System That Chums The Water – SPLIT II

[mikemizanin729]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Says the member who made a comment about a user in the "What do jubbers look like thread?" when he hasn't been here for weeks.



If you have a problem with posts of mine, report them. Instead of constantly dragging topics from one thread to another.

You mean like you do evertime you say "it's baiting don't be fooled" about everything in every thread in conversations that have nothing to do with you?.You did it here for no reason Lately that's what you and RB do. It's also making multiple posts containing the same thing.

It's you two who constantly do this.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Im not interested in arguing because it is the same shit time and time again. Someone gets banned, the same people are involved, things settle down and it happens again.

There is no point when nothing is done about it and the results will be the same. People will see, say do and apoligize for whatever they want to believe.

It is really tiring and it makes coming here a chore when it shouldn"t. This board really has become the most toxic it has ever been and it is really sad.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Im not interested in arguing because it is the same shit time and time again. Someone gets banned, the same people are involved, things settle down and it happens again.

There is no point when nothing is done about it and the results will be the same. People will see, say do and apoligize for whatever they want to believe.

It is really tiring and it makes coming here a chore when it shouldn"t. This board really has become the most toxic it has ever been and it is really sad.

Then I will say no more. I doesn't have to be toxic if we all just did our thing and arguments wouldn't break out.

That's all I have to say.

 

[Cormac135]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Im not interested in arguing because it is the same shit time and time again. Someone gets banned, the same people are involved, things settle down and it happens again.

There is no point when nothing is done about it and the results will be the same. People will see, say do and apoligize for whatever they want to believe.

It is really tiring and it makes coming here a chore when it shouldn"t. This board really has become the most toxic it has ever been and it is really sad.

Yes and we're all to blame for that, you as well.
I wish people would use the ignore feature more.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Yes and we're all to blame for that, you as well.
I wish people would use the ignore feature more.

The ignore feature is a cheap band aid that doesn't fix anything.

As far as what I am guilty of, it isn't the same as what you and a few other members are. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Cormac135]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

The ignore feature is a cheap band aid that doesn't fix anything.

As far as what I am guilty of, it isn't the same as what you and a few other members are. I'll leave it at that.

No it's much worse, it's toxic negativity.
And as we seem to have talked ourselves to a standstill, let's all move on and try to be nicer to each other.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Yeah, much worse.

 

[EvilTwinTwo]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

I don't play victim I have apologised to posters on here before when I feel arguments are going to far but even if Pat himself never rose to it it had become apparent that RB was out to ridicule him from.pillar to post including making bait threads just to look for a reaction. I mean I can understand if he was attacking a certain post but is it really necessary to make constant threads for no reason just to say "I bet Grimshaw would love this" ?


If that's not trolling then what is?

If your posts are all trolling as some people believe than your brilliant.

If they're real than its scarier than I thought.

 

[EvilTwinTwo]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Do not lay this at my door princess.

Grimshaw created thread after thread and made post after post full of malevolence and hate. He, more than any other poster has changed the dynamic and tone on JUB over the last year....making it a swamp of racial, religious,political and social intolerance. Many of his threads and posts were pure bait...so don't paint him as some kind of martyred saint.

To allow his most hateful positions and premises to go unchallenged would be to capitulate to indifference and by that, to allow ugly, de-humanizing statements to be the standard for JUB. Stalking be damned. If someone has the need to post an opinion....then each of us has the right... and I would say, the responsibility to respond to it if we find it to be anathema.

As much as Pat upset me sometimes (recently the Leelah thread) I think he had a way of exposing sometimes on the sly, sometimes in your face everyone hypocracy on JUB includingc my own.

If you want to talk about who was responsible for all the shit look no further than Bender and Cupid.

 

[Kabluey]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Didn't even notice Pat was gone, blocked his boring old trolly threads long ago.
The guy just wasn't bright enough to warrant attention.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

You don't want an apology. You enjoy playing butthurt too much. But you and Max keep the good times rollin'. I don't mind being the target of your vitriol and frustration.

And that's for Johan that man is a saint on JUB

 

[Cormac135]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

You don't want an apology. You enjoy playing butthurt too much. But you and Max keep the good times rollin'. I don't mind being the target of your vitriol and frustration.

Actually i do want an apology, i think it would go a long way to sorting out the bad blood between us.

I understand you won't want to lose face by posting it publicly so please feel free to send it in a pm or a post comment.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Re: People you miss seeing on here - after

Actually i do want an apology, i think it would go a long way to sorting out the bad blood between us.

I understand you won't want to lose face by posting it publicly so please feel free to send it in a pm or a post comment.

Yeah cause his PM's are so much sweeter.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Re: The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

I just wanted to point out something interesting is all.

All my time here I hardly ever reported posts, ever. I could count on my hand how many times I have reported. The last few weeks with all the nonsense going on I'd figure instead of arguing with the people involved I will just start reporting the posts.

Is there any thread you haven't reported as bait in the last few weeks, all you do here is search for reasons to start yet more aggro.

This post is by Cormac, now how would anyone know I have been reporting posts as baits in the last few weeks unless you were a mod? I feel like my time here is coming to and end because of the toxic playground that people like him and Mike see it as. I really honestly don't see a point in being here, especially with a post like that being conveniently revealing.

 

[Cormac135]

Re: The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

I just wanted to point out something interesting is all.

