Survivor Gabon Cast Is Up!

[Ohiospeedo]

Well they keep voting out the people I like. Only two people that I can stand are Sugar and Bob. Can't stand Kenny.

 

[Aratron]

Kenny... yes, you are a RAT! No big surprise there. Charlie's gone, he wasn't even a big threat. You got people to boot him because he stopped you from finding the idol last week? WTF? With 9 other people around, you seriously thought you could find the idol without anyone catching you? Please! Karma will get you, you bitch.

Bob... LOVE HIM!! I hope his fake immunity idol comes in handy. Randy did seem racist in tonight's episode. But I like the fact that he hates Crystal with a passion. Someone needs to take the cock(iness) out of her!

I loved how Sugar got all emotional over this vote. lol I hope she makes it far in this game! I personally would love to watch her outplay Kenny and give him the boot. The only good thing that came out of this was watching Charlie and Marcus bond in Ponderosa. Love the bromance!

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/surviv...TKSc8CwHl0gu6ABQZtTomdCQPry22vz&play=true&cc=Charlie & Marcus haters (you know who you are)... please just let people enjoy the video. No need to trash Charlie for liking Marcus, because we've already heard all of it.

Randy is even more cocky

Anyway, here's an interview with Charlie: http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article8515.art&page=1

RNO: In your final Tribal Council, you indicated that you thought Ken was a great guy. Once you were voted off and especially now that you’ve seen the episode, has your opinion of Ken, as a person, changed?

Charlie: I had very little experience with Ken. The only experience I had with him were those three hours we spent as a merged tribe after the challenge and before Tribal Council. The other thing with Ken was when Dan, Susie, and Randy came into our tribe, I learned Ken had been calling me “fag” behind my back.

 

[Laststraw21]

I thought Charlie and Marcus' friendship was sweet and genuine in those videos.

 

[thelaw18489]

I don't know why but since the introductions of the people online I was rooting for matty, kenny, and sussie, I really hope that these three make it to the final 3, pleas don't flip flop matty, your too hot to come in 6th

 

[falconfan]

Man sometimes I get tired being so darn right all the time.

Then you can always go revisit the times you wrote these

This could change on a weekly basis but thus far:

People I Love
Marcus, Bob, Crystal

LOL! Good reference! Though Marcus is a successful lawyer, relatively well spoken, and went to UPenn (which despite upper Ivy-snobbiness, it's still an Ivy). So he's probably guaranteed to be at least a little bit smarter than the delusional guy from BB3 who was too dumb to use the veto he won on himself.

But yeah Charlie's crush is cute, a teency bit creepy, and possibly fatal for his game. But hey, if it helps Marcus then yayy!

Love ya Nikki

 

[falconfan]

I was wondering where the heck you were aijalon. Glad to have you back babe

Also, Charlie seems like a genuinely nice guy but how dumb are he and Corrine?

"Marcus deserved to be in this game longer than other people."

Way to prove how dumb you guys are.

"Marcus did all the thinking for us."

And way to outright say it!

My favorite part was Corrine: "Marcus didn't deserve to go" cut to a few seconds later Corrine: "It's not a matter of deserving..."

 

[falconfan]

Any combination of Ken and two people from Susie/Sugar/Matty/Crystal (in that order preferably) is fine with me.

I'm good with Bob making it too. I like Bob.

 

[falconfan]

Those were personal preferences you bitch which can change over time as people reveal more of their personality.

I'm rarely ever wrong about strategic analysis and the best moves, as well as how people may or may not react to other players. Must I re-hash the fact that I called Dan from BB10 winning 7-0 the day before it happened?

Or the fact that I told you over a year ago that Obama was very electable?

Really? Personal preferences... I thought it was you assuming a man that had shown himself to be a simpering imbecile MUST have something of substance to him just because he had a high-profile school and profession... might someone have a class bias?

And I must point out that you made teh comment about Dan's sweep as a joke and were just as surprised when it happened as I was.

 

[Aratron]

Randy being booted next would absolutely make my day. Unfortunately, I don't think this is that linear

 

[falconfan]

Awesome. The wonderful people at Television Without Pity agree that Randy is a racist or -- in their words -- "a racist prick." They quote two key things he said as subtle proof of what seemed obvious to some of us for some time now.

