The Just Venting, Airing Out, Talking Shit, Personal Beefs, Problems, Anger Management, and etc Thread for 2015

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Obama Marks 150th Anniversary of End of Slavery- Full Speech (YouTube video; December 9, 2015; 17 min)

 

[refujiunderground]

Do you hate white people? From everything I've read you do. I understand why some people would call you racist. From everything I've read you write about gays, I'd think you hate them too. If it wasn't a gay website people would call you homophobic.

I think you need to take a look at yourself first. If you approach people in the real world like you do here, with a chip on your shoulder, that's going to dictate how most people react to you.

fake outrage from someone that doesn't have a clue what racism or prejudice is. trust me breh. i don't care about you enough to hate you and i certainly am not dumb enough to hate someone because of their skin color. i do dislike ignorant people and bigots. unfortunately, you have a lot of ignorant people that don't think they're ignorant and try to be all slick. when you call them out, they get upset like... "who me?"

the only reason how i could see you or any of these guys getting offended is if you do exactly the things that i'm saying. that's it. if not, you really shouldn't be feeling a certain way. that's not my problem if you feel guilty about something. shouldn't be saying any racist comments or feeling negatively about black people to begin with.

 

[refujiunderground]

I'm not sure I'd find it derogatory as much as skewed, and seemingly ironic when posted in response to an Indonesian American who was posting about giving the cold shoulder to a Pakistani American co-worker.



Maybe that's due to current violence and the myriad attacks launched by violent extremists in Islam. Crusades, not so much.

i wasn't focused on that indonesian whatever you're talking about.

sorry but i don't understand the hate towards muslims or islam simply because there's some crazy people out there that are doing stupid shit and claiming the islam made them do it. you're exposing your ignorance if you really think that islam or being muslim has anything to do with making people crazy. they were crazy to begin with. i think it's amazing to see how folks are basically finding excuses to show their true colors that they have hiding underneath and joke about to their friends then wanna act like they're oh so slick and smart or aren't ignorant as fuck. crusades is the same fucking thing. you had some crazy motherfuckers that basically was using religion as an excuse to run wild and do bad. point of the matter is that they're some fucked up people in the world. they hide behind religions and other shit as an excuse for their sociopathic behaviors when it's really them. they know what's right from wrong but choose to do wrong anyway. those are the people who i'm scared of. if you know better and choose to be fucked up, then you're a scary person.

You need to get out more. Seriously. Try watching BBC America or HK News. It's easy to become Amerocentric in how you see the world. As discouraging as it may seem, the white race hardly has a lock on oppression. Africa, Arabia, Alaska, North America, Central America, South America, Eurasia, and East Asia have all been replete with their own massacres and empires. Boko Haram is but one glaring example. Dozens if not hundreds exist. Whereas your recent ancestry has a bone to pick with whites, that doesn't turn the world into a black and white photo album.

you keep saying this and that but it doesn't change a thing. you can try to rewrite history in whatever context you want. i'm talking about a specific thing here and you're trying to find whatever excuse to dodge it.

Be honest. You've never seen a Thanksgiving celebration where the observation mentioned vanquishing the Natives. And, conquered or not, the last time I looked, the Natives are not gone. They own every casino that Donald Trump doesn't. Tribes get conquered all the time. They always have. Ask the Irish about it. Guess what? They're white, or white with ginger toppings. Ask the people in Rwanda. Ask the Basques. Ask the Aboriginals. Ask the Tibetans. Ask anyone.

yep, more bullshit. you just sound like you're in denial. the funny thing is why are YOU acting like i'm talking about YOU specifically. sorry, breh but the native americans pretty much have been wiped out. i bet you're scared to read a damn american history book. you failed to mention about how the remaining native americans have been forced onto reservations by the same government that killed a majority of them off. you also failed to mention that the same government provided them food that is also responsible for a long list of health problems as native americans have the highest rates of hypertension, heart disease, obesity and etc to name a few. don't forget the highest rates of infant mortality, suicide and something that you should be well aware of alcoholism. you mentioning casinos is irrelevant and is just a lame excuse to take away from what's going on. i don't understand this denialism that you're doing.

