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The Death List 2025

Dargelos said:
When Sam and Dave split up, Dave recruited a different singer also named Sam (Daniels), who died in '88, that could be what you had in mind.
Sam Moore was the original and totally the very greatest.
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That probably was it. I think I might have been thinking of Sam Cooke though.
 
Oliviero Toscani, photographer, aged 82.

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Oliviero Toscani, Benetton's shock photographer, dies aged 82

Toscani was the creative force behind shock ad campaigns of the 1990s including a priest and nun kissing.
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Oliviero Toscani - Wikipedia

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David Lynch ​

Visionary Director of ‘Twin Peaks’ and ‘Blue Velvet​

passed away at 78​
 
smokeshadow said:
Claude Jarman, Jr., the young actor who out performed a deer in the 1940's movie The Yearling has passed away at age 90

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What an excellent article about Jarman and his life. What a hard road for child actors it is. They frequently cannot survive the professional transition to adult actor as their appeal either fades as they mature, or worse yet, the audience resents them for the loss of innocence. In some, it can result in them taking some extreme roles to try to shake the juvenile image audiences have of them, resulting in even contempt from the viewers. Daniel Radcliffe comes to mind, among others.

My favorite bits from the MSN article:

[Referring to the filming of "The Yearling"]
“It was a two-year project, and probably the most difficult experience of my life,” Mr. Jarman told the San Francisco Examiner in 1984.
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[Reflecting on the bad reviews for "The Sun Comes Up"]
“Time magazine said even Lassie was bad,” Mr. Jarman recalled.
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:rotflmao:

[On his career change from acting]
By then, Mr. Jarman was beginning to doubt whether he wanted to continue as an actor. He had started having misgivings while promoting “The Yearling,” when he was assigned to walk down Fifth Avenue in Manhattan with a deer on a leash. “I remember thinking to myself, ‘I don’t want to do this. This is not me,’” he told the Examiner.
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How sad that the promotional group had him do such an unnatural thing. His instincts were right. Telling, when a boy is wiser than the men.

Occasionally, he was invited back to the Academy Awards for commemorative events. Mr. Jarman recalled that he was able to reconnect with his former co-star Peck backstage in 2003, when they were both reminded of their long-ago days in Florida, filming “The Yearling.” “Honey,” Peck told his wife, introducing her to Mr. Jarman, “I want you to meet my son.”
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Classic Gregory Peck dryness, and charm. He had a distinctively masculine aura, including his humor.

[And this poignant anecdote]
“Up until eight or 10 years ago, he could recite his lines” from “The Yearling,” his wife said in a phone interview, recalling how Mr. Jarman still had a fondness for the film despite its difficult production. “He always said to me, ‘I became that boy. I became Jody. I was not even acting anymore.’”
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I think the audience can recognize the roles in which that happens with actors, although it is by no means the only time they are great.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
What an excellent article about Jarman and his life. What a hard road for child actors it is. They frequently cannot survive the professional transition to adult actor as their appeal either fades as they mature, or worse yet, the audience resents them for the loss of innocence. In some, it can result in them taking some extreme roles to try to shake the juvenile image audiences have of them, resulting in even contempt from the viewers. Daniel Radcliffe comes to mind, among others.

My favorite bits from the MSN article:

[Referring to the filming of "The Yearling"]


[Reflecting on the bad reviews for "The Sun Comes Up"]

:rotflmao:

[On his career change from acting]

How sad that the promotional group had him do such an unnatural thing. His instincts were right. Telling, when a boy is wiser than the men.


Classic Gregory Peck dryness, and charm. He had a distinctively masculine aura, including his humor.

[And this poignant anecdote]

I think the audience can recognize the roles in which that happens with actors, although it is by no means the only time they are great.
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It's also shame that JUB didn't allow the classic still from the movie of Claude and the deer, simply because Claude was underage. That image has been around for decades #-o Oh, I do understand having to draw a line somewhere; but, there should be some wiggle room around that line for exceptional exceptions.
 
smokeshadow said:
It's also shame that JUB didn't allow the classic still from the movie of Claude and the deer, simply because Claude was underage.
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The guidance that we were given by JUB's former attorney was an absolute rule. There's also a group of vigilante evangelical women sitting at home, presumably barefoot and pregnant, and they love to report anything connected to underage content to credit card companies, and in some cases, to law enforcement. So, we are being very careful. It's likely to get worse in the next 4 years.
 
smokeshadow said:
It's also shame that JUB didn't allow the classic still from the movie of Claude and the deer, simply because Claude was underage. That image has been around for decades #-o Oh, I do understand having to draw a line somewhere; but, there should be some wiggle room around that line for exceptional exceptions.
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Having innocently posted images of younger actors and kids in background scenes many times over the years....I understand how easy it is to slip up or to think that celebrity at under 18 somehow makes them public figures...and then I look at tsome of the images I have posted in other forums here or what other people have posted and I totally get the complete ban.

I remember posting the video of 'Tomorrow Belongs to Me' from Cabaret about a decade ago and literally never thinking about it until it got converted to a link.

There are way too many people out there in Amerikastan ready to accuse us all of being child molesters and paedophiles.

But anyone interested in The Yearling will know how to find it on Google, I assume.
 
KaraBulut said:
The guidance that we were given by JUB's former attorney was an absolute rule. There's also a group of vigilante evangelical women sitting at home, presumably barefoot and pregnant, and they love to report anything connected to underage content to credit card companies, and in some cases, to law enforcement. So, we are being very careful. It's likely to get worse in the next 4 years.
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Like I stated, I do understand; and, I think that the isssue has gotten so far off into the weeds that anyone can report an "underage" image simply because it shows up on a porn site; even if it has nothing to do with nudity, sexuality or porn ](*,)
 
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