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/survivor/the_brains_behind_everything.php

lol I wouldn't call them subtle. I mean when he said that gang thing I just cringed.

 

[falconfan]

It's gonna be subtle for some people on this board hon. Trust me.

But yeah, that line made me cringe too. God I almost wish they had gotten Randy out first before Charlie. I mean Charlie seemed like a nice guy, he was just kind of an idiot and he had no game. Randy on the other hand is a horrible person.

Yeah well If I were them it would go Charlie, Bob, Corrine, Randy.

When you keep someone as unpleasant as Randy or Corrine you really don't have to worry as much about people defecting....on the other hand you might not want to keep him around TOO long or they become too tempting to take to the finals. Long story short though I think keeping Randy around will prevent Sugar from flipping. Because let's think of this... Susie, Ken, and Crystal seem tight... so if we get rid of Randy next what's to stop perfectly likable Bob from teaming up with perfectly likable Sugar and perfectly likable Matty and then who side do you think Corrine would be on? Certainly not those who dared to attack Marcus.... Randy however is so abrasive that Sugar can bond with Kenny, Crystal and Susie about how unlikable he is. Plus if you leave Randy and Corrine they're TOTALLY the type to segregate themselves, sit in a corner and bitch about everyone else.

 

[falconfan]

As if fugly Ken's the perfect image of masculinity himself!

Now I have more reason for disliking this idiot. You all can support him for being a great player and all, but he's no different than Randy. At least with Randy, he'll call you out on your shit. With Kenny, the puss will talk shit behind your back... that's what skinny cowards like him do. I'd would to watch someone kick his ass.

Note: I AM NOT DEFENDING RANDY, SO DON'T EVEN GO THERE! He's an old dirty bastard who happens to be a racist... I know. At least he hasn't called anyone the "n-word" yet.

*Patiently waiting for Nik to defind his man (Kenny) and/or call me an Asian Hater*

Ummm I think hearsay based on hearsay coming from someone who's clearly got reason to be bitter is a little less reliable than actually SEEING someone make comments on film.

 

[falconfan]

I knew you would point me out on that one, but it was too late to edit it.

I was just comparing the two comments... using the word Fag vs. the N-word.

But here's the thing.... people don't get points for NOT using teh N-word. It's a basic thing that EVERYONE should do. It's something that's expected of everyone. Pointing out that someone didn't use the N-word isn't something that makes people go he MUST be ok.

What me and Nik were trying to say is that Randy has exhibited racist traits/spoken with racial undertones and we ourselves have seen and observed it. We KNOW it is true. Charlie saying that someone told him that someone else said something is a very different situation. There's very little evidence pointing to the fact Ken actually said those things, especially when you take into account that it's coming from Charlie, someone Ken embarassed on national TV.

 

[Aratron]

This is what Ken said when he was voting:

Ken (votes Charlie): Sorry, Charlie. It's not like I'm a homophobic. It's just that at that feast, you took the hidden immunity idol away from me and I thought I gotta get you for that. Sorry.

 

[falconfan]

I certainly don't mean to treat you like "such a horrible person" and I'm sorry if that's the way you feel. I don't think I've done anything other than react to the comments you have made and commented on them. That doesn't mean I have anything against you or even dislike. Surely you can't forget the debate me and Nik had for pages and pages of the BB thread about this very topic and we're as close as we've ever been.

That being said I make no apologies for pointing out a comment I find in accurate for ANY reason and that includes racism.

And you're still missing the point that we're not saying it's OK for Ken to be homophobic we're saying we've seen nothing to indicate this. Regardless for you to be surprised for a gamer to be homophobic only tells me you've never been privy to online games. And that background can not justify either homophobia or racism so even if you DO expect Randy to be racist it doesn't make it any better or more acceptable.

But you guys treat me like I'm such a horrible person for not calling out Randy for every thing he says or does. You know what... it's just a freaking TV show and I don't know these people. Hell, if you have such high standards for people, then why aren't Sugar, Matty, Kenny, Bob, etc. calling out Randy for the things he says that are blatantly racist? Or should we blame that on "editing"?