And if they do say that, what of it? Is a huge population ever going to eat crow down to a man? Hardly. It's racial, it's political, it's generational. Maybe the expectation that white will monolithically say "I'm sorry" is an idealistic view.

generational my ass. sorry but racism is STILL alive and today. you know why because the very system that we are living in pretty much is structured to be that way. it also doesn't help that our society teaches this shit early. hence, the doll experiment where the black kids don't want to play with the black dolls because due to the media that they are shown, they are taught to think that white is right and black is wrong. it's also the same reason why you have folks with "preferences" where they are basically socially programmed to think that eurocentric features or white people are attractive and nonwhites are NOT. this is what's exactly going on right now within the gay community that we are in and the straight world as well. in fact the world. that is FORCED onto us. if you are not aware of it, you'll think that that's the way things are and unfortunately, our educational system doesn't TEACH people about that, racism, social programming and other things that people NEED to know. you wanna talk about generational huh? you damn well know what i'm talking about. let's not play stupid. look at our very own LGBT community and tell me that it doesn't reflect our fucked up society. let's be real here. shit is so bad that most people in america see homosexuality as being synonymous with white. we can also talk about how gay rights organizations, gay media, gay porn and damn near anything gay related seems to over represent whites and exclude nonwhites as if they don't exist. sorry, whatever you're trying to tell me is just denialism and it's NOT going to go away unless the majority or the people that are doing it STOP with it. stop acting like it's black people, nonwhites or the minority's responsibility to make the majority stop with the bullshit. i keep hearing this whole entire bullshit about "black people need to do this, that, that, and that" when in reality, the system PREVENTS black people from basically being able to thrive as a collective. folks use stupid examples about jay-z being rich and are like... "see, racism is dead". it's NOT.

jay-z is still a black man living in america. he faces the same shit like any other black person does whether rich, poor, young, old and etc. it's REAL for us. you may not SEE it that way or empathize. this is why people talk about "white privilege" because you certainly have NO clue of what it's like to basically being judged negatively for your skin color or receiving unfavorable treatment for that shit to the point where it affects your life from how you are educated to where you live to how you get a job. trust me, i've BEEN there. from the k-8th grade school that i enrolled in from to the high school that i graduated from. my education was indeed determined by my skin color. the k-8 school that i went to got shut down by the school district and the high school that i went to has a pending ACLU lawsuit because the school segregated the white and black students through a level system putting the black kids in the lower educational levels and the whites in the higher educational levels.

as for the rest of what you're saying. you are EXACTLY the type of person that influenced what i write. you DON'T get it. why don't you try to read some books about systematic racism and american history before you try to talk to me about something you obviously have NO clue about? your cluelessness shows talking about you can escape racism if you go to school and do your homework. your cluelessness is embarrassing and all you did was just prove my exact point.

 

[mikemizanin729]

and i certainly am not dumb enough to hate someone because of their skin color.

Yet it was YOU who said that you fear white people.

shouldn't be saying any racist comments or feeling negatively about black people to begin with.

Yet you came on here doing exactly that about white people and you manage to slag off most gay men too. Also Alister has never said anything racist on this board that I've ever seen and if anything you come on here playing victim and managing to Insult other posters here all at the same time ones that you don't even have issues with get burned by your posts, yet you expect anyone to actually take you seriously...??? Calling people racist and gay men shallow just because they happen to be muscular yet you don't know them personally to know how their personality really is only a selfie you saw of them on some Realjock website.

Yeah, right.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Or, you could just give up trying and play the victim card and absolve yourself of any responsibility for being wherever you happen to be.

 

[refujiunderground]

Yet it was YOU who said that you fear white people.



Yet you came on here doing exactly that about white people and you manage to slag off most gay men too. Also Alister has never said anything racist on this board that I've ever seen and if anything you come on here playing victim and managing to Insult other posters here all at the same time ones that you don't even have issues with get burned by your posts yet you expect anyone to actually take you seriously...??? Calling people racist and gay men shallow just because they happen to be muscuar yet you don't know them personally only a selfie you saw off them on some realjock website.

Yeah, right.

yes, i did. of course, i didn't mean ALL white people when i said that. the reason why i said i FEAR white people is because unfortunately, there are many white people that have the same mentality that mr. nothardup1 has and sad enough, they may NOT realize that shit until they are forced into a discussion about it. this society teaches people to be RACIST. that's a fact.

that mentality that he has, the denialism, ignorance and etc is dangerous. you know why it is dangerous because it's pretty much ignoring the problem and at the same time, it's feeding into it. what he said about native americans is downright disturbing. he clearly is NOT aware of the plight that native americans are dealing with. to say that a couple of native american tribes own a casino so that discounts the fact that they are a disadvantaged group facing a lot of shit from discrimination shows how badly educated he is on the subject.

this is why education is important. it's never too late to educate yourself on "race", "race theory", discrimination and shit. there is NO such thing as "race" to begin with. the only race is the human race but of course, the ignorant will believe that there is a white race, a black race and etc.

you're just talking simply just to talk. obviously because you are also clueless to what i'm talking about. instead of getting all upset and etc, try to at least comprehend what the fuck i'm saying before even trying to put out an opinion. the only thing you're doing is just making yourself look as if you're basically the type of person that i'm talking about like mr. nothard1up is.

