Supernatural / Jensen Ackles / Jared Padelecki [merged]

[neoachilles]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

I'm guessing that for God, the rules differ when it comes to walking on the earth. Angels have to take hosts--however, perhaps God needs to pull another Virgin Mary, and be born into the world. I'm guessing that no human host can contain his power, considering the difficulties that arise for the hosts of the archangels (i.e. the catatonic state of Raphael's host, and Lucifer's host being on the verge of bursting into flames). Perhaps he needs to create his own body.

But still, that leaves the question of where the hell he's been for so long. Has he simply been wandering the earth for the last few centuries? How long has he been on the earth, if he is? Is he even aware of who he is?

Could you imagine waking up one morning to discover that you are the creator of the universe? That would be some heavy shit, bro.

 

[falconfan]

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I agree about the rules being different for God but I don't think he needs to be reborn. I think he probably just has his own form to touch down in and likely an ability to look however he pleases. As to where he's been or why he's gone well we can only guess how they'll write that and as of now I've got no guesses.

 

[neoachilles]

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I think the writers are well aware of the missed opportunity...on a number of occasions there have been references either to Wincest, or just plain old mix-ups in which people mistake the boys for lovers.

 

[falconfan]

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This show really missed a huge opportunity (if even for just subtext) by making these two HOT boys brothers, thereby precluding any sexual tension.

It's true their combined hotness and the extreme emotional attachment between the characters has led many a fan to disregard their relationship and decide they're together anyway.

Luckily I am content with the mere notion of the actors hooking up together and the fact they live together.... yeah that works for me.

 

[Apollo]

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I dont even know what to say about this episode.

Epic goodness is one thing.

I have to say, my favorite scenes is when Lucifer is on the screen.

 

[falconfan]

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Agreed. It was such a kick ass episode. My love for Cas continues to grow. My desire to give Dean a much need hug is also increasing at an epic rate. Two Dean's on a screen can't help but lead my mind to some very interesting sex thoughts, especially when you toss in an orgy loving Cas.

Just amazingness. I'm really loving these time travel episodes.

 

[Apollo]

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Agreed. It was such a kick ass episode. My love for Cas continues to grow. My desire to give Dean a much need hug is also increasing at an epic rate. Two Dean's on a screen can't help but lead my mind to some very interesting sex thoughts, especially when you toss in an orgy loving Cas.

Just amazingness. I'm really loving these time travel episodes.

Cas is amazing.

When he zapped him away from Zach though, I felt like the actor forgot to get out of the future world he was acting in. Cas seemed to smiley and relaxed when he was delivering his lines on the side of the road.

Haha, I was thinking how hot future Dean looked all brooding and slightly evil.

 

[Sausy]

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Interesting episode last night.....a kid with a hell of a problem.A Damien type one.

Loved when Castiel corrected the guys and said that the AntiChrist isn't the son of Lucifer but a highly valued demon/human hybrid who could be twisted and turned by Lucifer to cause horrific damage if the cdemons get their hands on him.Mentioning that humans get a lot of things in the Bible wrong.

Loved the 'X-Men' spiel Dean was giving the kid....before mom and her inner demon showed up to manipulate Jesse with the truth about his unique parentage.That Jesse was a superhero who would be protected just like in the X-Men by a guy in a wheelchair(Bobby)

The best message about Supernatural is its humanity,even in the wake of so much brutality,depravity,negativity and manipulation by evil and even "good"forces.That within us there is something good and worth saving and cherishing even if few believe in us and oftentimes it's hard for us to.

 

[falconfan]

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I liked the episode but the inconsistency bothered me. The concept that everything the Anti-Christ believes is true seemed to just be dropped half-way through the episode. I mean according to the logic of the first half of the episode after Dean convinced him he was a superhero he should've actually been a superhero. In smaller notes Sam and Dean should've been FBI agents as the Anti-Christ believed them to be such. In reality it just disappoints me because that could've been SO FUN for a writer to play with. The fact that there was a safe distance would've made it easy enough to undo anything that was done by the Anti-Christs beliefs and undo permanent damage.

