Tell me more about Andreus

[xbuzzerx]

Yep. That's how I feel. People are assholes. We have to decide if we just don't care or if we want to avoid them at all costs. When we choose to believe, we take part in the fakery as soon as we make that decision. It is a risk we take. That is how I look at it, does not mean you have to. I'm just sharing my thoughts and asking questions.

So if I'm in an alley waiting to rape someone and a woman comes into the alley we're both to blame?

This is victim-blaming logic, just saying.

 

[sixthson]

Stacy, you did say if someone fucks you over, that is your fault. That is not your fault.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Once again we are overblowing fakery on the internet. Andreus did not rape anyone by claiming to be a Greek God living in Boston. Internet fakers are not rapists or murderers. They are people who feel the need to embellish life online so they don't have to tell you what they're really like offline. Is that rape? 'Cause I'd like to know if I can call my authorities and report some people.

I never said he was a rapist. I was entirely talking about your logic that someone actually setting out to do wrong to others is equally to blame with the person who lets the wrong be done to them.

 

[xbuzzerx]

^I don't agree with this, Buzzers. It blames the victim too much.

At any rate, I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel a keen sense of disappointment and betrayal. I still think it possible that "Andreus" may have given us fake names, but frankly I doubt it.

@Tombastep: now you can see why I don't trust the Internet.

I was referring to Stacy's position... I wasn't stating mine.

 

[G-Lexington]

I'm assuming we can toss Boston Pirate on that fire, as well.

And just so you know, I've lied about something on this messageboard. I mentioned that in the "true confessions" thread, I think. Johann asked me what that lie was, and I told him I didn't remember. Which was lie number two.

Lex

 

[Telstra]

The photographer Andréas Thanos from rareboy's link,
i looked at his photos, very unskilled photographer.

 

[refujiunderground]

Once again we are overblowing fakery on the internet. Andreus did not rape anyone by claiming to be a Greek God living in Boston. Internet fakers are not rapists or murderers. They are people who feel the need to embellish life online so they don't have to tell you what they're really like offline. Is that rape? 'Cause I'd like to know if I can call my authorities and report some people.

well, yay and nay.

it depends on how someone goes about it. someone like sloppyseconds is harmless and funny. however, if sloppyseconds decides one day to become a real person where he interacts with us, sends us messages, asking for our phone numbers and get personal with us and the person behind him is not real or someone faking for whatever reason, then it becomes something potentially serious. you never know what's the reason for someone faking or if they're a telemarketer or a crazy person that basically uses your trust only to get your phone number and identity to rob you or even kill you. don't underestimate the power of an alias or web fakers. people have died over it. not to long ago, there was a guy in brooklyn that got murdered when he was lured to someone's spot after meeting them off craigslist by "a woman" that agreed to have casual sex with him. went over to the apartment, got snatched up, robbed and killed. that could easily happen here or anywhere on the web.

 

[blackbeltninja]

If I'm honest, Stacy, your reaction seems disproportionate. I'm clearly missing something, here - are you annoyed with the persistence in dragging his name through the mud of JUB's gardens, or annoyed that your frustration and turmoil in learning to live and let live with Andreus may have been nothing more than a game he was playing?

I say that because if indeed he was a persona and it wasn't a game, then what was it? I'm open to suggestion.

This has all been enlightening either way. I certainly didn't have enough dealings with him in any of the alleged incarnations to ever think he wasn't real.

-d-

 

[bankside]

There is no doubt that Andreus was - and may be still is - a tortured person who thrives on misrepresenting himself for reasons better known to himself despite which I was much more interested in his views on Islam to worry about yet another gay man living with a challenging personality.

An authentic Greek would spell his name Andreas from Ανδρέας rather than the Latin us

The alleged brother, Mitri (an abbrevation for Dimitrios and predictably utilised for very young children) in one of his last posts, if not the last post suddenly transformed his (deliberately?) poorly written posts into the quality of written English that Andreus impressed me with when arguing on behalf of his Islamic beliefs.

Hooded Rat and I share the same view that Andreus faked his death and posted as his brother Dimitrios for reasons best known to himself perhaps illustrating that his personality is rather complicated.

I am also perplexed by the sudden appearance of the poster, posting as Enchanted attempting to elicit contributions/opinions on Andreus when recalling that he had an enormous appetite for compliments.

I am an occasional visitor to the gay bars of Gazi, Athens, Greece and have yet to note anyone resembling the image portrayed in the photographs that he posted on this site representing him.

