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The Official "Big Brother 10" Discussion Thread!

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Oh god after watching tonight's episode.

Keesha is very ugly. She either looks like a zombie w/o makeup or looks like she's in drag with makeup. I think she's only hating April because she realized she wasnt the hot blond and she couldnt manipulate the guys in the house because no one is interested. In the beginning she was bitchier and cattier than Libra but right on par with April. Now she wants to portray like she's Mother Teresa. bitch please

Angie is cute on the big screen. But she has no game. She thinks she's on holiday. That bitch needs to get off her ass and make moves. I would hate for her to win just because everyone thinks she's so cool and nice

Dan seems like he's mentally challenged when he's in the DR. He shouts at the camera like it's running away from him. And he looks like he can't see. His whole look and image is like a scrawny high school kid from 1997 with that cheap gel in his hair. Why the fuck is he always sweating? How rude to be in the HOH room w/o permission. Overall he does seem nice but his game is a mess too.

And April is so dickmatized it's insane.
Yeah, I was wondering why he was screaming in the DR. I just chalked it up to him either being from New York or Boston, maybe New Jersey, but I don't remember where he is actually from.

He did have premission to be in the HOH room. He asked Jessie before he went up. But he just had a different motive for being up there.
 
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They really need to get Jerry out. He's the type that will make it to the end just because no one views him as a threat and he generally is likable.

If Jesse was smart, he should have buried that hatchet with Renny and put her on his side telling her before the noms that he won't nominate her. That way, she'll be forever grateful that he forgave her and in the future he surely would have her vote for not putting her up.

By the way, did anybody notice how bad Jesse's grammar was during the show? I'm a stickler for grammar.

Aren't you guys somewhat jealous of the ladies here? I am!

OMG those lucky bitches.
 
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Well as per Will/Janelle that whole thing is summed up in the fate of George. George had a rather unreasonable loyalty to Janelle and was a complete non-threat. The fact Janelle even evicted him is proof she wasn't "playing" Will in the slightest. If so rather than even nominate George she would've nominated Will/Mike
 
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Well not only that but she would've gotten a pass to the final round of the last HOH which if you remember correctly she was out in the kitchen playing by herself and won.
 
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You know I like you, but...you're wrong about some of this. LOL.

First, April was still there using her relationship with Ollie to guilt him into spilling the beans about Brian. Of course it was all Libra (who is one of the most perceptive people I've ever seen on this show) who came up with it, but Ollie would have more incentive to lie had he not been in lurrrrv with April. See what I mean? He outed his alliance because Apwil batted hew wittle weyes and acted all pouty and hurt. And the fact is, April has been at least marginally involved (through association with Libra) in controlling the first two HOH's while Ollie has mostly laid around. I'm not saying April doesn't like Ollie -- she seems very infatuated with him indeed -- but this may be the one year where both of them feel equally for each other. They're either 1) both completely sincere (like Lisa and Eric in Season 3) in which case when they inevitably end up on the block together, Ollie will survive because April has a larger target on her back, and Ollie may be able to slide all the way to the end after his lover's eviction the way Lisa did, OR 2) April is playing/controlling Ollie the way Will/Drew/Eric controlled Janelle/Diane/Jess.

So either way, Ollie is "the girl" this time around :D

Now for your BB history (which is off). First, Drew never saved Diane. Not once. Oh my god. I watched that entire season and followed it religiously on the feeds and it's on youtube if you wanna go take a look. Diane earned every penny that pretty asshole took home. He played her. Her feelings were always stronger and he knew that (and he had a girl back home) and still he told her what she wanted to hear, even making post-game promises he knew he would never keep (and that to me was crossing the line). And as for the Horsemen? She never needed "saving" from the Horsemen. In the first few weeks, the Horsemen were too busy trying to get Lori and the old guy who was unto them to even bother thinking about Diane (even though Scott/Jase didn't like her), so Drew never had to "save" her. Then the rest of the house was able to get Drew to put up Holly (playing on Scott's jealousy as well) and Holly went home. Then Diane won HOH (perfect timing too since this was when Scott/Jase blew up at her and would have been gunning for her) and from there on, it was downhill for the two frat guys. Scott was evicted during Diane's HOH reign and Jase went the next week as a victim of the six finger plan during Nakomis' reign.

DIANE was the one who then allowed Drew to slide (he should have been next on the hit-list) by pulling him into the girl's alliance and then teaming up (for like one week) with the twins when Adria was HOH to even out the numbers so Drew wouldn't be the target. Then when it was down to F5 and Nakomis won HOH, Drew was finally the target but Diane came up with the plan for the boys to help her win POV so she could use it on Drew, Nakomis would have no choice but to put Karen up, and Diane and Dew as the only voters that week could save Cowboy and send Karen home. This was all Diane. And she did it all because she was blinded by her feelings for Drew and her own desperate, pathetic need to be loved. Trust me. He played her.