 

[refujiunderground]

Or, you could just give up trying and play the victim card and absolve yourself of any responsibility for being wherever you happen to be.

what victim card? are you going to call me a social justice warrior too for actually giving a fuck?

i guess when gay people talk about dealing with homophobia in society and women talk about sexism, they're playing the "victim card" too.

look, if you don't feel comfortable about talking about "race" because you feel guilty about being prejudiced, then that's not my problem. that's yours. you should work on it and ask yourself why you feel uncomfortable talking about that subject where you are literally dodging actual facts, trying to treat things like they aren't happening. they are and will not stop unless more people such as yourself are aware and make yourself educated on it so you know.

trust me, i have a job, i have a car, i have no problem paying my bills. i hope within the next year or so to finally move out my parent's house and have an apartment of my own. i'm not unemployed anymore. the reason why i care is because i have empathy and think that it's fucked up that any group has to deal with that type of bullshit and other folks that aren't in that group going like "that's that groups problem" and even perpetuating it.

here is an example of it. this is coming from a supreme court justice.

http://news.yahoo.com/furor-top-us-court-hears-blacks-better-slower-213819955.html

should i not be afraid that this man actually has MY rights in my hands saying this about black people like me who actually went to college, filled out applications and etc. for the record, my high school gpa was low. it was a 2.3. i went to community college and then a 4 year college. i graduated with a 3.4. probably would have been a lot higher if i focused a lot harder on some of the classes instead of being lazy. i know people that have flunked out of the school that i graduated from because it was too hard for them. i didn't graduate from a slow college.

hell, it's even scarier that people like him DO NOT realize that affirmative action was created to combat against institutional racism where blacks were basically being DENIED entry into universities because of their skin color. affirmative action wouldn't have came about if schools like the university of michigan wasn't being racist to begin with. so the supreme court basically said that since you guys don't want to stop discriminating, we're going to force you to stop. on top of that, the biggest group of people that benefit from affirmative action are white women. people talk about it as if black people are benefitting from it the most when they aren't.

and sadly enough, there are many people that FEEL exactly like him.

 

[mikemizanin729]

you're just talking simply just to talk. obviously because you are also clueless to what i'm talking about. instead of getting all upset and etc, try to at least comprehend what the fuck i'm saying before even trying to put out an opinion. the only thing you're doing is just making yourself look as if you're basically the type of person that i'm talking about like mr. nothard1up is.

I've been reading your posts for quite some time now and you basically play the victim card all the time. You go on about being a victim yet you call almost every gay man as much shit as you possibly can yet you're on a gay adult website then you go on about race 24/7 yet you make silly accusations that anyone who would dare disagree with what you're saying makes them some kind of racist inside.

the only thing you're doing is just making yourself look as if you're basically the type of person that i'm talking about

Well, you've done a good job of being that type of person yourself.

I would go on but you obviously only like to hear yourself talk.

 

[refujiunderground]

I've been reading your posts for quite some time now and you basically play the victim card all the time. You go on about being a victim yet you call an almost every gay man as much shit as you possibly can yet you're on a gay adult website.

I would go on but you obviously only like to hear yourself talk.

tell me where do i play the victim card?


simply because i vent about things that are bothering me and my opinions and shit. are other people that do the same thing playing the victim card when they do the same thing in a thread like this? sounds like you're really grasping straws right now. i don't hate gay people either. i will admit that i DO get annoyed at what some gay guys do where they simply don't get it. it's an issue of respect. i do think it's a PROBLEM when a guy simply doesn't know how to interact with me like i'm a human being without sex or whether he finds me attractive or not. i'm NOT used to that and don't think i will ever be used to that at all. i'm used to being friends with other guys where respect comes into play. we understand each other. we talk to each other like human beings and etc. i just so happen to have a lot of straight guys that are friends and they are cool. i have gay friends too. a majority of my gay friends are in relationships. they are cool. most of the ones that aren't in relationships on the other hand... they're cool too but i do find it a bit hard to communicate with them without sex popping up or some issue popping up where dudes are ready to trip on some bullshit.

i certainly don't see how i'm playing the victim card by talking about a REAL issue that affects me whether i like it or not. there's a lot of times where i see a white person being up "race" and it's usually on some negative shit. why is it okay for them to do that and not okay for a black person or a nonwhite person that is USUALLY the target for that shit to say something about it? sorry but it doesn't work like that.

