Taylor Swift [merged]

[Dduder]

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Hi.

I'm as desperate as they come.

And I'm not even close to wanting anything to do with you and your homophobic dick.

Who said I want you? Stop flattering yourself. I wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole. You seem to me as the typical American airhead chick who follows all PC lies and crap without thinking for yourself. You probably are unable to think by yourself anyways. Lol. And how am I homophobic For observing that gay men on average are less masculine than straight men? How does that make me homophobic? Homophobic is hating gays, which I don't. There is nothing wrong with being effeminate. This is a value-judgement that you guys are making, not me.

 

[Dduder]

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You're right, there's nothing homophobic about saying that "gay men can't think rationally"!

When have I said that? Stop putting these words into my mouth. I said that lots of gay men are unable to reason in discussions about the masculinity of gay men because they are too emotionally vested in wishing that there are no differences in masculinity between straight and gay men. That's all I said. Nice playing with semantics.

 

[gsdx]

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LMAO, who said I need an excuse to win the argument? I won the argument. I was logical in my argumentation and used evidence to back up my claims.

No, you didn't win. I and others here contradict your evidence. Until you prove to me that I undeniably exhibit gay feminine characteristics, I will continue to contradict your evidence. And sorry, but watching The Golden Girls just doesn't cut it.

Besides, you haven't answered my earlier question to you:

Now, if you are gay curious, what feminine traits do you exhibit? By your own admission through your own arguments, you must have them whether or not you want to admit to them.

If you don't have any, then don't you dare tell me that I do. What's good for the gander is good for the goose. (And 'no', I didn't misquote that. I switched it around on purpose.)

 

[alley]

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My bf just bought her new CD...god, I hate her whiny/thin voice.

 

[altlover85]

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No, you didn't win. I and others here contradict your evidence. Until you prove to me that I undeniably exhibit gay feminine characteristics, I will continue to contradict your evidence. And sorry, but watching The Golden Girls just doesn't cut it.

You still can't let that go, can you?

As far as Dduder goes, I've addressed your posts in another thread and yet you haven't responded to those things.

I didn't go to this thread because I had a feeling it would quickly degenerate into another gay men and gender thread. Why don't you just keep it about Taylor Swift? If people bring up other things, ignore it. And while you're at it, ask for this thread to be moved to the Straight and Bi Men forum.

It's likely you didn't ignore it because you just wanted another excuse to spout the same things you've been saying over and over again.

 

[LiquidSky]

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She's cute and seems like a nice girl but cannot sing live. Yikes.

 

[gsdx]

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You still can't let that go, can you?

As far as Dduder goes, I've addressed your posts in another thread and yet you haven't responded to those things.

I've responded to many posts aimed at me. I'm not going to respond to every single one since they invariably insult me by telling me something about myself which isn't true.

If watching The Golden Girls is the sole basis of your insistence that I'm effeminate, then you don't have much of an argument. Did it ever occur to you that it's a funny programme? Probably not. You're hung up on using that as ammunition, and it's the only bullet you have. You're not likely to find another one.

You might have the right of Free Speech, but that doesn't give you the right to make accusations about me and others here with only your 'opinions' as valid proof. It's one thing to state your belief that gay men have inherent effeminate qualities. It's another thing to tell someone that he has inherent effeminate qualities and that he's full of shit because he says he doesn't.

That is the problem here. You and the others have not merely been expressing your opinions; you've been universally applying them to real people and telling them that they are in denial when they say that you are wrong. That has been our argument all along. This is not a debate. It's a bloody witch hunt to which there is no defence and for which there is no excuse. But you and your friends are too busy branding and labelling us to see that.

 

[Dduder]

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No, you didn't win. I and others here contradict your evidence.

When have you contradicted my evidence? The evidence is overwhelming: gay men on average tend to exhibit more feminine characteristics than straight men evident by their interests, mannerisms and career choices. This is simply undeniable.

Until you prove to me that I undeniably exhibit gay feminine characteristics, I will continue to contradict your evidence.

Nice strawman. When have I said anything about you? Seriously? Stop lying, dude. I said that gay men on average tend to be less masculine than straight men. I never said anything about you or that all gay men have feminine characteristics.

And sorry, but watching The Golden Girls just doesn't cut it.

LOL! So you think you watching the Golden Girls doesen't make you different from straight men and more similar to straight women? How many heterosexual men watch the Golden Girls? None that I am aware of. Conversely, lots of gay guys and straight girls watch the Golden Girls. That is girlish all the way. Sorry. And straight men don't watch the Golden Girls because they are repressed or encouraged by Society to be interested in manly things: they do not watch it because they are simply not interested in it.

Besides, you haven't answered my earlier question to you:
If you don't have any, then don't you dare tell me that I do. What's good for the gander is good for the goose. (And 'no', I didn't misquote that. I switched it around on purpose.)

What's good for the gander is good for the goose? This applies to moral standards but not for facts. A man who posses no feminine characteristics can observe and believe that a man who posseses feminine characteristics posses feminine characteristics. Having feminine characteristics is not a conditione sine qua non for pointing out that another man has feminine characteristics. Logic is not your strong suit.

Also, I never said you had any feminine characteristics until you mentioned that you watch the Golden Girls. Sorry, but I do think that is girlish. What I said in my posts was that on average gay men have less masculine characteristics than straight men. But you know that. You just come up with strawman arguments because you can't debate me for the facts. Lol.

