you have enough francs to exchange for me?" were conducted nude, and the exchange made.
Admittedly, this was in the 1960's and 70's. It was definitely a "different time" from today's common "shame in nudity".
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For those who are interested, here are our members' memories of youth hostelling, and the joys of naked boys on road or rail trips.


[ Note from Kelly (sunbuns), blog editor: The stories below are from email group exchanges on the YMNA, Young Men's Nudist Association, a Google group. The longest ones are written by David or atitlan, moderator of the group. I also have written many times about this topic, and find the situations one encounters in hostels to be wonderful ways to get to know people and find out things about oneself in the process. ]





If you wanted to travel when I was a teenager, it was either unaffordable - and lonely - hotel rooms or it was youth hostels, which were cheap and always had people to talk to. I stayed in numerous youth hostels in Britain, Germany, Austria, Italy and Israel. No two were alike. They might be a 16-bedded farmhouse in the middle of nowhere or a huge city building with dorms each holding 100. A hot shower was a luxury only some offered; at other hostels it might be a cold-water morning wash from a basin. There were chores to be done. At one mountain hostel I had to go out and gather wood so in the evening we could huddle around a welcome fire with only gas lanterns to take us to bed.




A real feeling of camaraderie could build up. Strangers became fast friends, particularly if they met up again at another hostel later on. When I was 17, I hitch-hiked up to Scotland and found myself constantly bumping into a handsome dark-haired French lad of the same age. His name was Thierry and he wanted to be a brain surgeon. One evening I persuaded him and a girl to go for a walk in the forest outside our Scottish castle hostel. I still remember the intense look he gave me and the feeling of his hand on my shoulder but we were not alone, nothing happened and we never met again.




I am not sure why you were told all Americans slept nude because that was not my experience of Americans in youth hostels. I slept nude and so did some of the others in the male dorms but most seemed to wear what we in Britain call y-fronts. These did not hide much when it was time to get up, with morning erections producing tent poles. Lying on a bottom bunk, I would find it difficult not to laugh when the top bunk occupant clambered down, his tented underwear only inches from my face. I always preferred the top bunk to sleep naked.......

 




I got a hold of it and hung there, fully stretched out soeverything was showing. Then I lifted my legs and hooked them over the limb, kinda spread out so that my asshole was in full view. I think I even tried to pucker it a little. After hanging like that a bit, I swung up and started climbing, making sure I stopped a little every time I was fully stretched out or spread out. I also had to scoot along some of the limbs, dragging my balls and bottom along the rough bark. I sure couldn't get dressed up in the tree, so as I reached each article of clothing, I dropped them on the ground.







When everything was on the ground, (I was at the highest point



in the tree), I started to (slowly) work my way down, again stopping every so often and spreading my legs. I finally got down to the last limb and swung down, again holding on and hanging there as long as I could. When I dropped down, I "stumbled" and fell over backwards with my legs going up over my head. Then I got up and started getting dressed. And not one of them took his eyes off me until I finally pulled up my pants.

 
I went back the next day, almost 2
hours earlier. I had a 2 "choker" dog collars that were chains with rings at either end. You would slip the chain through one of the rings and form a loop that was supposed to go over the dog's head, and when he pulled on the leash too much, the chain would kinda choke him, making him slack off. Well, if you put on hand through the loop and then made another loop at the other end and put your other hand through, your hands were pretty effectively "chained" together. If you had the right size chain, it could be really difficult to get it off, especially if your hands were chained behind your back.







Anyhow, I got to the clearing and found a tree that had branches low enough that I could jump up, grab it and start climbing. I took all my clothes off. I put my socks in my shoes and tied them together, and threw them up into the tree. They caught on a branch about 12 feet up. I tied my jeans in a knot and wrapped them around a rock and then threw them as high as I could. They caught on a branch almost 20 feet up. Then I did the same with my T shirt. It wound up just above my shoes.




My underpants were next. I wrapped them around a rock and threw them as high as I could. They caught on a branch just above my jeans.? I was now totally naked with all my clothes up in a tree. ?? I had given a lot of thought as to how I would chain myself, so as to give myself maximum "exposure".







