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[Taralen]

Re: Is gay for pay porn damaging to the gay/queer male community?

tl/dr???????

It's a reddit term meaning Too long didn't read. In other words, it's too much to take in, or I'm too lazy to read all of that.

It's kinda childish if you ask me.

If at this time he's not ready to give his opinion, and it's okay, he can come back to the thread at that time.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

That's not what I meant at all.

I'm saying why is it okay for straights to be open, but not for gays?

We're not even talking about sex, at all.

Having a picture of your boyfriend on your desk, is also being open at work, and supporting my point which you seem to be offensive over. Smh. lol.

There's that selective reading, I guess you missed the part where I said "gay or straight." And "open" can mean a lot of things which is why I gave an example. Picture of the boyfriend on the desk? Fine. Telling a coworker about how you managed to get tangled up in your sex chair during a threesome with your bf and his college football teammate is inappropriate. I despise people who act like they're chillin on the porch at work, talking casually about personal things that have no place in a work environment. Straight people are REALLY bad about this.

 

[mikey3000]

Re: Is there racism/discrimination in the gay male community?

I don't need to read it. I'm a black fag living in the south I know all about racism and discrimination.

Gee, I wonder why?

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should LGBT/queer teachers be open to their students?

If you read my OP.

There might be children in the class also struggling with issues, I know when I was young, and getting black eyes for being gay, it would have been nice to have that.

That sounds like something a counselor should handle. Being gay doesn't make a teacher equipped to handle someone struggling with their sexuality during critical development years where the slightest negative interaction or experience regarding their sexuality can send them spiraling eternally downward. Sexual orientation should only be discussed in sex/health class, that seems sufficient and an appropriate environment where the information can come from someone who knows what they're talking about.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

Because gay love and relationships are a fairly new concept in the US. Until recently you surpressed and denied, you married a woman, had a few kids and sex with men was something you did on weekends at 3am. Is it really rocket science that something that has been discouraged by our churches, schools, government, communities and families isn't super duper common? So what's left? Sex. You are a PRIME example of someone who is just utterly broken and despondent due to internalized homophobia, for someone who is made to feel less than for their entire lives, sometimes the only good feeling you can achieve is sex.

What would you like to know next, why interracial dating wasn't common in 1764?

That is a different issue. Yes gay men were more discreet back then, and married women and stuff like that. But they weren't nasty or sick about it.

They were sadly pressured into that lifestyle.

My point is, you said it yourself. The gay community has improved socially somewhat. It's no longer considered deviant or mentally ill in the western world, and in other parts of the world to be gay.

So to remedy that, that means people have to be over sexed and do all the issues I complained about in the OP? I don't think so. Sorry.

There is no need for gay men to act like that.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

There's that selective reading, I guess you missed the part where I said "gay or straight." And "open" can mean a lot of things which is why I gave an example. Picture of the boyfriend on the desk? Fine. Telling a coworker about how you managed to get tangled up in your sex chair during a threesome with your bf and his college football teammate is inappropriate. I despise people who act like they're chillin on the porch at work, talking casually about personal things that have no place in a work environment. Straight people are REALLY bad about this.

I agree with you that going into specifics on your sexual life is not needed at work, no.

But I do believe that gay men should feel free to be open about their sexuality, if they can.

For example, depending on who the person is, I myself probably wouldn't disclose too much information about my personal sexuality life, but I would still like to be open somewhat.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

There's that selective reading, I guess you missed the part where I said "gay or straight." And "open" can mean a lot of things which is why I gave an example. Picture of the boyfriend on the desk? Fine. Telling a coworker about how you managed to get tangled up in your sex chair during a threesome with your bf and his college football teammate is inappropriate. I despise people who act like they're chillin on the porch at work, talking casually about personal things that have no place in a work environment. Straight people are REALLY bad about this.

