Supernatural / Jensen Ackles / Jared Padelecki [merged]

[falconfan]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I wasn't really into this episode. Just wasn't feeling it. It was like a break from continuity.

See I think that's what modern dramas have done to the market. We expect them to just follow one after another like acts in a season long play. They've extracted the episodic part out of episodic dramas. I like that it's not one uberlong, uberdraining, clusterfuck that's more concerned wiht making you says "WOW!" and less concerned with entertaining.

So I guess what I"m trying to say is that's what I kinda like about these little side steps. They doing break with the 'continuity' of the show.

 

[neoachilles]

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^^I know what you mean. You could think of it like a parergon of some Greek hero--just a little side adventure. It might not necessarily be germane to the main plot, but it doesn't really hurt the continuity. Besides, the world may be coming to an end, but that doesn't mean that the other baddies out there have called it quits.

*side note: The scene with the delivery boy was so funny.

 

[aijalon18]

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I generally like standalone episodes but I lost interest so much that I couldnt even finish it. That has never happened before. I really liked the GhostFacers episode, which i know a lot of people hated, but this one totally bored me. They have to break it up but I wished they would have went somewhere else with it.

 

[LiquidSky]

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I haven't watched last night's episode yet but finally got caught up with the 2 previous episodes.

Dean Van Halen

 

[falconfan]

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I generally like standalone episodes but I lost interest so much that I couldnt even finish it. That has never happened before. I really liked the GhostFacers episode, which i know a lot of people hated, but this one totally bored me. They have to break it up but I wished they would have went somewhere else with it.

I do know what you mean to some extent. I mean it was UBER campy and can get where you were like OK I get the concept already. I mean they clearly had some ubercheesey old timey horror moviesque lines as well. And I was not a fan of them pawning it off on a shapeshifter. It seemed like a week answer. But for what it was worth I laughed alot andd I think htey knew how to play into their campy setting for the episode.

 

[falconfan]

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Well all and all I think it was a typical Edlund episode. Ben Edlund is the writer who tends to handle SPN's lighter fare (He wrote Ghostefacers, Bad Day at Black Rock and Hollywood Babylon among others). So I really think it was along line with those. Of course they very a bit in quality. It does seem as if they came up with the monster movie concept first and then tried to find something to fit it. I mean I think if you were going to do an episode in this vein reviving the Trickster would be the best bet but he tends to come with some greater message so they couldn't really use him.

 

[falconfan]

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I actually thought that was how it was going to turn out at first. The shapeshifter was just a convenient plot device.

Yeah I thought for sure it would be the Trickster simply because he wasn't mentioned. Then I remembered Dean may not know he's still alive. And that gave me even more reason to think it should be him because it could play off teh communication rift they've been dealing with.

 

[neoachilles]

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So tonight's episode was another filler. It wasn't too bad; Jensen certainly had his moments, especially at the very end. Oh my god, I loved that little bonus treat they threw in for us.

 

[falconfan]

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So tonight's episode was another filler. It wasn't too bad; Jensen certainly had his moments, especially at the very end. Oh my god, I loved that little bonus treat they threw in for us.

LOL I read about this before the episode. One take Jared decided not to come in and give him the cue to see how long he'd go.

Jensen is adorable

Episode was good. Nothing amazing. Kinda thought it was silly to have them pull a ghost down the road.

 

[aijalon18]

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I loved Jensen's dance number at the end but all in all not too great of an episode even for filler. But it was funny seeing Dean being such a wimp. It was a million times better than that mess from last week.

It's weird though. This is one of my favorite shows and it used to keep me on the edge of my seat but these last 2 have barely kept my attention. I've been tivo'ing and fast forwarding so much of it.

 

[falconfan]

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I loved Jensen's dance number at the end but all in all not too great of an episode even for filler. But it was funny seeing Dean being such a wimp. It was a million times better than that mess from last week.

It's weird though. This is one of my favorite shows and it used to keep me on the edge of my seat but these last 2 have barely kept my attention. I've been tivo'ing and fast forwarding so much of it.

I think the writer really over did this one. They just kept throwing so many one liners about Dean's fear that the really good ones got lost in the clutter.

And I LOVE uncomfortable Dean. It's just so out of character so it becomes fucking hillarious and Jensen is great at it. That scene from "Phantom Traveler" is still one of my favorite ones in the whole series.

