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Survivor 25: Philippines

slipintothefog said:
The edit seems to be pointing to that, honestly. Mike is already connected to RC and Lisa, and Lisa according to the previews is going to be linked to Malcolm, who is partners with Denise... so... yes!

The merge being at 11 is really fucking weird, too. In Heroes vs. Villains they merged at ten but the jury started at 12 like they've been doing since Samoa. But Katie isn't on the jury, and the spoilers already have indicated a final three, so... at least there's no potential for a 3-3-3 tie at final tribal, I guess.
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How extensive are the spoiler sites these days? It seemed to me that after missyae was busted, those sites went down in quality and info so I stopped going. I still think that CBS should let missyae be on Survivor.
 
For this season and next, the person providing spoilers is somebody who was present in the Philippines who is apparently close to a member of production there or something. Right now the spoiled final four and which places they finish in are known, but a lot of people are curious about the spoiler's accuracy because the rumored winner has a very unexpected edit so far.
 
4th Place: Malcolm
3rd/2nd Place: Lisa/Denise (I don't remember which one was which)
1st Place: Skupin

I don't believe any vote totals have been revealed. Just the placements.

Obviously, Lisa and Denise have MUCH better edits than Mike does so far, which has caused a lot of people who analyze the edits to think that the spoiler is wrong and that Mike isn't winning. It's understandable because after the premiere, Mike has gotten zero confessionals and only exists on the show to be trashed by Pete/Artis/Abi. Factor in that he's a returning male player who was removed in a medevac in one of the most infamous moments from the franchise's biggest season ever... and his edit makes no sense at all for a winner, especially when you consider how Redemption Island was just a four month blow job of Boston Rob.

Between Lisa and Denise it's hard to say who has the better edit - Denise HAD to be shown a lot in the beginning because Matsing was decimated, and now her edit has tapered off a bit since she's joined Kalabaw. Lisa has been shown a lot for somebody whose tribe hasn't gone to Tribal Council, and especially for somebody who really isn't at the center of the drama on her tribe except for her one episode isolation, but it can also be argued that Lisa is getting consistent and positive screentime because of her celebrity status.

So edgically, Lisa vs. Denise is still kind of a wash and Mike winning would be the biggest slap in the face from the editors ever. Winners can be underedited (i.e., Natalie White) OR negative (i.e., Todd), but not really both because telling the winner's story in that way makes no sense, and especially not in this age of editing where every winner has to be as inoffensive as possible to please the viewers.
 
Yeah that's the spoiler I read too and my reaction to it was the same as yours. Don't get me wrong, I'd be fine with any of those three winning, but I have a hard time believing it's the one they're saying based on current editing.

The winner spoilers aren't always reliable since the vote reveal is live. I remember on Survivor Cook Islands the F3 twist was spoiled correctly, and the finalists were spoiled correctly, but the same spoiler claimed Ozzy had won, which was of course incorrect. My guess is that it's harder to spoil the winner with a close vote (since the spoiler is essentially a guess of how each juror voted) so maybe the vote will be close again this time?
 
The spoilers of the people in the final three have generally been correct over the years. It's the spoilers of the vote counts that tend to be wrong. Todd/Courtney/Amanda was the spoiled final three but it was said that Amanda was the winner of Survivor China which had people flipping out when Todd won, and people in the live audience actually gasped at the Nicaragua reunion when Chase got third and fourth votes because the spoilers had indicated Fabio won 7-2. :lol:
 
P.S. If the spoiled winner is accurate I find what the editors are doing to be fascinating. Generally they stick to three types of winner edits - the "This person is awesome and basically steamrolls over everyone" AKA the winner edit for men (Richard, Brian, Tom, Yul, Earl, Todd, JT, Rob and finally Kim); the "How runner-up ___ lost to this piece of irrelevant flotsam" AKA the traditional winner edit for women (Tina, Amber, Danni, Natalie, HvV Sandra, Sophie... who all beat men except Danni :rolleyes:); or my favorite in terms of a season's entertainment, "This game is a total clusterfuck strategically and produced this winner you didn't expect" AKA the WTF winner edit (Ethan, Vecepia, Jenna, PI Sandra, Aras, Bob, Jud).

