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Supernatural / Jensen Ackles / Jared Padelecki [merged]
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Re: Supernatural's back, baby!
Jensen really did a excellent work in the end
The last scene is just wow
I like the epi too
At this part of the season i love how they mix the whole good/bad evil/angels
The help coming from Ruby a demon and the angels as the antagonist or the bad guys
It just make me thought even more than there are something more behind Ruby's intentions and that she's not good.
I'm not really a fan of Cortese either even if i find her a little better in this epi
One month and half waiting will be long for sure
Jensen really did a excellent work in the end
The last scene is just wow
I like the epi too
At this part of the season i love how they mix the whole good/bad evil/angels
The help coming from Ruby a demon and the angels as the antagonist or the bad guys
It just make me thought even more than there are something more behind Ruby's intentions and that she's not good.
I'm not really a fan of Cortese either even if i find her a little better in this epi
One month and half waiting will be long for sure
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just finally caught up on the last 3 shows this weekend, and all i can say is WOW!!! i was kinda hesitant about the whole "angels" things, but now i'm absolutely HOOKED!!! Jared and Jensen have both been putting in really solid performances this season, but Jensen just nailed his scenes in this weeks closer. it is going to SUCK, waiting until January for new episodes!!!
just finally caught up on the last 3 shows this weekend, and all i can say is WOW!!! i was kinda hesitant about the whole "angels" things, but now i'm absolutely HOOKED!!! Jared and Jensen have both been putting in really solid performances this season, but Jensen just nailed his scenes in this weeks closer. it is going to SUCK, waiting until January for new episodes!!!
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i loved the episode too. My only criticism is Sam's lack of concern for Ruby's well-being. We know they had sex at least once so it seems strange that Sam isnt that nice to her. When she was nearly killed by Uriel Dean had to save her and when she was tortured and and still in rough shape to help them he didnt seem to care at all. It seems very uncharacteristic of him because he is the emotional one. I'm not saying he should be putting rosepetals in her bath but, arent they friends at least?
i loved the episode too. My only criticism is Sam's lack of concern for Ruby's well-being. We know they had sex at least once so it seems strange that Sam isnt that nice to her. When she was nearly killed by Uriel Dean had to save her and when she was tortured and and still in rough shape to help them he didnt seem to care at all. It seems very uncharacteristic of him because he is the emotional one. I'm not saying he should be putting rosepetals in her bath but, arent they friends at least?
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It's a valid poin but I understand the reasoning for both.
1.) You have to remember that the opening sequence was coming right off last weeks episode, which was primarily about Dean and Sam arguing over Ruby's role. I think the writers wanted Dean to be the one to step in and defend her simply as a sign that Dean is coming around to the idea of accepting Ruby and to show that he truly feels indebted to her for her treatment/protection of Sam. Also when it comes to dealing with ANYONE Dean's always the more careless one, the one more likely to act without thinking purely on emotion. When you compound this with the fact that it was the angels, who Dean is more comfortable/familiar around then Sam it does make sense that he'd be the one to intervene.
2.) I think that largely was just a result of the SURPRISE they did it together element. All three of them were very... shrug who cares after... I personally didn't like that twist period. I didn't have anything against them working together but I think as a surprise it fell flat... or maybe I just still want Ruby to be evil.
It's a valid poin but I understand the reasoning for both.
1.) You have to remember that the opening sequence was coming right off last weeks episode, which was primarily about Dean and Sam arguing over Ruby's role. I think the writers wanted Dean to be the one to step in and defend her simply as a sign that Dean is coming around to the idea of accepting Ruby and to show that he truly feels indebted to her for her treatment/protection of Sam. Also when it comes to dealing with ANYONE Dean's always the more careless one, the one more likely to act without thinking purely on emotion. When you compound this with the fact that it was the angels, who Dean is more comfortable/familiar around then Sam it does make sense that he'd be the one to intervene.
