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Survivor 31: Cambodia (Second Chance)

Also, is it not super ridiculous that Jeremy was able to play his idol as a response to Kelley's? Say the option to play idols was done in private... Kelley would have still played her idol, and Jeremy would have gone home because he wouldn't have been clued in that his side's target was about to be safe.

Holy fuck, all of the mechanics involved in Kimmi's boot anger me. When did this show become Big Brother?
 
Yes and that's exactly what happens when you have too many damn idols in the game.

However, allowing one person to play their idol as a response to another person's idol play has always been part of the game ever since they added more idols (see: Tony and LJ). What I don't like is suddenly changing the rules for a situation we've seen before. When the votes were tied between Kimmi and Tasha, they didn't just revote with Jeff saying, "You can only vote for Kimmi or Tasha." Why all of a sudden did they HAVE to come up with a unanimous vote. That was never part of the equation before. It was always, you revote between the two tied vote-getters, and if there's still a tie, then you go to rocks. Why didn't they just do that? In that scenario, Kelly and Keith likely would've still voted for Tasha, Spencer and Jeremy would've voted for Kimmi, they'd be tied again thereby automatically making Kimmi and Tasha immune, and Keith would've been bounced from the game because he'd be the only one eligible to draw rocks. That's how it should've gone down. By adding in this new "You must come to a unanimous decision by talking and oh by the way Keith you're fucked if you don't" then of course Keith is just going to vote out Kimmi.
 
Also, the whole reason they even started doing fire-making challenges at the final four was to avoid the anticlimactic auto-eviction that would be caused when one person has immunity and two more become immune from a voting deadlock. I know this wasn't the final four but it's the same principle.
 
There was a lot wrong with this season but to me, the person who single handedly ruined the end game was Tasha. She had a CLEAR SHOT by going with the women and she chose instead a path that was destined to give her 0 votes. It's just stunning to me that she could talk about having to put up with alpha men in corporate America when she actually just played for the two alpha guys on her team.
 
Speaking of which, another Tasha gem, one on par with last week's "The fans deserve better than a season with a bunch of goats at the end!" was "I think it just makes Kimmi feel good to try to play" said in the most condescending tone possible.

Beeyotch, Kimmi's game this season was way better than Tasha's. She stayed quiet and worked those social circles (check out the warm reception she got at Ponderosa, and everyone's said they loved Kimmi post-show), knew to flip at the exact moment necessary, and went for it balls-on instead of just rolling over and accepting her fate as fourth like Tasha did as Jeremy and Spencer's third, and was only denied by the most bullshit of extenuating circumstances possible. Also, even though I didn't necessarily agree with Kimmi's flip on Monica, she still pulled off a flawless 3-2-1 blindside evoking memories of Cirie's same move.

Tasha... enabled Jeremy, and knew he was a threat and leaving her out of the loop at critical votes, and tried to use Abi as a goat in the pre-merge only to turn around and cut her loose post-merge because she was "better" than that, and then she lost unanimously for her efforts. gj x0
 
Also I still massively prefer Jeremy as a winner to Spencer or Tasha, but I really hated his finger wagging at Kimmi for trying to make a move against him. What, like she shouldn't try to play for herself and just accept the 4th place fate he was giving her? Get bent Jeremy.

Had Kelly won that final immunity, do you think Jeremy would've been the one voted out? I'm betting yes based no the fact that Spencer and Tasha were closer (by her own admission and by what we saw with them together in the shelter). So if it's Kelly/Spencer/Tasha in the F3, does Kelly win?
 
In a Kelley/Spencer/Tasha scenario, Kelley would definitely have Ciera, Kass, Keith and Abi. Might have Kimmi and Joe. Don't know about Jeremy, Stephen or Kelly (who clearly didn't care about most of these people). Wouldn't have Savage because he'd be a petulant crybaby about being eliminated due to her idol.
 
OMG slip also fucking CALEB from the worst season of Big Brother is going to be on Survivor now? WTF???
 
However it turned out I thought this was an excellent season of Survivor. And Reunion is kind of a joke since 2 or 3 people get to talk only because Jeff can't shut the fuck up.
 
Between the three who made it to the finals of Survivor: Cambodia—Jeremy, Spencer, and Tasha—the right person won.

When Stephen was blindsided into 9th place, I thought that was going to be the result of Spencer, who orchestrated it, getting together with Abi-Maria, Joe, Keith, and Kelley for a Final Five from which Spencer and Abi-Maria and Kelley would be the Final Three.

