The cult of philogyny

[eastofeden]

Check your post 15; and I ask you the same question you asked me- Have you spoken to every woman?

I had a thread asking what is it like to pop a girl's cherry -- got a spate of misogynistic comments.

This thread has provoked a lot of feigned chivalry, but this pretense is not going to turn anyone straight. The site is ''Just Us BOYS,'' the very thing that attracted us to it.

No..not spoken to every woman..but I did say MOST ...and it is obvious why MOST women would not want you speaking for them as it is obvious that most people with a soul wouldn't want David Duke speaking for them...and the reason I didn't say ALL is because there are alot of biblical based self hating women ....and the departed Phyllis Schlafly.... that would probably love you speaking for them.

As for the "feigned chivalry"...odd that you would characterize the responses here as such but thanks for the insight into who you are. FYI...no feigned chivalry here....misogyny makes me want to PUKE...so does racism and homophobia.

Finally...I joined all of the gay sites...because they were gay sites....just us BOYS was just another clever name....

 

[luckynumbah7]

I quit trying. Because there are a shitload of days that my brain refuses to process things.

That's fine, my processing is constantly scrambled in some form or another. Half the time I don't bother with the effort because it's considerably more effort than many others have to put in. Spoken-word positioning in particular (as it's considerably different from written language) has it's difficulties for me, despite the great breadth I've managed to memorize. It's not having processing issues that I've a problem with.

I figured the OP did read it and did understand it, what with his grasp of language particulars; and had found that Sloppy did a short sentence-version of "why people/1st worlders so dim, they mock stereotype vid by promoting same stereotype in comments about vid!". Figured the 'he's must be insane' commentary was an easy way to brush off a posts' observation. Considering what the observation was, I took afront.

 

[purina]

Yep.

And she always had a specific gay porn star as her avatar and siggie, just don't remember who the star was.

I remember it being Eduardo.

http://www.smutjunkies.com/updates/eduardo-blond-hunk-cuban-gay-porn-star/

 

[sixthson]

Didn't say women should be excluded. I was wondering what would attract them.

I won't speak for redfox, but it has always been my impression that she likes men and that includes gay men. She has always been very supportive of us and we can do with all of that we can get, right? Some women have been driven away but gay men here hating on them. This topic has actually come up many times in the past.
Most of us are cool with having the ladies here and love them. I know I am. But you are right about women-hating posts you get anytime something is posted about females. Some gay men seem to feel obligated to hate women just because they are attracted to men. It stinks just as much as homophobia does.

As for girls stealing boys from you, then wouldn't you say they were never yours to start with? Maybe they were just using you to get off until what they really wanted came along. Maybe some of them were too big of cowards to own their true sexuality, too.
Either way, they are the kind of guys you wouldn't want in your life anyway.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I remember it being Eduardo.

http://www.smutjunkies.com/updates/eduardo-blond-hunk-cuban-gay-porn-star/

Yes it was.

 

[heir-to-the-wind]

No..not spoken to every woman..but I did say MOST ...and it is obvious why MOST women would not want you speaking for them as it is obvious that most people with a soul wouldn't want David Duke speaking for them...and the reason I didn't say ALL is because there are alot of biblical based self hating women ....and the departed Phyllis Schlafly.... that would probably love you speaking for them.

As for the "feigned chivalry"...odd that you would characterize the responses here as such but thanks for the insight into who you are. FYI...no feigned chivalry here....misogyny makes me want to PUKE...so does racism and homophobia.

Finally...I joined all of the gay sites...because they were gay sites....just us BOYS was just another clever name....

My apology if my original post, which simply expressed a feeling which I acknowledged is irrational, upset your hormone balance. I did not intend to evoke such a thespian reaction. Take a Xanax, listen to some classic Streisand, and chill out.

 

[heir-to-the-wind]

I won't speak for redfox, but it has always been my impression that she likes men and that includes gay men. She has always been very supportive of us and we can do with all of that we can get, right? Some women have been driven away but gay men here hating on them. This topic has actually come up many times in the past.
Most of us are cool with having the ladies here and love them. I know I am. But you are right about women-hating posts you get anytime something is posted about females. Some gay men seem to feel obligated to hate women just because they are attracted to men. It stinks just as much as homophobia does.