Depends on the workplace. I'd agree that that's largely unprofessional. There's a lot of businesses where it's maybe a handful of people, though, and conversation outside of general hearing can get snuck in. Specifically I'm thinking of 'women's work' as the kitchen convo sometimes got out there. Tho to be fair, I've never actually heard men gossip less. And I certainly wouldn't advise it if it were in a more 'dealing with the public' sphere, like retail. Even with gossip though, you keep it short n'sweet. A 20 minute graphic story was never on the menu for the entire staff.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

There is no need for gay men to act like that.

1. Who made you the authority to tell gay men how to act?

It's no longer considered deviant or mentally ill in the western world, and in other parts of the world to be gay.

Tht

That doesn't stop you from sulking and self-loathing. Other people are entitled to misery as well, you know this? We're not at the mountaintop yet, the damage has been done. You can't treat people like shit for a really really really long time, then say "Nevermind you're cool" and expect everything to be ok 5 minutes later.

There are still gay Americans who cut themselves or engage in self-destructive behaviors because the climate in America is not 100% tolerant. So, your question has been answered. That's what you wanted, right? I'm not justifying or excusing, I'm explaining. This is what humans do. This is how they are motivated. This is how they think. This is how they behave. This is how they react. Sorry if it wasn't the answer you wanted.

PS: You curse on this profile, on your BGC profile you swore you never cursed.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Should LGBT/queer teachers be open to their students?

That sounds like something a counselor should handle. Being gay doesn't make a teacher equipped to handle someone struggling with their sexuality during critical development years where the slightest negative interaction or experience regarding their sexuality can send them spiraling eternally downward. Sexual orientation should only be discussed in sex/health class, that seems sufficient and an appropriate environment where the information can come from someone who knows what they're talking about.

Yes I agree.

But when you have a teacher who is gay, but is being closeted deliberately, and there are students in their class who are also dealing with queer issues as well. You still believe the same?

 

[Dominus]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

Nobody should be open in the workplace. Talking about who you fucked last weekend is not only unprofessional it's against sexual harassment policy for every single business on US soil. Anything beyond having a picture of your boyfriend on your desk is oversharing and doesn't belong in the workplace, gay or straight.

Being gay is much much more than who you fucked last Saturday. I'm sorry if someone had previously misled you.

People in my office talk about their wives and kids all the time. I talk about my partner and I, also. Heck, last time my boss came back from vacation, he showed everyone pictures of his wife and daughters while on vacation. No need to say he fucked his wife last week.

I have made a comfortable life with my gay spouse. Everyone at my company knows this. My company takes pride in being a family more than just a collection of office drones. We regularly have events where everyone's family is invited. So, you see, being gay or straight is much more than who you fucked yesterday.

I'm sorry you have been misled all this time. My partner and I certainly don't treat our relationship as purely sexual.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

1. Who made you the authority to tell gay men how to act?

Tht

That doesn't stop you from sulking and self-loathing. Other people are entitled to misery as well, you know this? We're not at the mountaintop yet, the damage has been done. You can't treat people like shit for a really really really long time, then say "Nevermind you're cool" and expect everything to be ok 5 minutes later.

There are still gay Americans who cut themselves or engage in self-destructive behaviors because the climate in America is not 100% tolerant. So, your question has been answered. That's what you wanted, right? I'm not justifying or excusing, I'm explaining. This is what humans do. This is how they are motivated. This is how they think. This is how they behave. This is how they react. Sorry if it wasn't the answer you wanted.

PS: You curse on this profile, on your BGC profile you swore you never cursed.

Yeah I guess that's one theory I suppose.

But it's still an issue and something I see as a problem.

I don't know what BGC is. Bad Girls Club? What.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

I agree with you that going into specifics on your sexual life is not needed at work, no.

But I do believe that gay men should feel free to be open about their sexuality, if they can.

For example, depending on who the person is, I myself probably wouldn't disclose too much information about my personal sexuality life, but I would still like to be open somewhat.

Still too vague with "open." Do you mean a coworker asks what you did this weekend and you say "Me and my bf went to the mall?" That's fine. Unprofessional but not wildly so. Then again asking your about your personal life in the first place is already stepping on thin ice. This is exactly why I don't engage like that at work because once you blur the line you're gonna have "Well he was talking about this so why can't I talk about that?" Keep it neutral and focus on your task, you're not there to socialize you're there to perform a task.