Philippines' spoiled winner would only really fit option #3, which might be why I love this season so much.
 
slipintothefog said:
Todd/Courtney/Amanda was the spoiled final three but it was said that Amanda was the winner of Survivor China which had people flipping out when Todd won
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Exactly. Oh and btw that example right there is why they never should've switched to F3. Think about it. If it was F2, we have to assume Amanda or Courtney would've won the final challenge (Todd SUCKED in challenges, Amanda was dominating the end-game challenges, and even fucking Courtney won an endurance challenge that season) and with Todd being perceived as the mastermind (ugh), they would've eliminated him, and the winner would've been...COURTNEY! It totally would've been one of those Natalie/Samoa surprise wins that you and I would've celebrated via delighted cackling GIFs.

Imagine how awesome that would be if both Sandra and Courtney were winners today.
 
Since I posted the Funny 115's Fall of Hantz entry, here's his dedication to the awesomeness of Courtney Yates. My personal favorite is #12 and I'm going to hell for it.
 
Then I too am going to hell since I don't care about 1) Todd 2) Todd's sister or 3) unborn fetuses.
 
An episode that should've been exciting ended up rather predictably. I knew RC wasn't going to make the finals or anything, but I LOATHE that Abi outlasted her. I can't wait until that crazy fucking dumb bitch gets her comeuppance. If only so I can enjoy those Ponderosa videos where RC calls her a crazy fucking dumb bitch.

Pete and his smug face needs to go too.
 
I thought this episode was great, but more importantly, I have this image to share:

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Sandra Diaz-Twine as Wonder Woman AKA a normal day in the life of Sandra Diaz-Twine. <3
 

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^^ Now that's what we call a character-delineating costume.

Also, this is how RC must have felt trapped on a tribe with Abi & Pete.

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Thanks for the spoilers. No big surprise based on the edits. Really disappointing that players don't think of taking clearly negative, villainous types like Abi and Pete to the final. I'm not a big fan of having the "good" prevail which is why, for example, I was pissed at Chelsea and Sabrina last season.
 
If the jury is Abi, Pete, Artis, Penner, Jeff, Carter, Malcolm-- who are they voting for?

My guesstimates:

Denise: Malcom, Abi, Pete, Artis

Lisa: Jeff, Carter

Skupin: Penner

YOURS?
 
I would guess that Penner votes for Lisa in the end because the editors had little reason to show their bonding session over their washed-up acting careers (p.s. <3) considering Lisa ended up voting for him anyway (p.s. <3333).

Lisa was such a star in last night's episode. She was so cute when squealed over the wine, lol. Her and Penner talking was surreal because they were featured on two of my favorite sitcoms (Lisa on Facts of Life, obviously, and Penner on The Nanny).
 
slipintothefog said:
Her and Penner talking was surreal because they were featured on two of my favorite sitcoms (Lisa on Facts of Life, obviously, and Penner on The Nanny).
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I always forget that Penner had a career in showbiz too. Perhaps because he rarely boasts about his accomplishments like some of these other fools. But did you know Penner once created a short film that was nominated for an Academy Award? A MOTHER-FUCKING ACADEMY AWARD! That's right. Penner may be the only contestant on Survivor to ever have the title of Oscar-nominee attached to his name.*

Which is why it was so funny on Cook Islands when barely literate monkey-man Adam kept saying
Jonathan sucked at life, when Adam's biggest claim to fame was (no joke) dancing in the background on MTV's The Grind.

*which must really bother Jeffrey, because we all know in the Hollywood caste system, Oscar nominee beats thee-time Emmy winner.
 
I really hope that someone lays into Abi on the reunion show so that they can prove how wrong she was, and what an idiot. Loving Malcolm, but they need a reward challenge that provides a shower. His hair is getting a little funky looking.
 
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