"take a camel" says Ann Coulter

[luminum]

Yeah, wasn't someone arrested in Kansas for ordering shota magazines?

 

[DiamondSkin]

I, and you, are free to call Ann Coulter "an ignorant fuck". Knock yourself out. I don't care.

That's what Freedom of Speech is all about.

Let anyone say anything, I say.

If you want to be a whining pussy, and scream "hate speech" go ahead. But it only makes you look like a loser, and a victim.

And denying people the right to say what they think makes you look like a fascist.

No one should deny anyone the right to speech.

However hate speech is hate speech.

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Thousands protested against her speech. It was THEIR right. And they won.

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[BlondeCanadian]

Because, who's defining "hate"? The majority? A religion? A political party?

This is what i was referring to...there is no one that would not identify what she is saying as hate....

and you never referred to my quotation of what exactly was told to her....and how that is different than your laws against slander

 

[DiamondSkin]

No one needs to believe whether she's right or not.

It's about the freedom to speak!

She can be as wrong as hell, or not. Let the market decide....

Hundreds of years ago, would you have been condemning Copernicus and his views?

Again, I notice you don't denounce her hate speech or her views.

Which is typical gay conservative behavior.

You're willing to defend her to the last because she' on YOUR 'team'.

She's not on your team, you silly little man.

She's a homophobe and would much like to see you dead.

She has the right to her views, yes.

But the rest of us are saying her views are racist, homophobic and plain prejudiced.

The fact that you haven't clearly shows you agree with her.

Pathetic.

 

[NineOfClubs]

I don't agree with her, but I defend to my death her right to say it.....

Call me a modern day Voltaire.

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[DiamondSkin]

I don't agree with her, but I defend to my death her right to say it.....

Call me a modern day Voltaire.

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Reported to Mods for inciting speech against fellow JUB members.

The irony here is palpable.

 

[BlondeCanadian]

a Modern day Voltaire? I almost puked a little.... I see you are o so very right wing....not being able to win a perfectly reasonable debate and when faced with hard facts you resort to rhetoric and personal memories...then resort of name calling and pretending we just dont get it..

 

[NineOfClubs]

Again, what a travesty to think that liberals support freedom.

DiamondSkin exemplifies it.

Report away, and dry those tears.....

 

[NineOfClubs]

a Modern day Voltaire? I almost puked a little.... I see you are o so very right wing....not being able to win a perfectly reasonable debate and when faced with hard facts you resort to rhetoric and personal memories...then resort of name calling and pretending we just dont get it..

Voltaire, by modern standards, would be considered right wing.

So, you think it's OK to say whatever you want, as long as the majority wouldn't object?

Wow. That's brave.

 

[MindBlast]

^ Whatever.

I remember all sorts of material seized at the border. For years.

Porn material perfectly legal in the States.

Supplying a vague anecdote sure has convinced me our porn laws are harsh. What a flawless argument!

 

[DiamondSkin]

Again, what a travesty to think that liberals support freedom.

DiamondSkin exemplifies it.

Report away, and dry those tears.....

Many Liberals support many freedoms as do Many conservatives.

The inability to distinct between liberals or conservatives who DON'T support freedom is clearly a flaw with you.

Have you forgotten the conservatives who continually lobby for anti-gay rights legislation that would deny gay people their own freedoms? No, you're just gonna ignore that. It disrupts your narrow world-view after all.

This is again typical of gay conservatives.

ALL liberals are fascists...but they act like there aren't conservatives who are anti-freedom of rights as well. They're quick to point out liberal faults but refuse to acknowledge anti-gay conservatives.

It's a reality they can't cope with, poor things.

 

[BlondeCanadian]

No i dont think Its okay for me to say things as long as the majority accepts it..... I think its okay for me to say things as long as I can substantiate my arguments with facts

 

[BlondeCanadian]

O and to save some time...when you come back asking to me support my argument : a Modern day Voltaire? I almost puked a little.... I see you are o so very right wing....not being able to win a perfectly reasonable debate and when faced with hard facts you resort to rhetoric and personal memories...then resort of name calling and pretending we just dont get it..

lets just say it is two in the morning and off of the top of my head il just say
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdtwN_twgrk[/ame]

and it is ridiculous to even think you can say Voltaire is right wing....the main portion of right wing philosophy entails economic philosophies...and they can not just be transplanted because the whole idea of working with credit and loaning changed everything about economic philosophies

 

[NineOfClubs]

Reported to Mods for inciting speech against fellow JUB members.

The irony here is palpable.

If you take offense to this, does that mean you consider yourself a fascist?

 

[NineOfClubs]

No i dont think Its okay for me to say things as long as the majority accepts it..... I think its okay for me to say things as long as I can substantiate my arguments with facts

So, I guess you can never discuss religion, or your feeling on such?

Because none of it is based on "facts" but only on faith.

Or you can't hypothesize on scientific speculation, life on other planets and such, because we lack "facts"?

 

[DiamondSkin]

If you take offense to this, does that mean you consider yourself a fascist?

No, darling, this is question you have to ask yourself.

People who take offense from hate speech and protest against it are fascists?

 

[NineOfClubs]

No, darling, this is question you have to ask yourself.

People who take offense from hate speech and protest against it are fascists?

No, people who deny others the right to speak have always been fascists.

It's almost a definition of fascist.....

 

[NineOfClubs]

Supplying a vague anecdote sure has convinced me our porn laws are harsh. What a flawless argument!

When I have more time, I'll send you links.

All sorts of US books, magazines, and publications were seized at the Canadian border.

Maybe it wasn't reported in your press, to assuage your tender feelings, but I'll send you the links, in a day or two...

 

[BlondeCanadian]

How can i not "So, I guess you can never discuss religion, or your feeling on such?

Because none of it is based on "facts" but only on faith.

Or you can't hypothesize on scientific speculation, life on other planets and such, because we lack "facts"?"

I can share my views on religions by showing the facts of what that religion has tangibly done to society....I do not understand what you are arguing?..... And I would hardly considering my believe on other planets being considered hateful by anyone at all... but while we are at it.. I do not believe in life on other planets because I have never seen life on other planets nor has anyone else.... or If i wanted to support the fact that there is life on other planets I could say that there is evidence of microorganisms on other planets that we have collected and there is evidence that other planets might be hospitable to life.... Are you following how an argument or viewpoint is proven by facts? or is this too outlandish for you

 

[DiamondSkin]

No, people who deny others the right to speak have always been fascists.

It's almost a definition of fascist.....

And that is true.

And those who protest against another's hate speech is simply another expression of speech.

Ann Coulter has insulted entire groups of people simply due to their sexual orientation, race or nationality.

She has to suffer the consequences of her speech. Thousands protested her and it drove her away.

Nothing is without consequence.

To deny consequence is itself a form of censorship