As for Janelle and Will? Please. If I hear one more person say "They played each other" I will lose it. You're a logical person aijalon (as proven by the race debate we fought together last week) so follow this: when there are only two people and "playing" is involved...they both cannot be playing each other! If one person is "playing" then the other person is the one being played. It's that simple. Janelle kept repeating that lie after the show to hide her real feelings but it was obvious that she had a crush on Will and he didn't feel as strongly about it. Oh he liked flirting with her to be sure, but at the end of the day, he only wanted friendship. It's OK for Janelle to tell that version because she needs to hold on to her pride but there's no reason for logical viewers to pretend it's true. I like Janelle and I was rooting for her in Seasons 6 & 7 but she's not the brightest girl. She did everything that Will told her to do all season, and the only time she turned on him was when it was too late (by then Boogie was already guaranteed a F3 spot and indeed ending up winning) and even then -- with all the glaring signs and obviousness of it all -- even then Janelle couldn't get from "I have the POV and the sole vote" to "Will needs to be evicted" on her own. She needed Erika to draw her a map (poor Erika was exhausted. It's not easy trying to appeal logically to someone who was as dickmatized as Janelle was by Will).

Will never did anything Janelle wanted and even refused to kiss her, even when she threw herself at him shamelessly in the pool. And after she was evicted? Oh the humiliation did not stop! You could see Janelle on the jury bashing Erika and pleading for Boogie to win in an obviously desperate attempt to get Will to like her -- she was even laughing too hard at everything he said and falling all over him, touching his legs and burying her face in his lap, and all the while Will looked thoroughly uncomfortable. It was almost painful to watch and the sad ironic truth is: after all the shit talking Janelle did about Diane and how pathetic Diane was to fall for Drew and blow her own game...Janelle went and did the same thing two years later with Will. I still like her, mind you, but let's call the truth when we see it and not be clouded by favoritism. I can like her and still admit that she was kind of a dunce during All Stars.

And Eric and Jess? Um yeah...gross for sure but he totally controlled her. I mean lord...at least Diane and Janelle were feisty and spunky and cool. Jess had no mind of her own outside of Eric and played an disappointing and timorous game for someone capable of winning multiple HOH competitions.

Let's not rewrite history. These girls were PLAYED. Time will tell whether April or Ollie is "the girl" this year.

Damn you Nik, you're right! :grrr: You're seriously like a fuckin prosecutor. You lay your case out so clearly and completely.

Ill get your ass one of these days, because you are still wrong about Libra. I just haven't figured out why or how?
 
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Damn you Nik, you're right! :grrr: You're seriously like a fuckin prosecutor. You lay your case out so clearly and completely.

Ill get your ass one of these days, because you are still wrong about Libra. I just haven't figured out why or how?

Well he is in an ivy leauge law school :P
 
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Well he is in an ivy leauge law school :P
Really. I should have known. Don't tell me he goes to Harvard.

In other news, I just saw some clips from last night and i think Steve and Libra would have made a good team. They have a certain natural chemistry and banter as friends. Too bad they were on opposite sides. They could have balanced each other out gamewise. He could have calmed her down and put her in check so she wouldnt annoy people. She's so smart and perceptive but has destroyed her game by running that fat gob too much. They would have been unstoppable together. But she got alligned with trainwreck april and he jumped on Brian's sinking ship.
 
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OK so I just watched last nights episode and it showed without a doubt that Jessie is a moron and a puppet.
 
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Im in love with Steven, I dont want him to go.....
Damn hes hot.
 
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You seem to not hate him as much ever since he started trying to allign with Libra. Before that, everything he did was being stupid and an asshole.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything but you mocked us saying we only liked people like Keesha and others for starting to side with Angie/Dan/Steven and hating Libra.
I still don't like Steven too much. I remember saying he was dumb. Part of his stupidity imo was hating on Libra. I think they could have worked well together. She acts like an idiot too by not having control over her mouth. But he is good at making these little puppy dog faces and making people feel sorry for him. And he is the only guy in tthe house who is entertaining.

The difference is I don't think Steven is all of a sudden a great guy and I haven't forgotten why I don't like him. The new Keesha lovers act like she is some kind of angel. But she is a total hypocrite.
 