 

[AlmondMilk]

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I can't stand Taylor's singing...but she seems like a very humble person in her interviews and whatnot. I like her, but just not her singing

 

[Dduder]

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You have me down to a "T." I am all that, and a bag of chips too. Yup.

You are homophobic no matter which way you put it. You can scramble the words in different orders or use words with the same meanings to describe the same things, but in the end you are still extremely homophobic.

At least we do agree on one thing though. Let's hope we're never the only two people on the planet, 'cause this place would be FUCKED.

So much emotion with no logic. I can almost see you beating your keyboard and pulling your hair as you wrote this. Do you have anything intelligent to add to this discussion or will you just keep making your typically emotion filled posts?

 

[Dduder]

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You said that verbatim in the big thread. Don't lie now.

I even pointed it out to you, and you refused to retract it.

You need to put the quote into context. As is written, it doesen't imply that gay men are incapable of reason, but rather that gay men are not willing to reason when it comes to the topic of the masculinity of gay men because they are too emotionally vested into wanting for there to be no differences between straight and gay men besides their sexual preference. That is what I meant here. Two possibilities:

1. Your English reading comprehension is bad.

2. You know what I meant, but are taking a contextual quote literally as an attemtp to make me have said something I didn't meant so as to make my quote more offensive than it really was and make ad hominem invective on moi.

I believe it is the second option. You maliciously interpreted a quote literally because you want to make me look like someone who has contempt for gay men. How shameful of you.

 

[Lube]

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Seriously, you are way out of line here. You are lucky that we are not face to face. How about treating people with respect? Seriously, you wouldn't say that to my face. You can be sure of that.

You conveniently ignored my point, which is that vaginas are just as dirty as assholes are. And you can clean both of them.

Why would licking or fucking a clean vagina be any less dirty than licking or fucking a clean ass, keeping in mind that one or more days a month blood and dead tissue gets exuded from the vagina of sexually mature women?

 

[Krakenbwool]

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This reminds me of those studies that people used to do about blacks being intellectually inferior to whites. Which were completely valid, by the way, if you considered that the studies did show that on average blacks scored lower than whites academically. In the same way that, yes, it's true that on average gay men are less "masculine" than straight men.

But that says something about the way people are socialized more than anything biological.

 

[fetaby]

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because they are too emotionally vested into wanting for there to be no differences between straight and gay men besides their sexual preference.

So that's the shell, but where's the creamy filling?

What is the purpose? What do gay men get out of this? Why the need?

 

[Bichubinfl]

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yes she is

 

[altlover85]

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I've responded to many posts aimed at me. I'm not going to respond to every single one since they invariably insult me by telling me something about myself which isn't true.

If watching The Golden Girls is the sole basis of your insistence that I'm effeminate, then you don't have much of an argument. Did it ever occur to you that it's a funny programme? Probably not. You're hung up on using that as ammunition, and it's the only bullet you have. You're not likely to find another one./QUOTE]

I never said you were effeminate. I said you had a feminine side.

LOL! So you think you watching the Golden Girls doesen't make you different from straight men and more similar to straight women? How many heterosexual men watch the Golden Girls? None that I am aware of. Conversely, lots of gay guys and straight girls watch the Golden Girls. That is girlish all the way. Sorry. And straight men don't watch the Golden Girls because they are repressed or encouraged by Society to be interested in manly things: they do not watch it because they are simply not interested in it.

I half agree with you. I think watching The Golden Girls can be feminine depending on the reason why you watch it. I'm sure straight men watched The Golden Girls when they were on. I'm sure some straight men watch it now.

This reminds me of those studies that people used to do about blacks being intellectually inferior to whites. Which were completely valid, by the way, if you considered that the studies did show that on average blacks scored lower than whites academically. In the same way that, yes, it's true that on average gay men are less "masculine" than straight men.

But that says something about the way people are socialized more than anything biological.

I agree with you there.

 

[diamondstar]

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Taylor Swift is indeed a beautiful girl, but I could care less about her music.

 

[Dduder]

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You'd like to believe that you bring out emotion in me, but the truth is, you don't. I am actually smiling and laughing as I type these responses. Sorry if that's not the right emotion for you, but you truly make me giggle.

You can call me stupid all day and all night. It's cute.

 

[Dduder]

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You conveniently ignored my point, which is that vaginas are just as dirty as assholes are. And you can clean both of them.

Why would licking or fucking a clean vagina be any less dirty than licking or fucking a clean ass, keeping in mind that one or more days a month blood and dead tissue gets exuded from the vagina of sexually mature women?

I ignored your question because I find you a very rude obnoxious person and you insulted me by asking me to do that.

But if you must know the answer, vaginal fluids are not nearly as disgusting as shit, and as for menstrual blood, it is disgusting, yes, but I never claimed that I like to eat pussy so I fail to see your point. And whilst I find the idea of licking shit or blood equally disgusting, having a little bit of blood on my penis is less disgusting than shit. And that point is moot because women are only menstruated 3 days out of the month but there is always residual shit in the anus.

And here's the thing...my original point was not about the filfthiness of assholes but rather that vaginas were made to be penetrated whilst anuses were not. The anus get shaffed and the nervous endings get destroyed causing pain when it is penetrated because it was not made to be penetrated. But the vagina is perfect for penetration as it was made for penetration.

 

[fetaby]

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http://inventorspot.com/articles/think_you_drink_fecal_material_found_sodas_fountain_dispensers_36377

I'll just leave this here....