If I just chained my hands behind my back, I could bend over or

kneel down and keep myself covered, and of course, that would not do. I wanted to be fully exposed when the scouts came by. So I decided I would chain myself to another tree. I also figured out that if I just wrapped my arms around the tree, only my bare bottom would be exposed. So I figured out that if I got on my hands and knees, backed up to the tree and fastened my ankles
together around the tree, then leaned back and chained my wrists behind me and around the tree, I would be a kneeling position and fully exposed , with no hope of covering any part of me. So I backed up to the tree.​
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I told them some guys had caught me riding my bike and

pantsed me, and then threw all my clothes in the tree. All this time they just stood there and looked at me, most of them smiling and snickering. I also noticed that a couple of them were getting woodies, seeing me naked and chained like that. And being the only one there that was naked and chained to a tree with a bunch of older boys staring at me was getting me excited too, and my dick started to get hard too. They finally got me loose, and when I started to stand up I kinda stumbled from being chained up like that for so long, and 2 of them grabbed my arms to help hold me up.






Wow! Two older guys, fully clothed and me naked, holding me up. (one of them had his hand on my bottom) With 12 other guys looking at me. By this time I had a full hard on. Just couldn't help it. I was so excited. The best was yet to come. Nobody offered to get my clothes out of the tree, so that meant I was going to have to climb the tree, totally naked, with all 14 boys watching me. I walked over to the tree, and turned around so that I was facing them. I jumped up and tried to grab the lowest limb, but I couldn't reach it. After trying a couple times, with my dick flopping up and down with each try, two of them came over and held their hands cupped together so I could stand on them and they could boost me up and grab the limb.
 

A certain kind of CMNM experience


This experience was originally posted by Bill Williams to another group. It was subsequently distributed on the Thorngay Yahoo group mailiing list on January 27, 2008. It represents one boy's sexual development (into manhood) that is heavily centered about being exposed to other males, particularly in situations of helplessness (an important sub-theme for some CMNM enthusiasts NOTE: the photos were added (by this author: sunbunz - since Bill did not (and could NOT (LOL) provide his own).
[From thorngay Y! Group]

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I first realized I was an exhibitionist at a very early age, even tho I did not know what the word meant. I started out running out the back door and around a tree in the back yard in just my underpants. I don't know if it was the exhibitionist in me coming out, or if it just felt good running around like that, or just because it was "naughty". ?? Of course, I progressed to doing the same thing completely naked, and I really liked doing



that; something more daring? I would sneak into my sister's room once in awhile, when nobody was home, and would put on some of her underpants and walk around the house that way. I even swiped a diaper off the neighbor's clothesline and would put that on, sometimes walking outside wearing just the diaper. Pretty soon tho, that became "old stuff", and I wanted to do something else, something more daring!



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There was a forest preserve about a mile from my house, that had a river running through it. During the day, there was hardly anyone in the park, just 1 or 2 people fishing sometimes. I would ride over there, go behind some bushes and take off my pants and underpants, and ride along the path wearing just a long T shirt. That was really neat, especially when I would meet someone on the path and have to really be careful not to stand up and show that I didn't have anything on under my T shirt. I had some really close calls, but that just made it more fun.




I progressed to riding my bike home like that, especially in the early evening. Sometimes, just as it was getting dark and just as a car was passing me, I would stand up, baring my butt just as the car passed me. That, too, soon got to be old stuff. Then I got the idea that it would be really neat if someone would see me totally naked. I guess that is when I progressed from being a little nudist to a full fledged exhibitionist. I would go near the end of the woods near the highway, take off all my clothes and walk along a path, jumping into the bushes if I though I heard someone coming. (Never saw anyone, tho). Then I would turn back, go right to the edge of the trees and when I saw a

bunch
of cars coming, I would run across the clearing, stark naked, until I was sure they saw me, then back in to the woods, get my clothes, get dressed, and go home.​







One day I saw a school bus with a bunch of kids going to camp or something, and when I was in the middle of the clearing, totally naked, I heard them shouting and laughing, and I knew a whole bus load of kids had seen me naked. I was so excited I could hardly sleep that night.That' s when it really started to get interesting. And I evolved into the "liking to be laughed at and humiliated" state of my life.