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Keesha (to me) seems like she genuinely dislikes April/Libra for the same reason the vast majority of viewers dislike them. However unlike Dan/Steven/Angie Keesha was not willing to let her dislike for the cult kamakazi her game. Honestly I think it's a bit dumb because this whole game is a numbers game and once one rat jumps ship they all do. Had she made a solid move in the beginning of the week or end of last towards Steven/Angie/Dan I think she could've pulled Renny Jerry. But one must look at it and ask.. what good does that do? If Steven/Angie/Dan had won HOH Keesha would've jumped and Renny and Jerry would be with them and you'd have this sort of misfits alliance. Considering the fact they all should've known Jerry was Grodner's favorite and the uber-bitchiness of the other side I think they may have stood a decent chance.

But now that Angie has firmed up protection with M/M/J (smart may I add to team up with people who can easily pushed above her in the pecking order for physical reasons) and they have Dan hoovering the time for Keesha's ship jumping has passed and she needs to buckle down and deal with these people now. Lord knows you can't vent outside of the DR or the fury of hell falls down upon you. As it is Keesha's been forming a relatively solid bond with Renny and I think she's in a good place. M/M/J/A are bound to target L/O/A before her and Renny.

There's problem going to be at least one more week of peace in an attemtp to evict Jerry (who will happen to win the veto in a contest miraculously and coincidentally geared to his strength shortly before we cut to a diary room where we're reminded that his wife is very sick) At anyrate Keesha's in good shape. She's in a spot where she can sit and let the dust settle.

More importantly though... she comes off as genuine. I believe her when she says she really likes Steven and it upsets her that she has to work against him but she knows that she does. I believe her when she says she feels being around April and Libra makes her a worse/cattier person. I believe her. She comes off to me at least as a person who has found herself in unfortunate circumstances but knows her life depends on them.
 
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Honestly I think April is the root of the cattiness. If you watch the episode with the food comp. April sucked balls in the competition. She threw so many corks over Memphis' head. As soon as it was done April was the first one starting to blame people for their loss. Libra started to argue with her said something like stop pointing fingers we all tried our best. Then a little bit later she started to change her attitude. I think April brings out the cattiness in her.
 
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No Libra is just more diplomatic about the cattiness but it's there and you can tell. Before the challenge even started they were both pissy about the teams and I remember watching it live right after it ended. Libra woudl say over adn over again you can't blame any one person for that BUT the teams were unfair and unbalanced because they had both old people... which is bull. If you're saying you can't blame people how are you then going on to say the teams weren't fair because of two people... that's blaming them. Just because you put a disclaimer out there it doesn't nullify the clear implication of your core statement she just needed to say the first part so if anyone came at her she could say no I said it's no one's fault....

And April is clearly the most (but not the only) source of Angie cattiness because she is insanely insecure. She thought her huge tits would just magically maker her the hottest girl in the house but she didn't expect Angie to be there.
 
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That's actually a lot of weight for a girl, she doesn't look that big. It shouldn't be that bad for her to lose weight since she just had twins 5 months before entering the house so she should have extra fat to lose.

I think Libra is a tall woman. i remember her towering over Ollie and all the other girls on the show.
 
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No Libra is just more diplomatic about the cattiness but it's there and you can tell. Before the challenge even started they were both pissy about the teams and I remember watching it live right after it ended. Libra woudl say over adn over again you can't blame any one person for that BUT the teams were unfair and unbalanced because they had both old people... which is bull. If you're saying you can't blame people how are you then going on to say the teams weren't fair because of two people... that's blaming them. Just because you put a disclaimer out there it doesn't nullify the clear implication of your core statement she just needed to say the first part so if anyone came at her she could say no I said it's no one's fault....

And April is clearly the most (but not the only) source of Angie cattiness because she is insanely insecure. She thought her huge tits would just magically maker her the hottest girl in the house but she didn't expect Angie to be there.

Wow you've gone deep on analyzing the catty. And I can agree Libra is diplomatic. I personally don't care about catty behavior. I don't think it is any reason to hate a player personally. I think it is an awkward environment and you cant always predict how you will act in that situation. No one's talking about suicidal fathers, schizophrenic mothers, dead babies falling out of vaginas, so i honestly don't think its a big deal.

But you conveniently seem to forget how catty and awful Keesha was for a long time. In fact she still is. She takes any and every opportunity to slag April and Libra off. She tells anyone who will listen how awful they are whenever they are not in the room. One of the main reasons people have said they dont like April and Libra is how mean and gossipy they are. Keesha's behavior is still no different. If a certain behavior is bad it should be bad regardless of who is doing it. maybe the same rules don't apply to Keesha because she befriended the slightly racist homo.
 