2.) I think that largely was just a result of the SURPRISE they did it together element. All three of them were very... shrug who cares after... I personally didn't like that twist period. I didn't have anything against them working together but I think as a surprise it fell flat... or maybe I just still want Ruby to be evil.
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Dean's life on earth has been 20+ years of hell if you actually think about it the pattern of his life is just horrible horrible things happening around him constantly and most frequently the very worst things happen to the few people he cares most about. It's horribly depressing and why he was an atheist. It's also the reason why he's the same... his entire life has been an act. His personality, his tough guy, hard-ass, machoness has always been an act to please his macho father and hide a truly wounded child, this much was apparent as early as "Dead in the Water." It only make sense for him to try all the harder to be this tough guy coming off this trauma. Dean is the type of person who hides their wounds and fears (It's why the smart ass comments always fly fastest in face of true trauma/danger) and he'd be working time and half to seem like he's fine.
The writers have made it very apparent that he's struggling to hide and repress his trauma, peppering in flashbacks since the beginning of the season.
Dean's life on earth has been 20+ years of hell if you actually think about it the pattern of his life is just horrible horrible things happening around him constantly and most frequently the very worst things happen to the few people he cares most about. It's horribly depressing and why he was an atheist. It's also the reason why he's the same... his entire life has been an act. His personality, his tough guy, hard-ass, machoness has always been an act to please his macho father and hide a truly wounded child, this much was apparent as early as "Dead in the Water." It only make sense for him to try all the harder to be this tough guy coming off this trauma. Dean is the type of person who hides their wounds and fears (It's why the smart ass comments always fly fastest in face of true trauma/danger) and he'd be working time and half to seem like he's fine.
The writers have made it very apparent that he's struggling to hide and repress his trauma, peppering in flashbacks since the beginning of the season.
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I'm kinda agree with you. For me she is still evil
Since a few episodes angels and everything who was suppose to help seems to be the bad guys and Ruby who is a demon are like their only help
For the second part of the season or the end i'm waiting more for something like "we are wrong all the way"
I think Castiel are right and Dean and Sam don't see the whole picture.
I usually don't like going that way and i don't know if you watched Buffy but last epi remind me a little the season 7.
In season 5 Buffy refuse the sacrifice her sister for saving the world and died
In season 7 when she finally "understand" her mission, Giles asked her if she would had made things different and she answered "yes she would have sacrifice Dawn.
Anyway for coming back to Ruby, i think she totally know how Sam will end if he keep going using his power and this is exactly what she wants.
And if i'm not a big fan of evil Sam the most funny if he end up bad is that he would be the one who kill her!!!!lmao
I'm kinda agree with you. For me she is still evil
Since a few episodes angels and everything who was suppose to help seems to be the bad guys and Ruby who is a demon are like their only help
For the second part of the season or the end i'm waiting more for something like "we are wrong all the way"
I think Castiel are right and Dean and Sam don't see the whole picture.
I usually don't like going that way and i don't know if you watched Buffy but last epi remind me a little the season 7.
In season 5 Buffy refuse the sacrifice her sister for saving the world and died
In season 7 when she finally "understand" her mission, Giles asked her if she would had made things different and she answered "yes she would have sacrifice Dawn.
Anyway for coming back to Ruby, i think she totally know how Sam will end if he keep going using his power and this is exactly what she wants.
And if i'm not a big fan of evil Sam the most funny if he end up bad is that he would be the one who kill her!!!!lmao
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Well Castiel and Ruby are parallel characters. Castiel is Dean's Ruby just as Ruby is Sam's Castiel. Even the characters of Ruby and Castiel are unsure of themselves. They aren't certain in their own sides and just go through motion.
At the end of the day I think they're going to discover neither side is right (Ruby has been just as vicious as the angel's think Jus in Bello). I forsee it being revealed that Ruby had every intention to be manipulative but out of it grew genuine feelings for Sam which made her waver... I hope that's not the way they play it though because that is SO predictable and bland. If she's going to be a bitch I want her to be full time, supermanipulative, super powerful, super bitch. Her just being a nice demon also seems wishy-washy to me at this point.
