On Topic Discussion Taralen's 2018 Random Musings About Life...

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should LGBT/queer teachers be open to their students?

Yes I agree.

But when you have a teacher who is gay, but is being closeted deliberately, and there are students in their class who are also dealing with queer issues as well. You still believe the same?

Congratulations, you've just discovered irony. What part of "I don't want fragile sexually confused adolescents' well-being put in the hands of any random teacher just because they're the same orientation" was unclear? Health ed is a required course, every single student on American soil takes it so there is zero room for even a single gay person to not hear the information they need to develop a healthy understanding of their sexuality. And for good measure the health ed teacher can give an open invitation for any students with personal questions to make an appointment with the counselor, which I believe every school has. Bases covered, no?

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: Should LGBT/queer teachers be open to their students?

Congratulations, you've just discovered irony. What part of "I don't want fragile sexually confused adolescents' well-being put in the hands of any random teacher just because they're the same orientation" was unclear? Health ed is a required course, every single student on American soil takes it so there is zero room for even a single gay person to not hear the information they need to develop a healthy understanding of their sexuality. And for good measure the health ed teacher can give an open invitation for any students with personal questions to make an appointment with the counselor, which I believe every school has. Bases covered, no?

Well, no, health classes can have very little information and depending on the school, outright lies. That said, a science teacher's job is not that of a counselor. They can get in trouble for that, I'm pretty sure.

 

[Charon]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

You're saying that like it's a bad thing.

Like Cormac said:

As a gay man i prefer fucking anyone and everyone i want to.

 

[Charon]

Re: Is having a racial/body/personality preference preference okay?

 

[nycguydowntown]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

80% of men are sex crazed --gay or straight---it can be a little harder to get a girl in bed after talking to them for 10 min but according to my numerous straight friends---they are catching up with the gays.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should LGBT/queer teachers be open to their students?

Well, no, health classes can have very little information and depending on the school, outright lies. That said, a science teacher's job is not that of a counselor. They can get in trouble for that, I'm pretty sure.

I should've mentioned that all of this assumed an updated and inclusive sex ed curriculum which I'm aware many schools, probably mostly in the south, are lacking (I know there are some that still teach abstinence vs safe sex). So I was being kinda idealistic. And I didn't mean for the students to use the science teacher as a counselor, just as a source of info about sexuality and then if they need someone to talk to beyond that, that's when you go to the counselor which the science teacher should invite his students to do.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

Still too vague with "open." Do you mean a coworker asks what you did this weekend and you say "Me and my bf went to the mall?" That's fine. Unprofessional but not wildly so. Then again asking your about your personal life in the first place is already stepping on thin ice. This is exactly why I don't engage like that at work because once you blur the line you're gonna have "Well he was talking about this so why can't I talk about that?" Keep it neutral and focus on your task, you're not there to socialize you're there to perform a task.

Until you say what exactly the fuck you mean by "be open" (could mean a zillion things) we're just gonna keep going in circles. I'm not saying we should deny who we are or hide, but the workplace is not a suitable environment for any kind of self-expression, that's why most jobs make you [STRIKE]read[/STRIKE] sign agreements to different policies about acceptable and non-acceptable workplace behavior.

It depends on the job.

Most jobs, your'e interacting with other coworkers every single day.

Some jobs, it's very independent, or they work by themselves.

Fuck, some people own their own business and don't' deal with people at all. etc.

So it depends.

In that case, me myself personally, it would be foolish to not be a open somewhat.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Is there racism/discrimination in the gay male community?

I don't need to read it. I'm a black fag living in the south I know all about racism and discrimination. Is there anything new that's supposed to be added to this convo that hasn't been said ad nauseam?

Yes.

What can we do to help this issue?

 

[Dominus]

Re: Why are straight people not interested in your personal life being gay?

OP, again your assumptions are way off base here. My boss asks me about my partner all the time. People in my office and I share about our experiences in our respective relationships all the time.

Again, I must ask if you speak from experience or if you're just imagining things to make yourself a victim?