And the parallel to the infamous "Twilight Zone" episode "The Good Life" went on acknowledged yet again (There was a similar, obvious parallel in the season 3 finale). Supernatural has always been very conscious of the horror heritage in film and television and often includes playful references so it's hard for me to think that the writers didn't note the blatant parallel between the scene when Dan tries to kill Anthony in the "It's a Good Life" episode and the scene where Cas tries to kill the anti-christ.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C34g5mz1ZQ[/ame]

 

[Apollo]

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Thinking back on the future episode that Dean was in. Do you think the anti-christ possibly is the reason the angels were gone in the future?

It was only mentioned that they just werent there, but who knows?

It is a stretch idea seeing how Cas didn't dissapear with them, and Dean has already disrupted the slow that that future was on. Or did he?

 

[falconfan]

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Thinking back on the future episode that Dean was in. Do you think the anti-christ possibly is the reason the angels were gone in the future?

It was only mentioned that they just werent there, but who knows?

It is a stretch idea seeing how Cas didn't dissapear with them, and Dean has already disrupted the slow that that future was on. Or did he?

You could make that argument. I don't know if the episode writer really thought of the precise reason as to why the angels vanished.

 

[neoachilles]

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You could make that argument. I don't know if the episode writer really thought of the precise reason as to why the angels vanished.

I may have missed something, but didn't either future-Dean or future-Cas say something about the angels being gone because they had simply given up?

 

[falconfan]

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I may have missed something, but didn't either future-Dean or future-Cas say something about the angels being gone because they had simply given up?

Future Dean said he was trying to say yes but no one was there. Cas also said that Angels no longer existed but none of them really gave a definitive reason, though the impression was they gave up.

 

[clorox]

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Since they now know the colt still exist from the episode in the future, my guess is that Sam is going to say yes so that Dean can shoot him with it. There is a struggle, Dean eventually shoots Sam/Lucifer killing him and Dean dies from wounds received. That or they both say yes and the battle leaves both brothers catatonic, but I think they will both die this time around. A Winchester has died or been resurrected in every season of Supernatural. Plus it goes along with that song they play at the beginning and end of every season while doing the recaps.

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry (don't you cry no more)

No more need to be resurrected.

 

[falconfan]

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I don't see the show killing them off for good. It's just not the feel of the show. Kripke also made comments about being open to season 6 if the stories right.

My assumption is that they continue to pave their own way and fight against predestination, force the demonic force back to hell with divine intervention. I doubt we've seen the last of Anna and there is clearly an extremely powerful Pro-Winchester force at work here.

Perhaps Lucifer did bring back Cas (though I suspect it was God) he certainly didn't transport Sam and Dean to safety. It leaves the question of this higher, stronger power out there in the great experiment of human will vs predestination.

I wouldn't read too much into the Kansas reference. I think it's just a song that fits the genre, feel, and rough story of the show.

 

[falconfan]

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Agreed. How do you go beyond the Apocalypse? Unless they take some sort of spin on this that leaves one thing undone from this story arc they really can't take it any further.

 

[pallenk]

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i think jared and jensen have signed contracts for six seasons.

 

[cityboy-stl]

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Agreed. How do you go beyond the Apocalypse? Unless they take some sort of spin on this that leaves one thing undone from this story arc they really can't take it any further.

Well in the book of Revelation isn't the Apocalypse supposed to last 7 years?
Seems like there ought be enough material to make the Apocalypse last one more season..or maybe two.

 

[clorox]

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I hadn't heard about him being open to six seasons, last I heard it was 5. That's good news.

 

[neoachilles]

Re: Supernatural's back, baby!

Agreed. How do you go beyond the Apocalypse? Unless they take some sort of spin on this that leaves one thing undone from this story arc they really can't take it any further.

Yeah there isn't much you can do after dealing with Armageddon. But, who knows what'll happen? Sam is supposed to be Lucifer's vessel, so who's to say that the season finale won't find him giving in to Lucifer? Then next season could deal with Dean trying to come to terms with either letting the Devil run rampant in Sam's body, or putting and end to him--either on his own, or as Michael. My point is, the whole Apocalypse angle doesn't need to be limited to a single season.