Well Castiel and Ruby are parallel characters. Castiel is Dean's Ruby just as Ruby is Sam's Castiel. Even the characters of Ruby and Castiel are unsure of themselves. They aren't certain in their own sides and just go through motion.
At the end of the day I think they're going to discover neither side is right (Ruby has been just as vicious as the angel's think Jus in Bello). I forsee it being revealed that Ruby had every intention to be manipulative but out of it grew genuine feelings for Sam which made her waver... I hope that's not the way they play it though because that is SO predictable and bland. If she's going to be a bitch I want her to be full time, supermanipulative, super powerful, super bitch. Her just being a nice demon also seems wishy-washy to me at this point.
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You know, a thought hit me not too long ago. I'm just gonna throw this out there: If Lilith succeeds in her attempt to free Lucifer, it's more than likely that he'll need a vessel to walk the earth--just like any other angel or demon. We know that Azazel was preparing Sam for some secret goal of his. Who's to say that he wasn't working in league with Lilith the entire time? Maybe Sam's role in Azazel's scheme is to be Lucifer's vessel. I mean, he was supposed to lead Azazel's army way back when, perhaps that was merely a precursor of what was to come. Is that why the angels are so dead set against him using his demonic powers--even though he is using them against the enemy? Maybe they are afraid that if he gets too comfortable embracing his dark side, he'll be that much easier to corrupt.
You know, a thought hit me not too long ago. I'm just gonna throw this out there: If Lilith succeeds in her attempt to free Lucifer, it's more than likely that he'll need a vessel to walk the earth--just like any other angel or demon. We know that Azazel was preparing Sam for some secret goal of his. Who's to say that he wasn't working in league with Lilith the entire time? Maybe Sam's role in Azazel's scheme is to be Lucifer's vessel. I mean, he was supposed to lead Azazel's army way back when, perhaps that was merely a precursor of what was to come. Is that why the angels are so dead set against him using his demonic powers--even though he is using them against the enemy? Maybe they are afraid that if he gets too comfortable embracing his dark side, he'll be that much easier to corrupt.
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^^I've thought of that ever since the 3rd or 4th episode of this season. I'm convinced Sam's going to become Lucifer in the end...wich is gonna be awesome!
And wouldn't it be cool if Dean's gonna be God's vessel...so that God himself and Lucifer can fight? That would be awesome! I mean, why else were they so interested in saving Dean and made a huge fuss about it when he was saved? And no, not to influence Sam not to use his powers (they could that themselves easily)...there's something else behind them saving Dean, something they're not telling us. Either he becomes a vessel for God (yes I know it's kinda over the top but it could happen...) or an archangel or something. But they DO have something BIG planned for him...I mean, God HIMSELF commanded Dean to be saved!
^^I've thought of that ever since the 3rd or 4th episode of this season. I'm convinced Sam's going to become Lucifer in the end...wich is gonna be awesome!
And wouldn't it be cool if Dean's gonna be God's vessel...so that God himself and Lucifer can fight? That would be awesome! I mean, why else were they so interested in saving Dean and made a huge fuss about it when he was saved? And no, not to influence Sam not to use his powers (they could that themselves easily)...there's something else behind them saving Dean, something they're not telling us. Either he becomes a vessel for God (yes I know it's kinda over the top but it could happen...) or an archangel or something. But they DO have something BIG planned for him...I mean, God HIMSELF commanded Dean to be saved!
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It could be that they make Dean an angel themselves. According to Jewish and Christian tradition (or mythology, however you want to look at it), they did the same with Enoch and Elijah--who the angels brought to heaven and made into the archangels Metatron and Sandalphon, respectively. I don't know, maybe that's a bit of a reach.
It could be that they make Dean an angel themselves. According to Jewish and Christian tradition (or mythology, however you want to look at it), they did the same with Enoch and Elijah--who the angels brought to heaven and made into the archangels Metatron and Sandalphon, respectively. I don't know, maybe that's a bit of a reach.
