Ok, I totally agree that Libra's comments were racist and she should be ashamed of herself -- and unfortunately aijalon, I think you undermined the validity of your moral outrage in previous posts by not taking a firm stance against Libra's comments -- but, Blackwolf I disagree with
1) the assertion that "reverse racism" or "white racism" is the same because it's not. I really don't want to get deeply into this debate again, but there is a difference between making generalizations about a group of people (which is wrong, I agree) and deep-seated, historic and socio-economic reasons behind institutionalized racism, a history of racism, xenophobia and white notions of beauty etc. In other words, white people in America are the dominant culture and as such, it is different when someone makes a joke about white people as when someone makes a joke about a person of color. One group (people of color) have to bear the burden of representation because they are not seen as individuals by the dominant culture. When a white man commits a crime or does or says something heinous, it's all on him. But when a person of color does it, it's a burden for the whole race. And only one group (people of color) has to deal with those comments stemming from a history of marginalization, inequality, power dynamics etc. White people in America do not have a history of slavery, of Japanese internment camps, of being called towel-heads or terrorists just for being brown, of exploitated labor due to immigration laws, of losing their land and having their people erased in a genocide, of a terrible Holocaust.* It's a completely different social phenomenon and it may not be "fair" to white people, but hey, so much is unfair to the other side that we really can't complain. We can't demand equal outrage when the playing field was never equal to begin with and was always -- and we should never forget this -- always tilted in favor of the white dominant culture (a culture I belong to, but I can still see these problems for what they are).
2) the assertion that Steven "explained it all away." I don't care what Steven said to justify it, it was racist dude. We've been through this before. I don't think it makes Steven a horrible person or anything, but it does make him racist and I'm disappointed that we keep letting him off the hook just because he was a white gay man...but I'm not shocked. Nope. Not shocked at all. I've been on this board long enough to know that for most people here, racism will always have to be obvious to be identified and even so, it can be easily overlooked if the person is gay. Again, I'm not saying Steven committed an unforgivable sin, but let's not pretend it wasn't racist. The explanation about Jerry did not make it OK for him to continue to refer to Libra as "colored." And hello? The Mexican/Black joke he made? That the cop would be the driver? That was outright racist.
All this said, I think Libra has proven she is equally offensive and racist and aijalon, you lose major points for also trying to overlook that. What she said was offensive to another minority race group, not to the dominant culture. And she should be equally held accountable as Steven was. I've said this before but principles only mean something if you stick by them when they are inconvenient. You cannot be upset at Steven making racist comments against a minority group but then be OK when Libra does it against a minority group. And vice versa. And I know you're going to say you don't let her off the hook, but the fact remains, when the issue was first brought up (about her racist comments), you were very careful not to call her out on it. You need to understand that women, gays and people of color can be just as bad towards (and for) other women, gays and people of color, as the dominant culture has been. If you're going to decry racism, then it has to be a universal maxim (insofar as we agree that true racism is when it appears against a minority race group and not the dominant culture) -- it has to be NOT OK when racist comments are made by anyone about any minority race group. Otherwise you concede the moral highground. I guess what I'm saying is
Aijalon, you're wrong to overlook Libra's racist comments and
Blackwolf, you're wrong to overlook Steven's racist comments.
(* I mentioned the Holocaust because only in America are Jews considered "white." I assure you in Europe and everywhere else in the world, this is not the case. And anyway, in America it was a fairly recent historical phenomenon to expand the term white to Jews, Italians and Irish.)
No point going on because we're just going ot be scolded .
Because I totally disagreed in my original post with your statement that it's less offensive when a minority says something racist about another minority. Because it isn't. I'd bet the farm that if Angie had made racist comments about Libra, you wouldn't have found it "less offensive." The truth is, you're subjecting Libra to a lower standard because 1) she's black and 2) you like her (and I'm beginning to wonder if those two points are mutually exclusive where you are concerned) 
(love you)