 

[Steely]

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I freaking loved last night's episode. It is definitely one of my favorites, if not the favorite. Dean was hilarious. The girl scream and the "That was scary!" afterwards (the way he said it was priceless), running from a cute little dog in a pink bow, and him just freaking out. It was so weird watching him worry and get frightened. He kind of reminded me of Monk. And of course the Eye of the Tiger ending. I loved it.

 

[StlKj]

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I loved the last two episodes. I like it when they get cheesy sometimes. Week after week of intensity just gets draining after a while.

Jensen's Eye of the Tiger bit was classic, but his portrayal of a scared Dean was the best.

"Am I haunted???"

Amen, Baby. I feel the same way. I love these guys, and every time they cry I just want to scoop them up and hug them, but damn, the last two seasons have just been so heavy. My favorite show of all time, as you know, is Buffy, but one of the things I thought was unfortunate was that BTVS became all about the characters' lives and angst in the last few seasons, and it abandoned the story lines where they actually helped people.

There's a fine line between exploring your characters' lives as they do their job, and just indulging their self-involvement to the point where they no longer do the job. Thankfully, the Supernatural folks are avoiding that happening at this point.

OMG, I almost wet myself when Dean screamed at the cat in the locker and then self-consciously said "wow, that was scary!"


Jensen Ackles just melts my heart.

 

[falconfan]

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MAJOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT

In his official statement, Eric Kripke says: "Dean is not a dick. None of the writers, or anyone on the creative team of Supernatural, think Dean's ever been a dick, past, present, or future. He's a hero. Dean did NOT contract the ghost sickness because he's a dick. Victims contract the illness because they use 'fear as a weapon.' Dean asks Lilith at the episode's end, 'why did I get infected?' And she cryptically responds, 'you know why. Listen to your heart.' We,as the writers, probably should have emphasized this mystery more, I take responsibility for that omission. But the point is: the reason he was infected is because of a SECRET he's keeping. A dark secret that will be revealed in Episode 10. And not at all because of any dickishness, implied or otherwise."

(full article here http://www.buddytv.com/articles/supernatural/supernatural-creator-to-fans-d-23929.aspx)

 

[falconfan]

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Yes but I think more importantly we have to ask ourselves what dark secret does Dean have that involves him using fear as a weapon?

Before the series began? While he was in hell?

They've got me. I'm really clueless here.

 

[falconfan]

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I know. I'm going "What?? What secret??"

Guess we'll find out soon enough. Maybe it is something that Dean learned when he went back in time and was face to face with the Yellow Eyed Demon?

It would have to be something Dean DID which could be construed as him using fear as a weapon. Which means whatever it is has to have happened when we weren't watching (ie in hell or pre-pilot).

 

[falconfan]

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I didn't actually consider the possibility that that was something important.

I just assumed it was referring to his personality and how he's kind of the loud-mouthed brother, always intimidating people to get information, etc.

Well neither did I but when the series creator says... "the reason he was infected is because of a SECRET he's keeping. A dark secret that will be revealed in Episode 10."

It kinda makes me think maybe there's an important dark secret being kept lol

 

[falconfan]

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Oops I totally missed the post where you said that x_x

That's interesting.

But it also feels too similar with what they did between Dean and Bloody Mary back in season 1.

The concept of one character having a secret is far to broad to be "too similar" to anything. The similarity may arise in the way they bring it out.

 

[falconfan]

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I meant as in -

In Bloody Mary, Dean gets affected by the curse and the writers say it's because he has a 'big secret' that we'll find out later.

And in the latest episode, Dean gets affected by another curse and again we're told it's because he has a big secret.

I Bloody Mary Sam (not Dean) was attacked by the demon because it considered him a murderer (attributing Jessica's death to him). The spirit of Bloody Mary attacked murders who had gotten away with their crime in hopes of bringing them to justice. That's notably different than Dean being affected because he held some yet to be known secret.

 

[falconfan]

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Dean was attacked by Mary too.

I'm only saying it's similar because the way in which the writers put both of these small details into the episodes (that a lot of people missed) and then later made a statement about it

I understand where you'd say they're similar but I dont' think they're overly similar. Dean's interactions with Bloody Mary was strictly a by-product of defending Sam much in the way Sam dealt with the ghost in Yellow Fever. Also there was no looming secret on the tail of Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary came out and blamed Sam of forseeing Jessica's death (while Dean was distracted). Therein it was much more of an expose than a seed for suspense. True Dean didn't know but the audience did which is a HUGE difference between the two. This is meant as a teaser to US not the characters.