 

[Alistair]

I'm close friends with black people. I spend 2 Sundays a month having dinner with my black neighbors at one of our house. I've gone with them to their church, they've met boyfriends over the years and invited them right along in. My community is really 33%black 33% Puerta Rican and 33% white. Completely mixed neighborhoods. When we lost power last winter we all huddled in a little old black ladies house. None of us in that community are prejudiced, or don't understand the plight of our neighbors. But we've all seen the black guy, the white guy and the Puerto Rican guy that come in to the neighborhood with a chip on their shoulder saying, no one understands me, how dare you talk that. They start out on the wrong foot. They look for prejudices that aren't there. They prejudge their new neighbors before they get a chance to know them.

Refujiunderground, I think you jump to conclusions about people before you've even had a chance to know them or for them know you.

 

[jdcnow]

Good news...

I've already shared this on tumblr, but this is a screenshot of my phone from roughly 11am this morning...

Over on the right side, you'll see my grade for my 2D Design class. My final grade as of 1045am this morning - Average of a 92.37. Actual points, 1755 on a 1900 scale - anything above 1700 even is an A. Officially, for the record, and what will go on file in the school registrar's office is an A, and a grade point average of this class of a 4.

I said this on tumblr, and I'm going to say it here, too. The old saying really is true - What doesn’t kill me should’ve tried harder.

Today was better than any birthday gift I could have gotten yesterday. Today was about self-confidence, about hard work paying off, about how, yes, I am good enough. One step closer to becoming the first person in my entire bloodline, as far as I know, to have ever graduated from a higher-education institution, and to hold a college degree in anything.

Honesty hour - My own mom once told me that I’d never amount to anything. When the opportunity presented itself, I finally moved here to the city, to Dallas-Fort Worth. Since moving here, I’ve done nothing BUT turn my life around. It’s taken blood, sweat, and tears - but this right here is documentable proof that it’s paying off. In spades. I am now one step closer to an Associates’ Degree in computer graphics and animation.

 

[ScottishBiTeen]

Life; a small, simple request: just fucking leave me alone for one sodding day so I can gather what little self-esteem, intelligence, feelings of self-worth I have left, bundle them into a rucksack and continue on my wretched, worthless path; otherwise known as you.

If that's not too much to ask...

 

[EddMarkStarr]

Life; a small, simple request: just fucking leave me alone for one sodding day so I can gather what little self-esteem, intelligence, feelings of self-worth I have left, bundle them into a rucksack and continue on my wretched, worthless path; otherwise known as you.

If that's not too much to ask...

It does get better, just give it some time.

 

[EddMarkStarr]

Good news...

Over on the right side, you'll see my grade for my 2D Design class. My final grade as of 1045am this morning - Average of a 92.37. Actual points, 1755 on a 1900 scale - anything above 1700 even is an A. Officially, for the record, and what will go on file in the school registrar's office is an A, and a grade point average of this class of a 4.

I said this on tumblr, and I'm going to say it here, too. The old saying really is true - What doesn’t kill me should’ve tried harder.

Today was better than any birthday gift I could have gotten yesterday. Today was about self-confidence, about hard work paying off, about how, yes, I am good enough. One step closer to becoming the first person in my entire bloodline, as far as I know, to have ever graduated from a higher-education institution, and to hold a college degree in anything.

Honesty hour - My own mom once told me that I’d never amount to anything. When the opportunity presented itself, I finally moved here to the city, to Dallas-Fort Worth. Since moving here, I’ve done nothing BUT turn my life around. It’s taken blood, sweat, and tears - but this right here is documentable proof that it’s paying off. In spades. I am now one step closer to an Associates’ Degree in computer graphics and animation.

Your hard work and determination illustrates the quality of your character. It's good news like yours that gives me hope that the world can't keep a good man down.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Good news...

Honesty hour - My own mom once told me that I’d never amount to anything. When the opportunity presented itself, I finally moved here to the city, to Dallas-Fort Worth. Since moving here, I’ve done nothing BUT turn my life around. It’s taken blood, sweat, and tears - but this right here is documentable proof that it’s paying off. In spades. I am now one step closer to an Associates’ Degree in computer graphics and animation.

