Survivor Gabon Cast Is Up!

[LiquidSky]

I would love to take Charlie to the "Sugar Shack" and have some fun!

 

[falconfan]

You're a hard one (headed, not dick) Mr. Nik2 (who was 1?). If you watch that last show again and pay attention to, something besides Crystals big ass that can't climb a hill, Marcus you'll see that more than once in the hour he showed a lot of affection toward Charlie and Charlie did not invite it.

You sir sre blind as the proverbial bat, or you're just so cold and heartless that you can't see the connect. Wake up pretty boy and get your love maker shaking for some love . No yet but we don't see the long and lonely nights with the big African sky and stars the size of Texass that could make a man scooch over and get him some Charlie love.

What you want is for Marcus to be so str8 that he'll just be poo-pooing the gay boy, but sorry Chumley, there is a lot more than just game playing Survivor style, but some hanky and jerky panky possibly in the rushes, brushes and woods. Some cameraman probably has some hot footage that he'll put on youtube when the show has aired, and Mr. Marcus (the Survivor and not the porn star) may be more of a man than you thought and Charlie just may be the sweetest cheeks this side of Gabon.

Sweet dreams, sugar shake.

This post was meant to incite Nik2 and his lovey dove, Falconfan into such a state of angry excitement that they just may fall on each other and smooch the night away in frantic lust and soft heartfelt kisses. But if not they can come crashing down on my head and beat me senseless with long winded sentences to try and prove me wrong.

It's just sad that you are only capable of seeing male to male bonding in the context of sexuality. I don't know about you but I have female friends who I hug and am affectionate towards and that doesn't mean I want to bone them. I mean for God's sake just because Marcus is acting like a perfectly reasonable human being doesn't presuppose any sexual desires. By your definition every football player who slapped another man on the ass was secretly yearning for a homosexual experience. It's just not the same. There are such things as platonic friendships and physical context doesn't always have sexual undertones. Charlie is clearly Marcus's closest friend and ally. That's clear. And likely it's genuine but I've seen nothings to indicate it goes any deeper.

 

[Eeyore]

While I understand it's possible to be friendly and affectionate with someone and not be sexually attracted to them, at the same time I know it's more than a little "wrong" to do that when they've all but told you they want to make a life with you.

I've had several friends who wanted more from me than that, and not once did I get more touchy-feely the more I found out just how much they liked me. It could be that Marcus is just clueless to the torture he's inflicting, or he could be doing it on purpose. Then again, it is possible that something more is going on, that we as the audience aren't seeing. As most people know, reality shows tell the stories they want to tell, and if what's been happening doesn't fit that story, they either don't show it or edit it to hell and back.


And to blame Charlie because he continues to have an infatuation with someone after it's made clear to him it isn't going to work isn't fair at all. I know from personal experience it's not possible to just turn off feelings for someone simply because things won't work out. I wish you could (or I could, at least) but that's just not the way things work.

 

[aijalon18]

^I agree somewhat. It pretty obvious that Charlie is attracted to him. Being so touchy feely is sending mixed messages if he doesnt feel the same. He must know that.

Personally I dont think that Marcus is mean-spirited. I think he is doing what comes natural to him. I think it is possible to be attracted to a person not necessarily a gender.

 

[falconfan]

While I understand it's possible to be friendly and affectionate with someone and not be sexually attracted to them, at the same time I know it's more than a little "wrong" to do that when they've all but told you they want to make a life with you.

I've had several friends who wanted more from me than that, and not once did I get more touchy-feely the more I found out just how much they liked me. It could be that Marcus is just clueless to the torture he's inflicting, or he could be doing it on purpose. Then again, it is possible that something more is going on, that we as the audience aren't seeing. As most people know, reality shows tell the stories they want to tell, and if what's been happening doesn't fit that story, they either don't show it or edit it to hell and back.


And to blame Charlie because he continues to have an infatuation with someone after it's made clear to him it isn't going to work isn't fair at all. I know from personal experience it's not possible to just turn off feelings for someone simply because things won't work out. I wish you could (or I could, at least) but that's just not the way things work.

To some degree I see where you're coming from but I don't think anyone is being "tortured" silently or otherwise. I mean I know and have known people who liked me and I was definitely aware of that when I interact with them. That being said I really don't see anything wrong with Marcus giving the man a fucking hug after they've won a challenge. I mean REALLY people!?

As for not blaming Charlie... umm that really depends on what we're suppose to not be blaming him for. I don't blame him for thinking Marcus is hot but for fuck say have some self respect! I'd creeped out if I was on a first are second date with someone and they said some of the shit Charlie says. I mean this is not a gay/straight issue. There are tons of reasons we encounter in life where a relationship just aint gonna work out. You just accept it and live with it. I mean right now I haven't "blamed" him for anything. I do believe however that he's said some stuff that's kinda creepy.

 

[joesman]

Thank you, thank you, thank. You are exactly right, of course.

