Tell me more about Andreus

[star-warrior]

(no doubt I'll be next in line for investigating now)

 

[xbuzzerx]

Star Trek TNG. Season 4.

Episode: The Drumhead

I remember that one!



And yes, JohannBessler is now getting a bit carried away with all of this and is accusing JUBbers left right and centre and imagining grand conspiracies in his head with no doubt hundreds of fake JUBbers.

The fact that Stacy has been in person to a JUB meet, and that Jasun is as real a person as you can possibly get (YouTube, his own website, his credit on porn vids) doesn't seem to matter.

He's like the JUB version of McCarthy.

(no doubt I'll be next in line for investigating now)

People here are imagining that anyone has made any serious accusation that Stacy is fake. If I recall it only came up as a "sure I wondered if you were real once but.."

 

[weinerslav]

@Stacy:

That being said, I now know 1) Jasun's full name 2) his place of domicile 3) his likely relatives. And I found this information in less than five minutes.

Ladies and gentlemen, don't underestimate the power of good detective work.

Are you aware that now, me, and probably other people too, are afraid of you???
And I don't have anything to hide!! Imagine if I did!!!

 

[xbuzzerx]

There were two things in question: whether or not I was fake and whether or not I was pulling the strings. The fact that I am a real person who can be researched on Google does not prove that I did not post as the user known as Andreus for a period of time.

I don't understand, are you volunteering suspicion for yourself?

Johann said he DIDN'T think you did such a thing...

yet everyone's acting like OMG WHO'S NEXT! ACCUSATIONS FLY!

 

[TheLyingGame]

I think you don't know enough about the net if you don't know this hasn't been done ad nauseum all over the net since IRC days.

Thanks, but i'm not that stupid.

I meant you would have to be seriously deranged to keep it going for this long.

 

[frankfrank]

I'm not sure if I'm the first to notice this, seeing as I read this entire thread in one sitting, I can't remember every single detail, but....

Andreus' profile is showing his last activity as being 26th November this year...??

Real or not, dead or not, someone's been logged into that account, and it seems timed perfectly with this thread becoming such a 'Hot Topic'.

GOOD CATCH, LaughOutLoud!

Stefan Zweig told me to 'Beware of Pity'

Yes, you must beware of that place - it's the one that has the crocodiles in it.

And Pit G has a geyser which erupts at least once per hour, sometimes as often as seven times in an hour, with no predictability or warning at all.

Pit X and Pit Z, on the other hand, are entirely safe and nothing dangerous is there.

She knows that we know that she knows that we know.

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Sorry, I really wanted to simply link to the song on YouTube or something, but it doesn't seem to be there.

I would love for a moderator to confirm the functionality of the "last activity" feature. Does it require the individual to log in?

If so, it would represent the first interesting thing here that rises beyond navel-gazing speculation, and it would be highly indicative of the truth.

I'm almost certain that an individual needs to log in, to show activity in a user account, and I'm not a Mod. What Quasar has asked about, I think, is whether a Mod actually has the power to override the password of a user account, in any way, to access an account. I have my doubts about that, otherwise vBulletin would have the reputation of being NOT secure. On the other hand, I guess there are tweaks and options available.

Corny? He would know, surely.

Somebody else asked the IP question...I've logged into JUB from various IP's because I do a lot of traveling and am often far from my home IP. (I don't have, nor have ever had, any desire to post under anything besides my primary - and only - username here...or elsewhere on the internet.)

I'm trying to think of a scenario that could be "real" that would explain all this, but I can't think of one.

I don't think that anybody here, even anybody with the most robust imagination possible, could have foreseen how much activity this thread would get. This is the type of thread which usually falls below Page 3 within a couple of days.

 

[xbuzzerx]

^I am pointing out the many facets of what is going on in this thread.

Stacy I believe there's a pretty stark difference between "for all I know offline you have a different hair color than you said you did" and you stating, with confirmation from someone else claiming to know you, that you live on Vicker Street in Miami and we find out that no such street exists anywhere in Miami.

 

[MidnightPrism]

I admit it. I once used a sock puppet to post here. The profile has probably long since been deleted.

I was ROSE NYLUND.
(The artist formerly known as Andreus was Sophia Petrillo.)

 

[weinerslav]

I apologize that my detective work has made you feel uncomfortable, but did you see the Title of The Thread?

It's all directly germane to the discussion.

If that was about my comment I was just kidding, really, I'm finding all this very amusing, and I have to take you my hat Mr. johann, I'm quite sure few would do better... (well, in the start, not now, you already gave your secret tools away lol).

 

[wundersteve]

I thought of that possibility, too, Borg.

Someone privately PMed me and told me that there was always considerable doubt that Kahil and Andreus had actually met in person.

- - - Updated - - -

Exactly. I have been here since 2004 and that was my understanding as well - that they never met in person.

I always thought the "death" was hard to believe, especially since it was never explained in detail, and there was no obituary or other corroboration other than the brother's posts.

Many of Andreus' posts strained credulity:

- former prostitute turned devout Muslim
- shot in Iraq
- HIV +
- dying for unclear reasons at very young age.