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IDK about all that. My gut tells me Lucifer will be maintained. I don't know any networks, especially ones geared primarily at tweens, who would be comfortable letting their shows have Satan and God having a wrestling match. I mean you do have to remember that this is a very serious stuff to alot of people and networks are aware of this.
IDK about all that. My gut tells me Lucifer will be maintained. I don't know any networks, especially ones geared primarily at tweens, who would be comfortable letting their shows have Satan and God having a wrestling match. I mean you do have to remember that this is a very serious stuff to alot of people and networks are aware of this.
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^^Yeah, you're probably right. *sigh* Well, it was just a thought.
^^Yeah, you're probably right. *sigh* Well, it was just a thought.
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Not that serious stuff but ok...
I hope Lucifer breaks free. Now it would be cool for a next season to have hell broken loose on Earth and have this resistance fighting the demons and what not. Yes, a bit cliche but so is a fight between heaven and hell and earth stuck in between...actually, there's probably nothing more cliche than that so...
Not that serious stuff but ok...
I hope Lucifer breaks free. Now it would be cool for a next season to have hell broken loose on Earth and have this resistance fighting the demons and what not. Yes, a bit cliche but so is a fight between heaven and hell and earth stuck in between...actually, there's probably nothing more cliche than that so...
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I think to for Sam being Lucifer' vessel. In epi 3 when the yed said that open the door of hell was just the beginning i thought about the 66 seals
I'm don't know if they can do something like Hell on earth like it could cost a lot.
The last scene of the season cost like some thousand dollars and this is the reason they said we would not have flashback of Dean in hell.
As for God mission for Dean, i think we all wait for something like Dean is the one who can stop his brother
I'm not sure i'm up for a whole season for bro against bro. There are only two main character in that show and it repose a lot of their relationship so..
I think to for Sam being Lucifer' vessel. In epi 3 when the yed said that open the door of hell was just the beginning i thought about the 66 seals
I'm don't know if they can do something like Hell on earth like it could cost a lot.
The last scene of the season cost like some thousand dollars and this is the reason they said we would not have flashback of Dean in hell.
As for God mission for Dean, i think we all wait for something like Dean is the one who can stop his brother
I'm not sure i'm up for a whole season for bro against bro. There are only two main character in that show and it repose a lot of their relationship so..
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There are tons of supernatural vids on youtube and typically I'm not one to take much notice of them but while looking for a specific clip I came across this video that someone made and I have to say for some reason (perhaps because I LOVE Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah") I really like it.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5vcAOEPwEg[/ame]
Enjoy
There are tons of supernatural vids on youtube and typically I'm not one to take much notice of them but while looking for a specific clip I came across this video that someone made and I have to say for some reason (perhaps because I LOVE Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah") I really like it.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5vcAOEPwEg[/ame]
Enjoy
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TEASER/SPOILER of interest.... http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b73415_spoiler_chat_who_else_wants_out_of.html
Kristin's cryptic spoilerish words about Supernatural are halfway down the page next to the picture of (who else) Jared.
TEASER/SPOILER of interest.... http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b73415_spoiler_chat_who_else_wants_out_of.html
Kristin's cryptic spoilerish words about Supernatural are halfway down the page next to the picture of (who else) Jared.
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The folk over at Supernatural have released the following Christmas video http://www.buddytv.com/articles/supernatural/supernatural-the-ghostfacers-c-25417.aspx
It's a little hint that those favorite recurring characters of mine (and Kripkes) the "ghostfacers" will be reappearing sometime this season.
The folk over at Supernatural have released the following Christmas video http://www.buddytv.com/articles/supernatural/supernatural-the-ghostfacers-c-25417.aspx
It's a little hint that those favorite recurring characters of mine (and Kripkes) the "ghostfacers" will be reappearing sometime this season.
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^^Oh, that was awesome!!!
^^Oh, that was awesome!!!