The fact that Spencer went back to trusting Jeremy and Tasha was the wrong move for him. Yes, he got to end of the game but, against Kelley, he would have received jury votes. Against Jeremy, he received none. He received zero votes because, in part, he contributed to having made Joe, Abi-Maria, Kimmy, Keith, and Kelley lose out. The Joe loss was a consensus vote. But, it came right after he backed Joe over Stephen. Then Spencer came down overly aggressively with Kimmy. And then, with Final Four, and right in front of the jury, Spencer was ridiculously threatening—basically saying he would influence (really, instruct) the jury to vote for Kelley—had Jeremy opted to put Spencer in fourth place. (Never mind, by the way, that Tasha was going into the Final Three…and that meant Spencer would also make a statement to his fellow jurors that they must vote for Kelley to win over Tasha.)

It's good that, on the Reunion special, there was a brief moment in which Spencer admitted his end-of-the-game mistakes. (That his decision on which group to trust was wrong.) But, given he was observant of Kimmy and Kelley, there was no excuse for him not to also be observant of Jeremy.

The No. 1 reason why Jeremy won Survivor: Cambodia was because he did the best job of handling himself. With exception of Kimmy, and then he explained himself effectively when questioned by Kimmy, Jeremy was solid. And he wasn't about to put Spencer in fourth place, in part due to the consistency of his voting from each Tribal Council, because he knew he would win over Spencer. There was no panic from Jeremy.

When reflecting on the episode in which Stephen was blindsided in an excellent move by Spencer, it was mentioned by Spencer that he was realizing Stephen and Jeremy and Tasha and Kimmy were tight—and he wasn't a part of their end-of-the-game goal. Well, all Spencer ended up doing was, despite also saying he needed to create a new situation, was work to replace Stephen and, eventually, Kimmy. He didn't go after finishing the game as No. 1. Spencer pursued winning a Final Three slot.

A big part of this makes me want to make a vulgar comparison. The ridiculous obsession Stephen felt for Joe. The envy Spencer felt for Stephen. And then there was Tasha, who made moves in the game only when her ass could be on the line (in the realigned tribe that had her and Andrew as Bayon originals joined with the four Ta Keo originals of Abi-Maria, Jeff, Peih-Gee, and Woo), and then she did nothing to spearhead any meaningful moves after the merge. (Did anyone believe that, when responding to Joe's question, Tasha lead the charge to eliminate Joe?) All during this time, Stephen, Tasha and, as it cost him the game, Spencer had one thing in common: doing all they could to keep sucking off Jeremy.

Had Spencer, after setting up Stephen's blindside, gone with Abi-Maria and Kelley for a Final Three while having also aligned with Keith, as No. 4, and Joe, as No. 5 (and maybe getting Joe out at No. 7 by putting Kimmy and Tasha into slot Nos. 4 and 5 instead)…he would have received jury votes and, perhaps, won this game. And, frankly, if Kelley was too intimidating…maybe Spencer would have won that last challenge and been in a Final Three with Abi-Maria and Keith.

Spencer fucked himself.

The thing that is most appealing about Jeremy having won Survivor: Cambodia, over Tasha and Spencer, is that neither Tasha or Spencer received a single juror's vote.
 
Realization: Woo got more jury votes in Cagayan than Spencer did in Cambodia. :3

Woo <3 This season needed more of him.
 
After all the times I've made fun of slip for the kinds of guys he finds attractive on these shows, now it's his turn to make fun of me. I actually thought Spencer could GET IT for the first time at the reunion.*

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*(but only if he agreed not to talk and only if I could couldn't get Jeremy or Woo)
 

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Once the Kimmi thing happened I lost interest. I still don't understand how that worked. Why not the usual fire-lighting duel? What a load of rubbish. The finale was so lame. Really disappointed now.
 
Redsox, they only make fire to break a tie at Final 4. Every other time, if no one changes their vote, the two tied vote-getters become immune and everyone else who's not immune must draw rocks to see who gets eliminated. Its a way to discourage ties before Final 4. So for example last night, Spencer had individual immunity, Kelly and Jeremy were also immune because they played their idols, and if the tie had remained (if no one changed their vote) then Kimmi and Tasha would also become immune, and the remaining players would have to draw rocks, and in this rare case, Keith was the ONLY remaining player so he would automatically go home. Nothing wrong with that because that's how they've been doing it for years.

However, what was different about last night, as I indicated in a prior post, is that instead of just re-voting, Probst announced that they had to come up with a unanimous decision or else they would go to rocks and Keith would automatically go home.