Until you say what exactly the fuck you mean by "be open" (could mean a zillion things) we're just gonna keep going in circles. I'm not saying we should deny who we are or hide, but the workplace is not a suitable environment for any kind of self-expression, that's why most jobs make you [STRIKE]read[/STRIKE] sign agreements to different policies about acceptable and non-acceptable workplace behavior.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

Being gay is much much more than who you fucked last Saturday. I'm sorry if someone had previously misled you.

People in my office talk about their wives and kids all the time. I talk about my partner and I, also. Heck, last time my boss came back from vacation, he showed everyone pictures of his wife and daughters while on vacation. No need to say he fucked his wife last week.

I have made a comfortable life with my gay spouse. Everyone at my company knows this. My company takes pride in being a family more than just a collection of office drones. We regularly have events where everyone's family is invited. So, you see, being gay or straight is much more than who you fucked yesterday.

I'm sorry you have been misled all this time. My partner and I certainly don't treat our relationship as purely sexual.

Pretty sure he was contrasting socially acceptable communication strategies with not so socially acceptable communication cation strategies.

Me, I think it's just fine not to tell people a damn thing unless ya want to. Some people don't want to share their life at work, that's perfectly understandable. I don't give a shit about who my coworker did last Monday and I don't feel 'dropping hints' is going to change my mind on the matter of their sexuality either way.

I do find the whole thing irritating; such discussion usually means my answers would seem way out there. I find a little white lie much smoother going than what I actually did last weekend, as a hypothetical. It would be much simpler if that kind of conversation was left by the wayside but it's also how people smooth over forced contact. Can't really get rid of it.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

Being gay is much much more than who you fucked last Saturday. I'm sorry if someone had previously misled you.

Reading is fundamental. I specifically gave an example of what I considered appropriate, and referred to a "husband" in that scenario which would indicate a committed, long-term relationship. This conversation isn't "what being gay is about" it's "What's appropriate in the workplace." so I gave examples on both ends of the spectrum. Calm your tits, Lydia.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Why are straight people not interested in your personal life being gay?

Then find some new straight friends. This time, ones that aren't dickheads.

I'd rather not, and just get a boyfriend and that would be nice.

So I know at least this man loves me and he's coming home from me.

Not a straight guy who I have to always be on pins and needles with and around. Even in my motherfucking thoughts.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: Should LGBT/queer teachers be open to their students?

Yes I agree.

But when you have a teacher who is gay, but is being closeted deliberately, and there are students in their class who are also dealing with queer issues as well. You still believe the same?

Yes. Your life is just that. Yours. Its not 'your life is now in an accessible format for everyone because now you do X'. Christ, basic concepts.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Is there racism/discrimination in the gay male community?

Gee, I wonder why?

Because Americans don't have a rich history of playing well with others.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Why are straight people not interested in your personal life being gay?

I'd rather not, and just get a boyfriend and that would be nice.

So I know at least this man loves me and he's coming home from me.

Not a straight guy who I have to always be on pins and needles with and around. Even in my motherfucking thoughts.

You're not ready for a boyfriend. Nowhere near. I'd be scared if you bought a fish.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

Yeah I guess that's one theory I suppose.

But it's still an issue and something I see as a problem.

I don't know what BGC is. Bad Girls Club? What.

It's not a theory it's how human behavior works. After hundreds of thousands of years we haven't changed. Our technology, yes, but not our motivations, hopes, fears, et cetera. Still the same at the root.

If it's an issue then become part of the solution. Pass out condoms outside a club. Volunteer at a youth center for displaced LGBT. Donate old clothes. OR... come to JUB and bitch about it day in and day out, makes me no nevermind.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Re: Is gay for pay porn damaging to the gay/queer male community?

It’s not a reddit term, it’s general internet lingo.

I gave my opinion on your threads before, I’m not really interested after reading your replies to mine or other people’s because you never seem to actually listen or just have a bad attitude about it.

These posts are long winded when I doubt they really need to be.