And let me just say -- to anyone who doesn't know from experience -- it's not fun and games and "cute" to have a stalker in real life. Trust me, it's not.

I don't think Charlie has crossed that line quite yet, but he seriously needs to dial it back a bit. His asides to the camera reveal someone who is very unhappy in his life ("This is like a hundred times better than my real life!") and who is pathetically desperate for approval (To Marcus, after he did nothing: "I feel like safe when you're around and my heart skips a beat when you're not." To Corrine, after she stated the obvious: "Oh my god you're so smart!") Dude needs to work on a few things to make himself happy or he could very easily cross that line I mentioned.

You and your wee taddy have gone over the edge and you call me nutty. There is nothing to imply that Charlie is stalking anyone. The affection between he and Marcus is coming mutually. All you have seen is a couple of clips of Charlie talking about his admiration. A little clip and you have him stalking already. Come on! Come on, now. How did you derive that from a couple of cut clips that Survivor edited to their pleasure.

And again I tell you that you are blind if you don't see the mutual affection. That's all I am saying until I read that Charlie was killed trying to climb in Marcus' window or that Marcus was killed trying to get away from Charlie, which is not going to happen. This show is not on 24/7 like BB so you only get what they show you in their little clips.

I am astonished at both of you.

 

[joesman]

It's just sad that you are only capable of seeing male to male bonding in the context of sexuality. I don't know about you but I have female friends who I hug and am affectionate towards and that doesn't mean I want to bone them. I mean for God's sake just because Marcus is acting like a perfectly reasonable human being doesn't presuppose any sexual desires. By your definition every football player who slapped another man on the ass was secretly yearning for a homosexual experience. It's just not the same. There are such things as platonic friendships and physical context doesn't always have sexual undertones. Charlie is clearly Marcus's closest friend and ally. That's clear. And likely it's genuine but I've seen nothings to indicate it goes any deeper.

Be sad all you want. No man hugs another man by putting his hand behind his head intimately while pulling him into a hug. I feel sorry for you because you have such a caustic personality and stating things in a way that only you think it is the devine word. Sadly, and as sad as you are no one is going to change your obvious lack of insight about men and sexuality and friendship with men. I have women friends and men friends and I hug them all but not that intimately. I haven't seen a straight man pull another str8 or gay man into an intimate hug by putting his hand behind his head. That is reserved for lovers.

You need to rethink your manner of wording your posts to make them less offensive.

 

[falconfan]

You and your wee taddy have gone over the edge and you call me nutty. There is nothing to imply that Charlie is stalking anyone. The affection between he and Marcus is coming mutually. All you have seen is a couple of clips of Charlie talking about his admiration. A little clip and you have him stalking already. Come on! Come on, now. How did you derive that from a couple of cut clips that Survivor edited to their pleasure.

And again I tell you that you are blind if you don't see the mutual affection. That's all I am saying until I read that Charlie was killed trying to climb in Marcus' window or that Marcus was killed trying to get away from Charlie, which is not going to happen. This show is not on 24/7 like BB so you only get what they show you in their little clips.

I am astonished at both of you.

I know intelligence can be astonishing some times.

And I didn't say he was a stalker just that he's said creepy fucking things. Like when I can't see you my heart stops beating.... that is fucking weird. That's not romantic and it sure as hell aint an expression of friendship. Someone says that too me and I'm investing in mace.

And I'm well aware of the fact this has been edited that doesn't mean I'm going to just invent things. I think Marcus has a genuine friendship with Charlie. That's it.

And for the record I am not a fucking sidekick.

 

[falconfan]

Be sad all you want. No man hugs another man by putting his hand behind his head intimately while pulling him into a hug. I feel sorry for you because you have such a caustic personality and stating things in a way that only you think it is the devine word. Sadly, and as sad as you are no one is going to change your obvious lack of insight about men and sexuality and friendship with men. I have women friends and men friends and I hug them all but not that intimately. I haven't seen a straight man pull another str8 or gay man into an intimate hug by putting his hand behind his head. That is reserved for lovers.

You need to rethink your manner of wording your posts to make them less offensive.

Have you never attended or watched a televised sporting event? There's all kinds of unnecessary quasi-sexual male to male contact. And I will word my posts however I damn well please If you don't like them... too bad for you.

 

[falconfan]

Furthermore, you've complimented me on a number of occasions so I don't really wanna insult you. Yeah, I'm that easy.

You are so full of shit.

 

[joesman]

Well of course this is laughably wrong. Honestly, only in America are we so unused to affection and bonding between male friends that we assume any expression of it must mean something sexual. This would be unthinkable in Europe and Latin America.

I've already explained why this kind of reasoning is actually sexist/homophobic in its own right and I've also explained why Marcus has a vested game interest in reciprocating Charlie's affection. I won't repeat myself. The posts are there if you care to read them.

Furthermore, you've complimented me on a number of occasions so I don't really wanna insult you. Yeah, I'm that easy.

Well you've heard the last one from me.