Without better confirmation, I didn't, and don't, buy any of it.

 

[ChickenGuy]

No don't worry I wasn't uncomfortable or anything like that Johann, and indeed I did my own detective work in my first post a few pages back, it's just that you're going off on a bit of a wild tangent. I'm quite certain neither Stacy or Jasun or 99.9% of other JUBbers are relevant to the topic at hand.

 

[oakpope]

I'm beginning to wonder if we're not two on these forum, and all others posters are all the same !

Guess the men in white will appear soon.

I'm afraid.

 

[oakpope]

By the way why sockpuppets and not simply puppets ?

 

[weinerslav]

- former prostitute turned devout Muslim
- shot in Iraq
- HIV +
- dying for unclear reasons at very young age.

Without better confirmation, I didn't, and don't, buy any of it.

I actually have a question, I hope it doesn't seem inappropriate or plain ignorant, the positive post started in January, the disappearance was in September so, let's say that since getting infected and dying was a year or maybe a year and a half? It seems a reasonable period of time for all the events take place, as told... Would this really be possible? I'm not sure but even in the beginnings of the disease (in the early 80's) this would be seen as a really quick evolution no? This period for all this kind of events it's plausible? Specially knowing that he was medicated and only interrupted, whatever, during the Ramadan. I'm only asking because I really don't have a clue and if yes, I hadn't the idea of the condition still represent this kind of danger

 

[ChickenGuy]

Many of Andreus' posts strained credulity:

- former prostitute turned devout Muslim
- shot in Iraq
- HIV +
- dying for unclear reasons at very young age.

And Mitri:

- had behavioural problems from an open air head wound
- fell down a flight of stairs
- was convicted of arson
- is now in prison

^ All that from what BostonPirate said in the first page of this thread.

And leaving aside the fact that I've NEVER known in the history of JUB for there to be two brothers on this site, much less two gay ones (unless anyone can correct me on that)

I do wish that BostonPirate would come back in here and answer a few of these legitimate points that people are making. Although to be fair, I can see why he's now avoiding this thread. Whether he's true or false it'd be like the Spanish Inquisition, lol.

 

[mikey3000]

LOL! Good Lord! I'm suspicious of EVERYONE now.

 

[wundersteve]

I actually have a question, I hope it doesn't seem inappropriate or plain ignorant, the positive post started in January, the disappearance was in September so, let's say that since getting infected and dying was a year or maybe a year and a half? It seems a reasonable period of time for all the events take place, as told... Would this really be possible? I'm not sure but even in the beginnings of the disease (in the early 80's) this would be seen as a really quick evolution no? This period for all this kind of events it's plausible? Specially knowing that he was medicated and only interrupted, whatever, during the Ramadan. I'm only asking because I really don't have a clue and if yes, I hadn't the idea of the condition still represent this kind of danger

My knowledge is limited but as I recall, in the 1980s the period from diagnosis to death could be six months, whereas post-1996, patients are living upwards of two decades and we haven't seen the lifespan ceiling yet because the disease is still young.

I think the whole sock puppet issue is off-putting. When I come to forums, I want to share with others our real-life experiences. I don't want to read fiction except when I am reading a novel.

 

[refujiunderground]

how come the mods won't do an ip check on bostonpirate, enchanted and andreus to see if their ips area match? something tells me that all three of them are connected. i'm beginning to think that the guy known as enchanted doesn't exist and might very well be the creation of the same guy andreus. bostonpirate as far as i'm concerned has some explaining to do. him ducking only indicates guilt.

 

[Callum]

Tossing in my (worthless) two cents...

I don't know how anyone has time, energy or just genuine effort to create a fake online identity. I understand the Internet's anonymity can allow the creative to spin a few tales but holy shit, I can't imagine spending a significant period of time pretending to be someone I'm not. A generic psychology/sociology magazine or thesis will tell you every person is a 'little different' online, which is a theory I wholeheartedly embrace, but good Lord...I was on a movie forum in high school - so about six years back - and went on not too long ago to see how things have changed and apparently someone was ratted out as living as someone completely different than who they were for a whopping nine years. Nine years of frequent logins with pictures of someone else, updates on their non-existent life. Isn't that exhausting?

Reminds me of that one guy a few years back here on JUB that was outed (haha, see what I did there) as being fake despite weaving an elaborate tale for several years. He ended up being a wrestler from Columbia, lawyer at Yale and all that jazz...still posts here under a different identity (I know what that one is, don't remember the original username, someone help me out here). Whoever he was, he was a good-looking guy but his pictures, as JUB eventually discovered, were used on Craigslist and a plethora of other sites. Then the impostor vehemently denied the accusations and tried to lie his way out of it and being silly, naive I actually believed him and we e-mailed outside of the site. Turns out he's some construction worker. Sad way to lead a social life...

I wasn't around when Andreus was so I can't comment on him.

 

[HunterM]

This thread is a MUST read for all new JUBers! It's like a new employee orientation. It has history, mystery, CSI all roll into one. It's a good way to know the cast of characters on this site.