As it happens I know an authentic Bengali who spelt her name phonetically in Canada so as to elicit the correct pronunciation.

Also, do the gay bars of Gazi have video links to the Boston area where Andreus is reputed to have danced?

 

[bankside]

Oh. And I know a child of Asian immigrants whose parents expected they were giving their son an English name similar to the Cantonese name they intended for him when in fact through their own misunderstanding it was a conventional French-Canadian name. They were baffled at the "mispronunciation" having planned in advance to prevent it.

The transliteration of personal names in an unconventional way is indicative of nothing.

 

[HunterM]

Just read through this entire thread to pass the time in a dr.'s waiting room. Wow! There is enough material on this thread to make a movie!...at least a TV movie.

 

[MidnightPrism]

This thread is thoroughly entertaining and amusing. Thanos wasn't his true last name. I was told in private that it was his middle name and his last name was something different.

Another internet lie?

 

[Kahaih]

This thread is thoroughly entertaining and amusing. Thanos wasn't his true last name. I was told in private that it was his middle name and his last name was something different.

Another internet lie?

Big deal.

Earlier, in this very thread, Boston Pirate told us that Andreus was known to lie.


And, actually, a last/other name has been posted on this site before – already public info.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Big deal.

Earlier, in this very thread, Boston Pirate told us that Andreus was known to lie.


And, actually, a last/other name has been posted on this site before – already public info.

An open tendency to lie, at least to me, doesn't lend much credibility to the idea that "he was totally real but was just lying about his name."

Really though the thing that makes me most suspicious with any big online personality is the online-death event. There's just been SO MANY cases of that being fake I'm always instantly suspicious of anyone "big" in an online community who has a death, particularly if a "relative" then shows up after.

 

[Kahaih]

. . . . .

Really though the thing that makes me most suspicious with any big online personality is the online-death event. There's just been SO MANY cases of that being fake I'm always instantly suspicious of anyone "big" in an online community who has a death, particularly if a "relative" then shows up after.

Absolutely.

I wouldn’t care too much about that either, except that, in this case, a very mean spirited cyber bully has returned from the dead with his same miserable rotten behavior.

 

[frankfrank]

For individuals who still live, several databases exist. My favorite one is Peoplefinders dot com. I'd assess it as "very accurate", but not "extremely accurate

I deem NexusLexus the single most accurate database for the living. Professional private detectives use that database first; oftentimes, they can find a missing person within 15 minutes. However, you must pay to use it,

This is a side-topic to the thread, JB, but I went to peoplefinders and I didn't see anything about paying, other than either a pay-per-use thing, or a short-term (monthly) cost which I haven't been able to justify. If there was some such people-search website which gave an annual or lifetime membership, I'd consider joining it (if it's verified to be the "real deal" and a good source). Do EITHER of these go deep enough where, if I have somebody's old college and parents' home addresses from well over 40 years ago and it's somebody with a fairly common name, am I going to be able to find that person?

There's similarly somebody with a VERY common Jewish name in New York City who I've wanted to look up for decades as well. I don't want to pay for something, then find out that having old addresses is entirely useless.

I thought his avatar body pic was his.
His avatar pic looks like a muscular big guy with a huge penis.

I only "liked to think" that the avatar was his, but I remember in my VERY early days here I complimented somebody in New Jersey on his avatar (I forget who) and he wrote back to tell me the picture wasn't him. Therefore, I only thought the avatar "might" be Andreus at the time.

Real or not the Andreus saga SHOULD have ended when he died. I get that I am participating in this thread and thus helping it live on but really, do we need to witch hunt a dead persona?

^ THIS.

I don't even remember whether "Andreus" had much influence on me at all, let alone whether it was positive or negative in nature, because my only interaction was following his story (ONE CANNOT DENY THAT IT WAS **INTERESTING**) and I THINK that I may have posted occasionally in his related thread(s). There is little doubt that some people here feel they benefited in some way from Andreus being here. Real or not, the man behind his persona (who may have been "Andreus" or just as easily could have been Pascal H. Tremblay or something...but I'm sure it was indeed a man) presented interesting and intelligent discussion, and more than likely caused more than one person to look at an issue or argument in a way that hadn't occurred to them. Even though it came from a person who appears to have been fake(d), it doesn't change the fact that somebody reacted to one or more of his posts.

HOLD ON TO THAT, AND CHERISH IT.