 

[Taralen]

Re: Why are straight people not interested in your personal life being gay?

You're not ready for a boyfriend. Nowhere near. I'd be scared if you bought a fish.

So I should just kill myself then? Wow.

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OP, again your assumptions are way off base here. My boss asks me about my partner all the time. People in my office and I share about our experiences in our respective relationships all the time.

Again, I must ask if you speak from experience or if you're just imagining things to make yourself a victim?

I speak from experience.

 

[Charon]

Re: Is there racism/discrimination in the gay male community?

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

You and the damned prudery, I swear. I didn't transition just to see the same finger-wagging 'keep your legs closed, it lacks love!' bullshit. They're not any more sex crazed than anyone else, hookups and sex specific places are just the way it's expressed since 'public dating' was a no-go. There's no shortage of that for the straight population either, including seedy dives and venues where you probably don't want to touch anything without gloves, at the very least. There's also situations where straight people aren't excepted kink-wise, venues exist for that, too, along similar 'public knowledge prolly isn't a safe bet' reasoning.

 

[Elwood]

Re: Why is the gay community so promiscious and sex crazed?

For example, women who are on straight escort sites are not hired to have sex. If you do have sex with her, it's considered prostitution and it's illegal. They are just hired to accompany the man at an event etc. Yet here in the gay community, that's quite the opposite. An escort is a guy you call to strictly have sex with quickly and discreet as possible. I don't get it.

Haha you really don’t believe that do you? No man is going to hire a woman just to accompany him somewhere. That is the wording they use to get around it being called prostitution. Also you say there are no straight apps for sex have you not heard of Tinder.

And why are gay men promiscuous because sex is fun and we have attached this puritan image to sex that should not be there. If a woman is promiscuous she is labeled a slut by our crazy norms! Also there is no risk of pregnancy with gay men and men know what the want! Hey I am horny ok let’s have sex easy peasy!

Sex is natural and fun and we have turned it into something evil and Taboo gay men are the ones who have it right!

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

It depends on the job.

Most jobs, your'e interacting with other coworkers every single day.

Some jobs, it's very independent, or they work by themselves.

Fuck, some people own their own business and don't' deal with people at all. etc.

So it depends.

In that case, me myself personally, it would be foolish to not be a open somewhat.

Interacting with coworkers = asking them where the report is, or to help you lift something. You do not HAVE to socialize in order to perform your job and in fact many workplaces specifically ask that you don't, for a million reasons.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Why are straight people not interested in your personal life being gay?

So I should just kill myself then? Wow.

Not at all what I said and if you genuinely feel that way and aren't crying for attention you need counseling asap.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Is there racism/discrimination in the gay male community?

Yes.

What can we do to help this issue?

Education, outreach, socio-political activism.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Is there racism/discrimination in the gay male community?

This one's better

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

Interacting with coworkers = asking them where the report is, or to help you lift something. You do not HAVE to socialize in order to perform your job and in fact many workplaces specifically ask that you don't, for a million reasons.

Yes, but socialization is mandatory despite paperwork. Part of why few people enjoy working with the socially handicapped and part of 'accidental personality conflict/'not a good fit'' workplace discrimination. It's often a disability specific issue.

 

[Taralen]

Re: Can gay and straight men be friends?

Taralen, there is a thread here asking us if most of our friends are gay or straight. Then answers seem to indicate most gays have more straight friends than you think. Sexuality is not much of a determining factor in friendship.

So I'm ET the alien then?

Why are my experiences with straight men the opposite?

What are they doing right, which I'm doing wrong?

Why isn't my side and issue also understood as well?

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Re: Should queer people be open at their workplace?

Yes, but socialization is mandatory despite paperwork. Part of why few people enjoy working with the socially handicapped and part of 'accidental personality conflict/'not a good fit'' workplace discrimination.

Problem is soooooooooooooo many don't know where the line is and others know and cross it anyway, just seems like more trouble than it's worth. I used to work in human resources so I got to deal with all sorts of fraternization, harassment, he said this she said that so I'm hellafied sensitive to unprofessional workplace chatter.