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Wow you've gone deep on analyzing the catty. And I can agree Libra is diplomatic. I personally don't care about catty behavior. I don't think it is any reason to hate a player personally. I think it is an awkward environment and you cant always predict how you will act in that situation. No one's talking about suicidal fathers, schizophrenic mothers, dead babies falling out of vaginas, so i honestly don't think its a big deal.

But you conveniently seem to forget how catty and awful Keesha was for a long time. In fact she still is. She takes any and every opportunity to slag April and Libra off. She tells anyone who will listen how awful they are whenever they are not in the room. One of the main reasons people have said they dont like April and Libra is how mean and gossipy they are. Keesha's behavior is still no different. If a certain behavior is bad it should be bad regardless of who is doing it. maybe the same rules don't apply to Keesha because she befriended the slightly racist homo.

No the difference is as follows. Here's a mock conversation (granted a hyperboyle)

April: Angie's a total bitch. She wants to be just like me! (completely absurd delusion of reality)

Libra: You know what sucks.... slop. (true and initially ok)

April: Angie eats simply to taunt me and not because she herself enjoys food (still absurd and delusional)

Libra: You know what I don't like to eat slop! Slop sucks! Brian is evil! I don't like slop! (Stuck on the past, quite repetitive and over exaggerated)

April: And Angie wears Brian's hat just to taunt me (self centered and insane once more)

Libra: Brian is evil. Brian probably invented slop because he's evil and I hate slop. You know what I don't like slop.... and Brian. (Still repetive and annoying)

April: Angie wants Ollie. (completely baseless)

Libra: And she likes Brian... who's evil. They're both evil. They made slop together. Slop is evil. (CRAZY annoying and repetitive)

Where as Keesha/Renny is normally more like this

Keesha: I can't stand April and Libra anymore (nor can I!!!)

Renny: Me eitha... I like hats.

Keesha: They're just such catty bitches (true)

Renny: I still like hats. Libra I don't like.

Keesha: I like steven

Renny: Jessie is mean.

Keesha: Libra and April just want to suck the fun out of the whole house! It sucks (I agree)

Renny: I'm gonna go make a cake!!!!!!!! I like hats!!!!!!!!!

See to me the first conversation makes me want to punch people in the throat the second doesn't really annoy me.
 
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Angie just asked for sock puppets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Angie just said "And then there were two."

It made me so very very sad.

Steven/Angie/Dan should form an alliance with Julie Chen. Then they'll never be evicted.
 
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No the difference is as follows. Here's a mock conversation (granted a hyperboyle)

April: Angie's a total bitch. She wants to be just like me! (completely absurd delusion of reality)

Libra: You know what sucks.... slop. (true and initially ok)

April: Angie eats simply to taunt me and not because she herself enjoys food (still absurd and delusional)

Libra: You know what I don't like to eat slop! Slop sucks! Brian is evil! I don't like slop! (Stuck on the past, quite repetitive and over exaggerated)

April: And Angie wears Brian's hat just to taunt me (self centered and insane once more)

Libra: Brian is evil. Brian probably invented slop because he's evil and I hate slop. You know what I don't like slop.... and Brian. (Still repetive and annoying)

April: Angie wants Ollie. (completely baseless)

Libra: And she likes Brian... who's evil. They're both evil. They made slop together. Slop is evil. (CRAZY annoying and repetitive)

Where as Keesha/Renny is normally more like this

Keesha: I can't stand April and Libra anymore (nor can I!!!)

Renny: Me eitha... I like hats.

Keesha: They're just such catty bitches (true)

Renny: I still like hats. Libra I don't like.

Keesha: I like steven

Renny: Jessie is mean.

Keesha: Libra and April just want to suck the fun out of the whole house! It sucks (I agree)

Renny: I'm gonna go make a cake!!!!!!!! I like hats!!!!!!!!!

See to me the first conversation makes me want to punch people in the throat the second doesn't really annoy me.

Obviously April and Libra's behavior puts them on par with Hitler in your eyes. I've admitted April's comments are ridiculous. But Libra is fully entitled to think Brian is evil. i personally didnt like his cocky, obnoxious personality. I didnt find him funny or cool. She should be able to feel about Brian however she wants. She doesnt get into April's level of absurdity.

Keesha's conversations are not that tame. She was the first person i heard being catty on feed launch.
"Jen isn't pretty. She has man arms. She's all about me, me, me,me! I cant stand that girl." The bitch doesnt even know her.
You're example with Keesha's conversation is not accurate. You're clearly biased and refuse to be objective. So there's no point.
 
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