As for girls stealing boys from you, then wouldn't you say they were never yours to start with? Maybe they were just using you to get off until what they really wanted came along. Maybe some of them were too big of cowards to own their true sexuality, too.
Either way, they are the kind of guys you wouldn't want in your life anyway.

Thanks for the more rational response. As I said in the OP, philogyny seems to be a cultural phenomenon forced on us. In our earliest literature, the Trojan War began to recapture a woman. The theme of philopgyny in literature or western civilization might make a good doctoral dissertation.

 

[heir-to-the-wind]

Good god, it's just basic phonetic English pidgin with heavy use of English current Cultural signifiers/signified a la Saussure. If my broken English ass can figure it out, so can you. There's a difference between someone going "I'm not gonna bother with the effort" and pretending none of it makes sense even with a bit of trying.

And your opinion of women is all on you. Perhaps it would help you if you didn't imagine all the replies you get coming from an erect, bespectacled penis huntin'-n-peckin' at the keyboard. A suspiciously underage one, going by the thread progression of a goodly chunk of your topics. At best it's bloody disturbing, you need to work on that.

Is there a psychiatrist in the house??

 

[luckynumbah7]

Is there a psychiatrist in the house??

You might as well be looking at them if the topic is adults preying on youth.

I think you're trying to talk yourself into the behavior being ethically neutral so long as the kid doesn't seem
concerned and to do that you willfully 'forget' the answers every time someone explains to you yet again why fucking young people is not a good idea. Not a good idea for a whole host of reasons. The first being how consent is formed and then given. Actual consent takes both knowledge of others and a generalized equal footing, neither of which kids have with people who aren't their peers. And no, the possible anomalous exception to the rule doesn't mean you can ditch the rule.

That or you've already talked yourself into the belief and you're just oozing your way across the internet to find and encourage the like-minded while getting your jollies off of others' underage experiences. I'm beginning to think it's the latter, as when 'first experiences' come up you nudge it in the direction of older vs unlikely to be either legal and/or able to give informed consent. Always. You've yet to not pivot in that direction.

Your short statements often don't seem to mimic your written beliefs. Those statements are given in distancing language, and only distancing language. Which tells me you don't actually believe them.

"One should always be polite even to people disliked. "

That's a recent example. You're about as far away from polite about women here as it's possible to get. Now, distancing language can be used for several reasons. But when the statement "One should always be polite even to people disliked. " clearly contradicts everything else you type in a thread, 'one has to wonder'. You do multiple distancing methods when phrasing sentences discussing the underaged and sex.

On the hair-thin chance you aren't aware of what you've been writing, would you like a list of threads listing the disturbances, quotations listing the many and varied issues with language where you seem to be promoting underage sexual assault (ie, rape) and how you're fucking up royally? You have quite a few, and they're also quite blatant. Tho you'll have to wait till I get back from the grocers if you decide on a yes.

 

[zoltanspawn]

...my original post, which simply expressed a feeling which I acknowledged is irrational,...

How do you normally deal with irrational feelings?

I think most of us have them, and the healthy thing to do is to examine them for their worth.

So, in that spirit, let me ask: what do you gain from these irrational feelings about women?

 

[kallipolis]

How do you normally deal with irrational feelings?

I think most of us have them, and the healthy thing to do is to examine them for their worth.

So, in that spirit, let me ask: what do you gain from these irrational feelings about women?

I'm waiting with bated breath.....I'm certain a psychiatrist, or even two would appreciate knowing.

 

[heir-to-the-wind]

How do you normally deal with irrational feelings?

I think most of us have them, and the healthy thing to do is to examine them for their worth.

So, in that spirit, let me ask: what do you gain from these irrational feelings about women?

Of course, I gain absolutely nothing from an irrational feeling. Do other guys have the same irrational feeling? I suspect that many, not all, do. JUB seemed like a safe place to start a dialogue. Some of the irrational hostility I seemed to have provoked among some drama queens, however, will make any rational discussion unlikely. But thanks for your concern. I don't wish to disturb the hen house any longer with a surprisingly sensitive topic that produces so much clucking.

 

[Alistair]

Is there a psychiatrist in the house??

You might as well be looking at them if the topic is adults preying on youth.

I think you're trying to talk yourself into the behavior being ethically neutral so long as the kid doesn't seem
concerned and to do that you willfully 'forget' the answers every time someone explains to you yet again why fucking young people is not a good idea. Not a good idea for a whole host of reasons. The first being how consent is formed and then given. Actual consent takes both knowledge of others and a generalized equal footing, neither of which kids have with people who aren't their peers. And no, the possible anomalous exception to the rule doesn't mean you can ditch the rule.