Of course...I still don't understand why the rest of them didn't just let that happen. Since the decision had to be unanimous, any of them could've refused to change their vote and Keith would've gone home automatically. It was totally in Kelly's interest, Spencer's interest and Jeremy's interest to let that happen since Keith was a bigger immunity challenge threat.

So basically Kimmi got eliminated because everyone else was stupid in that moment and too many idols.
 
Spencer isn't physically unattractive other than looking like Skeletor at the end of the season last night. So thin. Although obviously that wasn't his fault what with the starving for 40 days and shit. The personality though is complete turn-off and he'd be pretty low on the list of guys from this season I'd fuck. I did think it was pretty funny how Jeremy was there in a tux and Spencer showed up all "Fuck this shit" in a hoodie.

Kass probably said it the best. Kimmi could have won if she made to it the end, but she might not have made it to the end even if she'd survived that final six BS. Though honestly, if Jeremy went home in Kimmi's place, I think her chances could have been pretty good, which is awesome for the pre-merge boot from season two.

Also, Kimmi's words make it pretty clear she had no love for Spencer and Tasha, and so let's chalk her up as a Kelley vote in our hypothetical Spencer/Tasha/Wentworth F3, Pepper.
 
Jeremy impressed me on so many levels. His attitude was always positive and cool. In that respect he sort of reminded me of Ethan Zohn from all the way back in Outback (29 seasons ago, eek!). He was a good competitor and strategist. Saving the baby story for final tribal was genius. And physically, that body. . . what's not to lick. err, I mean like?(ww)
 
Also, Kimmi's words make it pretty clear she had no love for Spencer and Tasha, and so let's chalk her up as a Kelley vote in our hypothetical Spencer/Tasha/Wentworth F3, Pepper.

Yup. I see Kelly getting Kass/Ciera/Abi/ Keith automatically (4) and Tasha getting Savage/Jeremy/Stephen automatically (3). That leaves Wiggles (who knows how she'd vote since they never showed her); Kimmi (who we now know would vote for Kelly), and Joe (who made it clear in post-elimination interviews that he felt betrayed by Jeremy and his allies and he was close enough to Kelly to alert her that she was the target when she played her first idol). That means Kelly wins with 6 votes, Tasha gets second place with 3 votes, and Spencer still hilariously gets 0 votes.

And this outcome is STILL better for Tasha so yeah she should've gone with the girls.
 
Holmes: When Jeremy dropped the baby bomb, I was wondering if anyone would think he was pulling some Jonny Fairplay-esque move.
Nale: To me he was pretty convincing. I don’t think you throw something out there to get sympathy votes. Looking at them, Jeremy was going to get my vote whether she was pregnant or not.
Kappenberg: Exactly. Tasha out there…she was another one. You could’ve put anyone next to Tasha and Spencer and they would’ve won. You could put Abi out there and it would’ve been a tough call.
Nale: Yeah.
Kappenberg: Abi had been mentally abused out there. Her feelings were hurt.
Nale: She was a time bomb.
Kappenberg: But she would’ve gotten my vote over Tasha and Spencer. That’s how anti-Tasha and Spencer I am. There were different things you didn’t see, like in the food challenge where she’s eating the balut and she’s pounding her chest and saying, “I’m doing this out of hate! I’m doing this out of hate!” It’s like, “Who the heck are you? What are you doing?” The audience didn’t get to see that. Why are Tasha and Spencer so protected? Even during the loved-one visit, they showed us for a little bit, but it still managed to be about Spencer. Ooo…he’s got a little girlfriend. Oooo…he said, “I love you.” And he didn’t even win the damn reward.
Holmes: Keith, who are you voting for in a Spencer, Abi, Tasha final three?
Nale: That’d be a close call right there. I don’t know…I might have to give it to Spencer. Just because Abi and Tasha…it’d be a close call. Close call. Not Tasha. I look at it like, “Did they really play this game?” Spencer won some challenges. He made it further than me.

So Abi-Maria Gomes, undeserving goat whom Tasha had to eliminate in order to save America, would have had four locked votes (Ciera, Kass, Kelley, Kimmi) against "deserving" finalists Spencer and Tasha. Like, that would be enough to win in a freak situation where Spencer and Tasha split the rest of the votes evenly. Let's take a moment to ponder this.
 
All these reports on Tasha just makes me thinks he must be HORRIBLE to be around in real life. Eliza on Twitter has all but said she doesn't like Tasha personally and remember when Jeff Varner got voted out and talked smack about Tasha in post-elimination interviews? I didn't like her this season but it's amazing how the show really does seem to hide that aspect of her personality.
 
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