Tell me more about Andreus

[ixthrock]

It will change your life, we dare not spoil it for you.

God, I hate change and I'm not even a republican.

 

[Ram]

"Tell me more about Hard-up1 making a mistake" thread?

I want to see that thread. I will pick him apart.

I'm always suspicious of you whenever LilBit isn't posting.

Lilbit is not my other account. I can never fake that amount of ugly in a person.

 

[xbuzzerx]

I want to see that thread. I will pick him apart.



Lilbit is not my other account. I can never fake that amount of ugly in a person.

Or fake that many STD's?

::Lumps wood on the fire::

 

[Ram]

So, Ram has a sock puppet named motherfather?

Yup. Last post before today was like a gazillion years ago.

 

[xbuzzerx]

I think I may remember that. It was Jasun's first departure/return thread.

Tell me more about this Jasun creature. I know it only by reputation.

 

[bradlee119]

Oh jeez.The Jasun.

Ram I never once thought you were fake,and I know Hardup1 isn't.

 

[ixthrock]

I remember Jasun. I think he was a homo.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Buzzer, you'll have to grow a pair!

A pair of what? :O

 

[rareboy]

There really is no reason to keep commenting on it.After nearly 30,000 posts here,I never misled anyone.
I am the "real" Bradlee and you have been here long enough to know I have been brutally honest with who I was here.Mostly the reason I don't visit JUB much anymore is I was dumbfounded as to how much of JUB is really just a fantasy and purely false after I was so honest with who I was.
Yes I did meet tons of people from this site,some of who are in my life today almost daily.The people I met from here face to face will always mean something to me,and no one can ever repeat the St Louis meetup,many have tried,but it just cant be done.JUB is never going to be what it was for alot of us.The first 1,000 people here saw it from infancy,and it is now a grown adult that has to be let go.
So choose what you want to believe,and trust me I know the difference.20 posts in a year ought to tell you how much I really care about JUB itself.

Well. This isn't about you being a fake.

The questions related to your emphatic declaration that you knew Andreus was a fake. And that at least some of the mods were sure of it too.

But you never have offered the reason why you know he was a fake.

 

[JayHawk]

I think you probably mean me.

I can see why you'd think that, honestly. But my investigations began with a hint from another JUBber, really. He said something like,"Now we have his real name, why can't somebody look into it?" And of course, like a rabbit seeing a carrot dangling off a stick, off I went, chasing it.

The trouble with the whole Andreus saga lies in the fact that he deceived us all for his own selfish needs, Jay Hawk. I have a great deal of trouble dealing with lies and deception. Why does someone need to lie about their identity, when the truth is usually more interesting, anyway?

Perhaps you were included but I didn't come in here to swing cats. I think plenty of folks are way too involved in sussing out a members identity when they decide they should do that. I am privy to a few examples on JUB and in other venues where real life knowledge leads to criminal activity. To me that is the greatest danger in witty JUBbers sussing out one another.

I still don't get the idea that I was harmed by Andreus. But I don't take things too terribly personally on here. I get angry occasionally at shitty allegations of character but rarely does that carry into my physical life. It just plays into the argument or discussion on here. I interacted with a entity that claimed certain things. I didn't alter my perception of him because he was Muslim or struggling with HIV. I simply engaged whatever the topic was and moved on. Probably the biggest concept that makes sense to me is Bradlee's reasoning. Bradlee says it was horrible to find out so many were fake because he was so open and under the impression everyone else was as well. I can understand that feeling of betrayal. It also firmly plants my method of interaction on JUB.

People are not real to me till they are real to me. They aren't on any other forum and they aren't here. That doesn't mean I disrespect them but I refuse to allow an online opinion affect my life. To allow an emotional involvement. You know the other side of this coin is that some of the more interesting people I have in my life have come from JUB. And they are very demonstrably real. Hell i wanted to organize a CEP type meetup here in KC simply because I know it would elevate the conversation if each of us saw and KNEW human beings typing the words we read. It is simply different after you know someone is real and not just from the ether.