That or you've already talked yourself into the belief and you're just oozing your way across the internet to find and encourage the like-minded while getting your jollies off of others' underage experiences. I'm beginning to think it's the latter, as when 'first experiences' come up you nudge it in the direction of older vs unlikely to be either legal and/or able to give informed consent. Always. You've yet to not pivot in that direction.

Your short statements often don't seem to mimic your written beliefs. Those statements are given in distancing language, and only distancing language. Which tells me you don't actually believe them.

"One should always be polite even to people disliked. "

That's a recent example. You're about as far away from polite about women here as it's possible to get. Now, distancing language can be used for several reasons. But when the statement "One should always be polite even to people disliked. " clearly contradicts everything else you type in a thread, 'one has to wonder'. You do multiple distancing methods when phrasing sentences discussing the underaged and sex.

On the hair-thin chance you aren't aware of what you've been writing, would you like a list of threads listing the disturbances, quotations listing the many and varied issues with language where you seem to be promoting underage sexual assault (ie, rape) and how you're fucking up royally? You have quite a few, and they're also quite blatant. Tho you'll have to wait till I get back from the grocers if you decide on a yes.

I'll be a little more straightforward and tell you heir-to-the-wind that a lot of us think you're a pedophile. You're not going to get a lot of love here. We're gay men who like men and love our mommas. We're not pedophiles.

 

[heir-to-the-wind]

What the hell does this thread have to do with pedophilia or loving your mother?

 

[rareboy]

I love women.

But I have only ever really bonded with strong, determined women who were equal partners to the men and able to stand on their own.

I never resented one because she was with a guy except for the girl who snatched (see what I did there) my grade 8 schoolchum Gordon away from me the moment we got into high school. After me teaching him a lot of cool stuff about sex...he decided that he wanted pussy. Harumph.

 

[heir-to-the-wind]

I love women.

But I have only ever really bonded with strong, determined women who were equal partners to the men and able to stand on their own.

I never resented one because she was with a guy except for the girl who snatched (see what I did there) my grade 8 schoolchum Gordon away from me the moment we got into high school. After me teaching him a lot of cool stuff about sex...he decided that he wanted pussy. Harumph.

Jesus H. Christ -- a sensible coherent response on topic. Thanks. [Hope you don't get accused of being a pedophile.]

 

[zoltanspawn]

Of course, I gain absolutely nothing from an irrational feeling. Do other guys have the same irrational feeling? I suspect that many, not all, do. JUB seemed like a safe place to start a dialogue. Some of the irrational hostility I seemed to have provoked among some drama queens, however, will make any rational discussion unlikely. But thanks for your concern. I don't wish to disturb the hen house any longer with a surprisingly sensitive topic that produces so much clucking.

If you gain nothing from them, then you don't need 'a safe place to start a dialogue' about them.

You need to simply repudiate them as the worthless things they are.

 

[kallipolis]

Of course, I gain absolutely nothing from an irrational feeling. Do other guys have the same irrational feeling? I suspect that many, not all, do. JUB seemed like a safe place to start a dialogue. Some of the irrational hostility I seemed to have provoked among some drama queens, however, will make any rational discussion unlikely. But thanks for your concern. I don't wish to disturb the hen house any longer with a surprisingly sensitive topic that produces so much clucking.

Irrational feelings are an occasional annoyance for most of us.

Then we get over it when understanding the consequences that could arise.

Mother, and son relationships may well be a factor here that needs expanding.

I am privileged to have a mother who has nurtured me well into middle age, for which I am grateful.

 

[Alistair]

What the hell does this thread have to do with pedophilia or loving your mother?

The site is ''Just Us BOYS,'' the very thing that attracted us to it.

This for starts. I can start pulling up a bunch of other quotes from different threads if you'd like.

And I'll just let you reread this thread about your mother hating.

 

[sixthson]

It must be about time for another cut vs uncut thread of a race thread, isn't it? They all end the same way....

This is for those who want to blame Mamma and Daddy for everything:

You've got to taught
to hate and fear,
you've got to be taught
from year to year,
it's got to be drummed
in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

Most people just learn to hate and fear all on their own, however.