There was a Boy Scout Camp in the forest preserve, pretty far back in. One day, I was riding my bike along a path, (completely dressed for a change), when I ran into, (almost literally), a group of them hiking along the path. They were all a little older than me. An idea began forming in the back of my head. I went back the next day, and sure enough, the scouts came along at almost the same time. I scouted (no pun intended), along the path and found a clearing that had a bunch of tall trees, some with low hanging branches, about 6 feet off the ground.
 
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[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]After we moved there and my mom and step dad starting going dancing on Saturday nights, I started to get naked outside again. At first I'd just stroll the back yard naked at night. Later, I went out dressed and walked around through the whole field behind the school. I was able to see that from a distance, no one would ever see me naked in my backyard, it was so dark. The school, though, had plenty of lights all around it. I did find a few pockets in between the school building and some portable classrooms that were very dark and I was able to strip there and hang naked. It was so hot to see cars or people in the distance doing their thing while I sat naked outside in a public place stroking my dick. [/FONT][/FONT]




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[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]We lived at that house throughout my high school years. The autumn after I graduated, we moved to the house that my parents live in. The backyard is fenced in with a tall wood fence on all three sides. Back then, we had an above-ground pool, too. When my parents would go out, of course I'd skinny dip in the pool. I'd walk around naked by the fence that has a street behind it. I'd enjoy walking naked next to it at night as cars would pass. I had already tested that out by checking out the other side of the fence and although lights from the car headlights might penetrate the fence, passersby would never outright see me. It still a thrill to lean naked against the wood slats as cars would come by wondering if they saw my lily white ass. [/FONT][/FONT]




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[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]For a couple of years, I moved out and lived with my Dad. I was really busy working full time and going to college. I commuted to a school that as thirty miles away each day. During that time, there's wasn't much naked stuff going on. The only chance I had to do anything was at school. Sometimes, I'd strip naked in a bathroom stall and jack off in between classes. [/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]In my final year of college, I moved out alone into my own apartment. That was the late 90's and the dawn of the internet. Once I got the internet, I started reading stories of exhibitionists that supposedly did all kinds of things naked like washing their car at a car wash, getting gas, running into a convenience store naked late at night, etc. I didn't believe them all until I later found sites with photos. Then I knew that I had to try similar things. [/FONT][/FONT]




[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]I started with small stuff like going to the carwash on rainy days or very early on Sundays. The one near me had business across from it and didn't face a main road. I'd get in my car and pretend to clean it out. I'd eventually get totally naked in the back of front seat and jack off. I didn't get out of the car naked...that would come later. [/FONT][/FONT]




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[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]I started doing things late at night like at around 3am. Sometimes, I'd walk to the apartment mail boxes to get my mail in just a really baggy t-shirt and tennis shoes. Later I went as far as to leave my place like that and get in my car and go for a drive. Once on the road, off went the shirt. There's nothing like driving down the road, windows open, warm night air on your dick and balls... [/FONT][/FONT]




[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]After a few times doing that type of drive, I drove through a small rural area with no homes. It was Autumn and slightly chilly at night. I stopped on the side of the road and decided to walk a bit. I'd have plenty of warning if a car came. Once I stepped out onto the warm payment, it felt like a electrical current went through my feet to my dick. I started to jack off and came in seconds. At that point, I was hooked forever on jacking naked outside for sure. [/FONT][/FONT]




[FONT=&quot;helvetica&quot;][FONT=&quot]From that point on until now, which is 13 years later, I've had dozens and dozens of public jacking experiences. I'd like to write more parts to this history based on themes (car washes, washeterias, etc) and particular hot scenes. There's so many I've forgotten, but writing about one reminds me of another. These are true stories and might be exciting to some of you, lame to others. [/FONT][/FONT]


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