Anyways Rant over.... Cheers!!

 

[bradlee119]

But you never have offered the reason why you know he was a fake.

I already answered that,If you just read my previous posts you would get it. 'Nuff said.

 

[sixthson]

If fellow JUBbers have no value unless you have met in person, why bother taking anyone seriously who seeks advice on coming to terms with who they are as gay men or why bother talking someone out of suicidal thoughts or why bother reaching out to someone struggling with loneliness and despair? Why not just treat everyone like they are here to personally amuse you?

JUB becomes more superficial with every passing day.

 

[sixthson]

I already answered that,If you just read my previous posts you would get it. 'Nuff said.

If you did, I missed it, too. Rareboy is asking what proof you have that Andreus was a fake. No one questioned your authenticity.

 

[bradlee119]

Hogwash,there are plenty of people(including the former owners of the site) that know I am only Bradlee,and that Andreus was TOTALLY made up.

What a fun trip that was

 

[HoodedRat]

JUB becomes more superficial with every passing day.

Sadly, this is true.

 

[Callum]

Some of ya'll are investing an unhealthy interest in Internet relationships/reality.

 

[rareboy]

Perhaps you were included but I didn't come in here to swing cats. I think plenty of folks are way too involved in sussing out a members identity when they decide they should do that. I am privy to a few examples on JUB and in other venues where real life knowledge leads to criminal activity. To me that is the greatest danger in witty JUBbers sussing out one another.

I still don't get the idea that I was harmed by Andreus. But I don't take things too terribly personally on here. I get angry occasionally at shitty allegations of character but rarely does that carry into my physical life. It just plays into the argument or discussion on here. I interacted with a entity that claimed certain things. I didn't alter my perception of him because he was Muslim or struggling with HIV. I simply engaged whatever the topic was and moved on. Probably the biggest concept that makes sense to me is Bradlee's reasoning. Bradlee says it was horrible to find out so many were fake because he was so open and under the impression everyone else was as well. I can understand that feeling of betrayal. It also firmly plants my method of interaction on JUB.

People are not real to me till they are real to me. They aren't on any other forum and they aren't here. That doesn't mean I disrespect them but I refuse to allow an online opinion affect my life. To allow an emotional involvement. You know the other side of this coin is that some of the more interesting people I have in my life have come from JUB. And they are very demonstrably real. Hell i wanted to organize a CEP type meetup here in KC simply because I know it would elevate the conversation if each of us saw and KNEW human beings typing the words we read. It is simply different after you know someone is real and not just from the ether.

Anyways Rant over.... Cheers!!

I admire your optimism. lol

 

[Telstra]

I was at the meet in St. Louis too. Doesn't make me, or the people I met, any less capable of being fake here. I met many people at the restaurant gathering who may be real people with real lives but their JUB personas were not who they really are. Same goes for the meet I put together in Los Angeles (Orange County) for Disney Gay Days. The people who gathered together are very real. Doesn't make them any more real HERE and doesn't make me any more capable of proving that.

So all that stuff about meeting real people and you being real does not prove whether or not Andreus was real or fake.

You are not more important than anyone else because you went to St. Louis and met everyone and you are not more important because you've been on JUB since it was LMAO.

You have not answered the question of how you know Andreus was fake. You have only spewed nonsense about how real you are and how no one can compare to the people at the St. Louis meet or the people who began at LMAO. Both of which have nothing to do with your statement about Andreus. Nobody asked you if you were fake and nobody asked you to pass judgment on JUB present vs. JUB past.

The simple question was, how do you know?

Is that mean
bradlee119 = Andreus ??

mmm seems like the drama continues ...

 

[Sausy]

Oh god Telstra, no!!!!!!!!!!!!! The elevator doesn't ever get to the top floor in you, does it?

 

[Telstra]

Oh god Telstra, no!!!!!!!!!!!!! The elevator doesn't ever get to the top floor in you, does it?

What do you mean? i'm not smart so you have to explain.
Anyway, Stacy is not satisfied, quote "The simple question was, how do you know? "