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The mystery of the 'straight guy' revealed (Long, please read!)

slnattak

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I think I understand the straight guy fetish once and for all.

Quite simply, it's eternally romantic. It's not that 'straight guys are hotter' (Ime other gay men are much more erotically pleasing to me) but they do, more than other gay men- place you in a situation that is eternally romantic. I'll explain:

They are straight. You both know this. You'll never get with them. Yet at the back of your mind you think, maybe, it IS possible- they'll make the exception just for you since you DO have a lot of base chemistry, so they always keep you hanging on that cliff of pure romance.

All romantic love truly is, after all- is that feeling of excitement and wonder that's about to happen- but it never fully arrives. It's an innate ideal that cannot be reached. When the love actually arrives it ceases to be romantic love. It's now true love- and it's now more peaceful and settling than passionate or pining. With another gay man it can arrive. But what then? You'd have to keep moving on with your life- you couldn't stay stuck in eternal romance like you can with straight guys. And even though pining over straight guys might feel bad and uncomfortable there's still that hope that-- since it's really all about love more than orientations, you can MAYBE one day, hopefully- be together, even though it will clearly NEVER happen.

More and more philosophers and new age thinkers are understanding that romantic love isn't true love. True love is love that actually occurs or is happening right now. Romantic love is *Potential* true love that hasn't happened yet. (and may never happen- but it feels like it always COULD happen.) Romantic love is the feeling of getting to drink the pepsi. True love is actually getting to drink the pepsi. Romantic love is more uncomfortable, but it ultimately motivates people more - even if it's an illusion, and a sin (Lust - which isn't sexual pleasure but desiring a sexual pleasure that you can never have). Romantic/true love... you know, it's a balance. You probably avoid gay men that you can be with, because you like to put your heart through a lot of struggles since what is life without passion and expecting positive experiences? It's soap opera-y that way. But then you get tired of it and you just want it to HAPPEN already- so you get back to a person you can be with.

Now if two gay men play their cards right, it can be romantic AND true love... I'd imagine, as long as they both understand and play that game. As long as they can build the tempo enough before the grand finale, so to speak. But in a world that always encouraged gay men not to socialize with one another this can be hard. It too often goes straight to simply using each other instead of building up the relationship naturally. It's all too easy to get lonely growing up gay so when you finally meet another gay man you think 'what they hey we're both gay , attractive - let's just DO this already.

What is romantic love without true love? What is true love without romantic love? You clearly need both.
 
Um... I think you thought waaay too much into it. I don't see it as something romantic at all really.

It's just hot because to me straight guys are more masculine 9 out of 10 times and it's sort of taking their man sex virginity.
 
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romantic love = give flowers ..etc = fake

true love = the person knows everything about you inside out and still like to be with you.
 
I think deeply about things that's just my nature.

Romantic love isn't about giving flowers. It's about the natural feeling of feeling something great that's about to happen. Now something good actually HAPPENING is a different subject.

Yeah I'm highly intelligent. No offense but I always think deeply about things, because that's just how I am.
 
Um... I think you thought waaay too much into it. I don't see it as something romantic at all really.

It's just hot because to me straight guys are more masculine 9 out of 10 times and it's sort of taking their man sex virginity.

Yep, totally agree, that's it. Not much to add.
 
He was making a point to ascertain the "why" people do the things they do. You could say brain surgery is hard. Simple statement. But why is it so difficult? How is it difficult? You spend ten years in school doing that.

So yeah, give the guy a break.
 
The attraction of their straightness is purely because they are generally more masculine, as mentioned before. If you get yourself a 'straight' guy and then it develops into a gay relationship, so be it - as long as he stays masculine and doesn't become a whiney queen who minces about, then its all good. Masculine gay guys are fine - mighty fine - but you have to sort through a lot of fluff and princesses to get to them.
 
good point slnattak, but I think it could be differrent for some others...again really good point, the unatainable as the always point of affection...or sex if you will
 
well in his defense a "truly" straight guy would never have sex with a gay man, imo. SO given a guys human nature i would say that we do like a challenge. and yes some of the allure of a straight guy is the fact that they do generally act like MEN! this is something the in our gay community i've never understood. i like men not women, and def not men that act like women, maybe this goes back to gay men liking so called straight men, because maybe these men are more attracted to more feminine men
 
well in his defense a "truly" straight guy would never have sex with a gay man, imo. SO given a guys human nature i would say that we do like a challenge. and yes some of the allure of a straight guy is the fact that they do generally act like MEN! this is something the in our gay community i've never understood. i like men not women, and def not men that act like women, maybe this goes back to gay men liking so called straight men, because maybe these men are more attracted to more feminine men

true to a point. I'm not one of them but there are lots of guys who like fem guys, but theres been a running thread on that subject for some time now.
 
THANK YOU slnattak!!!!

i think your post is 100% dead on correct.

i once read an extensive article called "The Science of LOVE" and it essentially stated exactly what you wrote above, only in terms of chemical reactions. this "romantic love" as the initial phase of interaction. the lust, the desire, the longing and wanting and butterflies-in-the-stomach, etc. once familiarity and acceptance and ritual set in, it is replaced by different chemical reactions - these promote comfort, security, wellness, calmness, belonging, etc this would be your "true love".

i think you made a very true point, and i enjoyed reading it and i thank you for sharing!
 
IMHO if the fellow truly thinks of himself as straight, even if he has never given himself permission to show a bit of curiosity, he may become a possible friend and that is something of value in itself, but he ought never to be brought to the point of man to man sex by any kind of seduction.

My own feeling that is that in a climate of relative freedom two persons may so bond with each other that they become more than friends. I my own experience, it sex is to happen it will come about naturally because both persons have come to the point where they want and need sexual expression. The key point is that the reluctant straight has on his own given himself permission to express himself in a way which he had not consciously considered before. In my own case, I discovered it was not the end of the world but an opening up of a part of my sexuality which I, and my partner, had never considered seriously before. It was the breaking of a logjam in our minds and we went on to enjoy two years of loving relationship. We continued to regard ourselves as regular guys; we both eventually married, and we still regard our two years of relationship as having been very important to our understanding of ourselves and human sexuality.

There is something about committed relationships that eases the approach to those things which were previously shunned and dismissed as too far out to be taken seriously.
 
Str8 guys are a total turn off for me. I need only think they have been with a woman to get totally disgusted. When I know a guy has been with guys, he is a total turn on. The problem is most men I know, are married with a woman. So, in order to get me excited, I need at least to know they have nothing else than guy-to-guy sex on their minds. Then I can have sex with them.
 
I can only say this...
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