All my time here I hardly ever reported posts, ever. I could count on my hand how many times I have reported. The last few weeks with all the nonsense going on I'd figure instead of arguing with the people involved I will just start reporting the posts.



This post is by Cormac, now how would anyone know I have been reporting posts as baits in the last few weeks unless you were a mod? I feel like my time here is coming to and end because of the toxic playground that people like him and Mike see it as. I really honestly don't see a point in being here, especially with a post like that being conveniently revealing.

Well before the paranoia goes into overdrive, i can confirm what you all suspected. I am........................NOT a mod.

 

[medic1]

Re: The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

I personally would be saddened if you were to leave.

I always enjoy reading the posts you make, and you do give off a fantastic aura.

I too posted a few days ago about how toxic JUB has become in the last few weeks. I later posted that you really see the good
in members when we "band" together to show our sentiments about an event.

Please reconsider about being here. Regards Adam....

 

[johaninsc]

Re: The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

I just wanted to point out something interesting is all.

All my time here I hardly ever reported posts, ever. I could count on my hand how many times I have reported. The last few weeks with all the nonsense going on I'd figure instead of arguing with the people involved I will just start reporting the posts.

Is there any thread you haven't reported as bait in the last few weeks, all you do here is search for reasons to start yet more aggro.

This post is by Cormac, now how would anyone know I have been reporting posts as baits in the last few weeks unless you were a mod? I feel like my time here is coming to and end because of the toxic playground that people like him and Mike see it as. I really honestly don't see a point in being here, especially with a post like that being conveniently revealing.

for what it's worth, one of your posts from December 23rd, just a few weeks ago

It is true that the thread has become a vague insult thread where people are pretending they're only poking fun. I wouldn't waste energy on arguing with people and just reporting the posts that are more clearly baiting or insults.

...and Cormac posted just below it



I suspect rocket science isn't necessary with this one

 

[eastofeden]

Re: The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

I just wanted to point out something interesting is all.

All my time here I hardly ever reported posts, ever. I could count on my hand how many times I have reported. The last few weeks with all the nonsense going on I'd figure instead of arguing with the people involved I will just start reporting the posts.



This post is by Cormac, now how would anyone know I have been reporting posts as baits in the last few weeks unless you were a mod? I feel like my time here is coming to and end because of the toxic playground that people like him and Mike see it as. I really honestly don't see a point in being here, especially with a post like that being conveniently revealing.

I just figured he is one of the owners when so many people left en masse citing that one person and it all continued...to this day

I actually think he wants to get rid of alot of us. Is is kinda blatant. He doesn't really hide it.

I had to work with a few firestarters before...pitting people against each other and sitting enjoying it.

I hate to say it...but you will never win with this type of person...and like the coyote running down the dog until he is tired so they can attack...they will just bait you until YOU become the bad guy.

I think I have had enough myself.....the skin crawl factor with his little fuckhead lapdog is off the charts now...

The ignore function doesn't work since he manages to engage everyone anyway...life is too short....

To the people who I have enjoyed knowing here...thanks for the convo and the good company...you know who you are....

PS...HOW DO YOU DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT? Grrrr....

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Re: The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

for what it's worth, one of your posts from December 23rd, just a few weeks ago



...and Cormac posted just below it



I suspect rocket science isn't necessary with this one

I know what I posted but that doesn't give any indication of how much I have reported, especially the last few weeks when things have been getting heated on this board again after things were actually pretty tame here. It seemed weird and way too convenient of a comment. It is what it is.

The sad fact is that the same people that cause the stuff are the ones who are least likely to get into trouble, even if they want to be pretend to be White Knights. Any time things start to heat up they are always involved and I don't know why they try to deny otherwise, not only that but they try to paint other members as if they are the ones being the problem, with lies and vague insults.

I will bet that even if more and more members were to leave, they would find new members to fuck with. Those members being the ones who don't buy what they're selling or challenge the bullshit they spew.

I honestly don't think I will be here much longer, not just based on my own admission but by the fact of the things I am saying. This place was better before and not because of certain members or because it was less toxic, it is because it was better controlled and when things got too out of hand the members who constantly showed problems were shown the door. I remember that members who did what Bender originally did years ago got permanently banned (I could be wrong about this, but they weren't welcomed back with open arms by mods like he was), but he was given a second chance. Which was odd in of itself.

This post is almost completely pointless and the only reasoning I am posting more even if I might be digging myself a deeper hole is because of my better judgment, which is what leads me to get caught up in these messes to begin with.

It legitimately bothers me the way members get treated by more of a few of these members. And by no means am I saying that everyone that tends to be involved is completely innocent, but there is a clear view of who is more malicious and goes out of their way to make sure certain members don't enjoy their time here.

But it is what it is and there is nothing that can be done about it.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Re: The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

I know what I posted, but that doesn't give any indication of how much I have reported, .

I think he only meant that it's obvious to him that you would've reported.

I really do not go out of my way to make you feel miserable on here, but we do bitch between one another. All I want to do is post various threads on subjects of Interest to me.

I also believe that this has all heated up into something bigger than what it should be. I do not want to see a member go and can understand where you're coming from but I too feel the same about the baiting. It's obvious that RB will continue to do what he does, but do we have to do the same? NO


I think we should just fix it like adults because it makes for a healthier place to post in. We were talking pretty maturer to each other in the Paris Hilton thread so it proves that it can be done.