Enough! Everything I am interested in or comment on you and lackey are always there to push what you think is right and act as if you are the only voice in the universe. If you took a good look in the mirror you'd see homophobia.. Well, you are wrong about them and about me. And as I said, enough! I don't need this constant bickering you 2 always want to carry on.

 

[falconfan]

Are you insane?? Do you even remember the things you write? Just on the page before YOU posted this:



So yeah, clearly you were trying to provoke an argument and trying to be all casual about it. Which is cool with me. But don't come back afterwards then and act all huffy and upset (and what I posted to you certainly wasn't that bad. I've said much worse things in the BB10 thread).

Arguing/disagreeing doesn't mean one person hates the other or anything. Lighten up dude. Jeez.

Well clearly when he was picking the fight he thought he stood a chance of winning... which is adorable.

 

[Ares]

In The Real World Marcus Is Clueless And Immature. For Only The Most Puerile Among Us Flirt Without Any Intention Of Following-Through. But Survivor Isn't The Real World - And I Suspect He Is Doing What Charlie Should Be Doing - Playing The Game!

Sneaky heteros.

 

[joesman]

Oh there are definitely some losers here all right...

and I suspect you're the biggest loser of all, nikky. So I am quitting this and anyplace else you may happen to post except BB because I think your ego and your assumptions are trite, insecure, and puerile.

 

[falconfan]

For Only The Most Puerile Among Us Flirt Without Any Intention Of Following-Through.

You're so right. Flirting is so juvenile. I don't know what kind of person would resort to such a thing...

Seriously. Can we make out?

Well cutie, maybe if you and I started "agreeing" in other ways (and posted pictures of our agreement), we could make things more exciting round these here parts. I'm sure I could make you agree "Oh yes!" multiple times.

Oh trust me I'd love to agree with you. I could agree with you so so much and for so long. Mmmmm could I ever agree with you. As for pictures of our agreement well these good people would just have to rely on their imaginations of our agreement... are firm, passionate, lengthy agreement

Why ride a horse, when I've got you?

I'm all about saving horses, Nik2! You game?

Nope can't think of anyone at all who would do such a thing

 

[falconfan]

LMAO! And I was just reading a recap of the last episode of Survivor from TWOP and apparently Marcus did not kiss Charlie on the shoulder. Apparently during the food competition with the fruits and vegetables, a piece of fruit fell and stayed on Charlie's shoulder and Marcus simply ate it. Cuz you know. They're starving.

HAHAHA! Kinda blows that silly theory out of the water doesn't it? But then cooler heads could tell it was silly all along.

Honey now lets not get irrational to prove our point there's plenty of evidence in reality. Simply saying he ate the food off Charlie's shoulder is a fast oversimplification. Marcus does, after all, have apposable thumbs and was fully capable of just picking up any food and eating it. Plus I'm sure in the challenge of fruit smashing Charlie was not the only person with fruit on her person. No it was a celebratory reaction and one he was comfortable enough to just eat straight off Charlie's shoulder because he genuinely is closest to Charlie. But that's all that really is... an expression of excess adrenaline after a physical/emotional high of victory. As of pointed out before... there's ass slapping all over the world of sports but it's not a sign of supressed homosexual desires.

 

[falconfan]

LOL! I'll have to go back and watch that. I bet Charlie got hard all the same.

Anyone have any predictions for this week? From the previews, and judging by how stupidly Fang played last week, I say they try to target Ace, Sugar gives him the idol and he plays it successfully. Which means either Ken, Crystal, Matty or Kelly go home.

I'm assuming of course that Kota wins Immunity again. LOL.

Hmnmmm predictions are hard when given the often intentionally misleading promos. In fact given how this promo is cut to make him look like he does rather well it almost makes me think he'll be screwed. At least I hope that's the reality. If Matty were smart he'd make a deal with Ace and tell him which one of them needed the idol in return for Sugar/Ace targeting Kelli. This would allow Matty to A) Look like he's loyal to Ken and Crystal B) get in good with Ace C) Allow him to maintain an original Fang majority AND make him necessary to Ken and Crystal (where as now Kelli is more useful to them) D) control who goes by allowing himself the freedom to lie/tell the truth to Ace E) Ensure the idol is played this week one way or the other. I don't really see Matty being that smart though. After all he did have to "put a face" to the sounds of elephants.

If Kota wins than Suzie is going. That I'm almost sure of.

 

[falconfan]

W00t w00t! Marcus and Charlie both have a facebook account too. Man, I'm so tempted to add them. lol It doesn't look like these two are friends with each other though.

And yes, I'm a facebook whore!

How can you tell if they are/aren't each other's friends? You can't even get ON a person's facebook unless they're in their network so there's no way to see someone's friends.

 

[falconfan]

Yes you can dove. When you search for a person, even if you can't click on their profile, you can click on View Friends.

So you can.... well that's definitely thought provoking

 

[joesman]

Nik, There are few people like you on message boards. I hold you in high esteem.