Congratulations indeed. And Happy Birthday.

Sadly, it is not uncommon to hear that a parent has undermined the success of a child, and I remembeer my mother saying almost an identical thing when she merely heard me aspiring to college. Just like some people fail at marriage and relationships, they fail at parenting. But, unlike a marriage, a kid is strapped to that parent's "care" unless gross abuse is proven.

You deserve your celebration. Keep climbing. I'm the only one of five siblings to finish high school, so I know what you are feeling.

Life; a small, simple request: just fucking leave me alone for one sodding day so I can gather what little self-esteem, intelligence, feelings of self-worth I have left, bundle them into a rucksack and continue on my wretched, worthless path; otherwise known as you.

If that's not too much to ask...

Have you tried fucking Life in the ass? I heard he acts a lot different once you do.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Life; a small, simple request: just fucking leave me alone for one sodding day so I can gather what little self-esteem, intelligence, feelings of self-worth I have left, bundle them into a rucksack and continue on my wretched, worthless path; otherwise known as you.

If that's not too much to ask...

Don't ask questions of which you don't want to hear the answer.

 

[smokeshadow]

Good news...

I've already shared this on tumblr, but this is a screenshot of my phone from roughly 11am this morning...

Over on the right side, you'll see my grade for my 2D Design class. My final grade as of 1045am this morning - Average of a 92.37. Actual points, 1755 on a 1900 scale - anything above 1700 even is an A. Officially, for the record, and what will go on file in the school registrar's office is an A, and a grade point average of this class of a 4.

I said this on tumblr, and I'm going to say it here, too. The old saying really is true - What doesn’t kill me should’ve tried harder.

Today was better than any birthday gift I could have gotten yesterday. Today was about self-confidence, about hard work paying off, about how, yes, I am good enough. One step closer to becoming the first person in my entire bloodline, as far as I know, to have ever graduated from a higher-education institution, and to hold a college degree in anything.

Honesty hour - My own mom once told me that I’d never amount to anything. When the opportunity presented itself, I finally moved here to the city, to Dallas-Fort Worth. Since moving here, I’ve done nothing BUT turn my life around. It’s taken blood, sweat, and tears - but this right here is documentable proof that it’s paying off. In spades. I am now one step closer to an Associates’ Degree in computer graphics and animation.

Congrats, jcd. I see that even your sig line is celebrating

 

[refujiunderground]

i'ma make a sad prediction about the sad state of the "gay community".

today's 20 and 30 year olds all on grindr, scruff and these hookup apps... all shirtless, into themselves, searching for their dream guy that they have made up in their head, being all vain, superficial and etc, clearly lost in one way or another will be tomorrow's 40, 50 and 60 year gay men alone, basically down and depressed, unable to find somebody and desperately pressing up on younger people who will shun them. going also predict that the number of gay people getting married will be quite small. under 5%. also those married couples.. very few will be monogamous. there will be a lot of open marriages with dudes basically being unable to stay committed to their partner where they have to have sex with multiple people.

what i'm saying is that maybe we as a community in general are kind of overvaluing the wrong things that shouldn't matter over the things that do. i really find it hard to take a guy seriously that has to speak about himself through his appearance or basically interacts with guys that he wants to have sex with. do you have enough confidence and brainpower within yourself to interact with other people without sex being involved.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

^ I think the sex in homosexuality is kind of the point.

 

[refujiunderground]

^ I think the sex in homosexuality is kind of the point.

i get that.

but what happens when you want to love somebody. be romantic with them and etc. i find it that a lot of gay guys don't even know what REAL love is and for that matter, don't even know how to value it to the point if they ever stumble across it. maybe it's because they've been hurt. i also find the whole hookup thing to basically be counterproductive because dudes are basically programming themselves to see themselves and other dudes as emotionless objects. we have feelings too. i find it a bit disturbing for guys to be comfortable with someone seeing them as an object for gratification to the point of wanting to be disrespected where they aren't seen as human.

i often hear the same sad story about the introduction to what love is in the gay community from gay men is the sad narrative of a guy meeting another guy, hanging with him, falling in love with him, getting into a relationship and then that person that they fall in love with disappears on them without even giving them the courtesy to break up with them. like just vanishing on them. i've heard way too many guys say that shit and that to me is downright disturbing. what type of man literally breaks off a relationship by vanishing, not returning phone calls and shit like that? that shit is wack as fuck.