Sometimes, even out-and-out blatant lies can be what finally drills through somebody's wall, and makes that person have an epiphany, or see where he/she was previously making big mistakes about something, etc. This can happen directly from the fakery itself, or from the result of other people believing the fakery. It may be the response-to-a-response-to-a-response to his original post, which "gets through" that wall.

At the very least, the impostor was quite articulate AND ENGAGING; the very action of people responding to his posts often caused the responders to think through issues while posting. "Andreus" had a way of causing people to respond while (or after) crystallizing their own thoughts. That is usually not a bad thing, and whether "Andreus" was fake or not has little bearing on that.

If anything, seeing that Andreus very likely was perhaps the most elaborate sock puppet in JUB history, makes me (if anything) ALL THE MORE curious about the *real* person behind the posts. (If that person happens to be reading this, and you tell me it was you, Sloppy Seconds, I won't tell...any secret will go to the grave with me.)

MISFIT

That was the name of one of JUB's most infamous fakes.

I remember him, he lifted pictures "of him" from a European model's website or something. I actually interacted with him a little bit after he was busted. I've always hoped that my interaction with him gave at least a bit of solace to a person who obviously was plagued with a troubled soul (and even that choice of username was sort of a signal of that).

I was much more interested in his views on Islam to worry about yet another gay man living with a challenging personality.

Hooded Rat and I share the same view that Andreus faked his death and posted as his brother Dimitrios for reasons best known to himself perhaps illustrating that his personality is rather complicated.

I am an occasional visitor to the gay bars of Gazi, Athens, Greece and have yet to note anyone resembling the image portrayed in the photographs that he posted on this site representing him.

Exactly. An entirely fake person can STILL bring forth very interesting points of view, ones that can still cause somebody to look at things from other perspectives, and learn in the process.

It still makes me curious, though, about the person who was actually behind "Andreus" and fabricating the posts. Clearly that person was/is articulate and highly intelligent, as there isn't/wasn't/never will be any way to fake the depth of some of the posts; they had to come from somewhere.

It might be interesting, if old Andreus posts still exist, to see if any of the same posts exist on other website Forums - which could be ANYWHERE (even on a Forum for mountaineering, or quilting, Islam, Civil War paraphernalia, etc.)!

Of course if you're looking for the images on this thread in the gay bars in Greece, you're looking for the wrong guy - I haven't seen anything posted in this thread (I don't think) which has actually been "confirmed" to have been any photo that Andreus had (earlier) "confirmed" was him. That goregous black-and-white hunk picture was already disclosed as being a British footballer or something, not Andreus.

 

[Kyanimal]

The only pics of Andreus that I've seen in This thread are his Avatar body, and Signature eyes. And, they're entirely consistent with other pics he publicly posted on JUB, and others that he emailed to me. All of them were of the same guy.

Corny, I'm not sure I'm following what you were saying about Dreu being a photographer. All I remember is him claiming to sometimes be a free-lance correspondent. And, he obviously wasn't the photographer Andreas Thanos. That guy is too old.

I never knew what his last name supposedly was. The first I heard of Thanos was from BostonPirate. MidnightPrism has offered an explanation of why BP may have honestly thought that was Dreu's last name. He seemed to be quite cautious of being identified with his dad, and the family business. And, given his many nefarious activities, who could blame him?

After all of the suppositions, assumptions, inferences, musings, and "claims", I STILL don't KNOW if Dreu was "Real" or not!

Butt, does that Really matter?

All I KNOW is that Andreus was a Character, in SO many ways, that was as Real to ME, as the internet gets, when I was interacting with Him. And, I do still Treasure that experience with whoever He may have been!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[mikey3000]

I've come to two conclusions..

One very suspect person has left the building and another refuses to stop stirring the pot.

Very interesting indeed.

 

[Kahaih]

. . . .
After all of the suppositions, assumptions, inferences, musings, and "claims", I STILL don't KNOW if Dreu was "Real" or not!

Butt, does that Really matter?

. . . .

At the very least, it is odd that this site is willing to maintain online cemetery plots with no bodies/no proof that a real person actually died, yet omits the very real and well-documented Tyler Clementi.

It’s disgraceful, actually. Might as well have a plot in there for Dobby.

 

[bankside]

This thread is thoroughly entertaining and amusing. Thanos wasn't his true last name. I was told in private that it was his middle name and his last name was something different.

Another internet lie?

pfff.…if your last name is really even "prism." FAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!