This is how the world is... your opinion or my opinion isn't solely going to change shit. Of course I would be disappointed if I heard people use the word "fag" or the n-word. However, I'm not going to call them out unless I know them in real life. I'm sorry, I can't change the world or tell strangers how to behave. Maybe Falconfan and Nik2 can, but I can't.

The thing with Randy is that you almost expect him to be racist... just because of his age and background. I'm not saying that all old people from the south are racist, but they do have a tendency to be judgemental or biased towards a particular group. Nor am I saying it's "okay" for him or them to behave like that. But rather, it's commonplace and like most people, it doesn't shock me.

However with Kenny, a male from California, probably calling Charlie a "fag" is shocking because I normally wouldn't expect a person that educated, young, and from CA to use such a word. If that makes any sense...

 

[Laststraw21]

I hope either: Sugar, Corinne, Matty or Bob win.

Sugar cause she seems like a sweet girl and found that damn idol on her first try.
Corinne cause I think she's cute and have grown to liking her as time progressed.
Matt cause ... uh, just cause! But he does well in challenges and is a good competitor.
Bob cause he's the sweet grandpa that BB10 Jerry should have been but he turned out to be an ass. Bob on the other hand, is the sweet grandpa and it was nice to see him so happy when he got those letters from home.

Ken, Crystal, Suzie and Randy... I hope none of them win.

Ken was okay for a while but in this episode, he seemed full of himself.
I don't like either of Crystal's or Randy's attitudes.
And Suzie... Well, I wouldn't mind if she won. I was suprise when I saw her fire start.

 

[Aratron]

Do you remember in one of the videos Charlie and Marcus said the minute they got to Ponderosa together they admitted to each other that Charlie was a lawyer and Marcus went to Harvard? In other words they kept this from each other during the game.

Answer me this: why do you think they did that? If they weren't playing each other AT ALL during the game (as you contended for weeks), why keep anything a secret? Why not trust each other 100% with that information?

Not even Dan and Terry hid their jobs to each other and still Terry voted Dan out

 

[Gussss]

Not even Dan and Terry hid their jobs to each other and still Terry voted Dan out

Who's Terry?

 

[Aratron]

Who's Terry?

From Season 12, Panama: Exile Island. Dan too

 

[aijalon18]

Dude no one is denying that they can be good friends in real life. The game is over. Of course they can build a real friendship now. My point was during the game you can like someone but (for someone who was clearly trying to play the game like Marcus) most of your moves in the game are going to be motivated by the game. Now that he's outside the game, of course he can pursue a genuine friendship with Charlie.

Do you remember in one of the videos Charlie and Marcus said the minute they got to Ponderosa together they admitted to each other that Charlie was a lawyer and Marcus went to Harvard? In other words they kept this from each other during the game.

Answer me this: why do you think they did that? If they weren't playing each other AT ALL during the game (as you contended for weeks), why keep anything a secret? Why not trust each other 100% with that information?



I don't have to make Charlie look like anything. He does it all on his own with his needy, deluded personality. The only thing those Ponderosa videos prove is that Charlie is 100% deluded that something could happen between himself and Marcus and was playing that game for Marcus' approval, not for the money. Pathetic.

You really are an idiot. If you watch that episode, you'll see the first thing Kenny and his group emphasized was that Charlie and Corrine were tight and therefore needed to be split up first.

Also, who cares?? It makes perfect sense to vote out Charlie! He's likable and decent in competitions and therefore totally a threat to Kenny.

Niky, be nice. You can't call somebody an idiot and not expect an argument. We don't want the drama of the BB thread. I expect better from you since everyone knows what an evil genius and wordsmith you are. Are you gonna say that in court?

I agree it is ridiculous to be so angry at Kenny. Getting rid of Charlie was the smartest thing for Kenny. He really is one of the best players this season imo.

But I do disagree that CHarlie doesnt seem that delusional to me. I still think Marcus inadvertently sends mixed messages. He is so affectionate with Marcus. I'm not saying he is gay but if a "straight" guy is always hugging and embracing you and you like them it is bound to fuck with anyone's head, even yours i imagine sir.