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The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

I have watched sporatically 2 hrs of SHO AD and Ragan has not stopped crying. I will be so happy when he gets to watch the show and sees what a great judge of character he is. "Matt has so much integrity." Did he think he was going to be in the BB house and never have a problem. He knows the game so well and yet he has no idea what the game really is or about. He may mentally know the game but he has made the same mistakes as those who came before him. His arrogance started when everyone complimented him on the way he looks, and that America gave him a sab power. So he has turned into a crying Rachel, or those girls who wailed when jesse was voted out. He is no different than they are, and his lack of judgement will rue his game just like they were ruined.
 
aijalon18 said:
^Yea Britney does love Lane. But he doesnt love her ass. He's an asshole to her and she doesnt even get it. Like when he told her and Ragan they were going up as soon as Brendon won.
Ive completely gone off of her b/c she's just a punk bitch. She's doing all this whining and crying instead of getting off her sorry ass and trying to make moves. And she hasnt even been funny in a while.
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I would disagree with that. Brit is not a GRAND PLAN kinda chick. This is true but she keeps her ass in it and plays week by week. Fact of the matter is she's not on the block and I think a lot of that has to do with the pitch she made to Brendon about her being a competitor and not a 'floater' and there being people who don't 'deserve' to be here. She actually had a long convo with Brenden in HOH today where they talked about a one or two week immunity agreement. She's not an architect but she is a survivalist. She does what she needs to and if it weren't for the magic shiny diamond veto she'd make it through the week but as...

RAGAN WON VETO

my thoughts on my girl wil be sent packing. If she's not nominated now likely she'll be Matt's replacement.
 
from Jokers

"Regan talks about how he thought he was going to faint because he hadnt eaten much, but he thought, that would be such a gay way to get out of the comp. The other boys laugh. "

I think Ragan won POV.
 
Sigh unless Matt tries to Diamond Veto Kathy out the backdoor -- thereby smartly positioning himself between two alliances in the house (a winning strategy) -- or unless he turns on the Brigade this week (highly unlikely) Brit is a goner.

Her only shot now is to convince Brenda to put up Kathy as the replacement nominee.
 
Rachel telling Ragan to grow some balls and be a man. For once we agree.

Too bad, BB is manipulating the game. They kicked her out for a reason.
 
^ Don't be lost. :lol:

Brendon said he didn't put Britney up because she's played her ass off and deserves to be there.

Ragan won pov

Brendon opened another Pandora's box in the HOH and he was locked inside.
Rachel is in the house for only 24hrs while Brendon is locked away.

We don't know if he knows she's back in, prb doesn't. I bet he got some money for opening the box, though.

If Ragan uses the veto on himself, Brendon will likely put Matt up.
Matt will use his diamond veto and replace himself w/ Kathy most likely.
 
^^^^

You just made my day, and probably tomorrow.



So the catch to Pandora's Box is that he had to be in there for 24 hours or is that just a logical explanation to why he would be in there for that long?



I think it would be cool (Goes back to my original Leak DR sessions) That Brenden opens the box and Rachel gets to come in (Ask those questions) and Brenden gets to watch. Eh, nothing that cool could happen this season
 
Falconfan, Matt/Brit/Ragan have a bond and sub-alliance. It's still possible Matt would use Diamond Veto on himself and put Kathy up. The problem is if Brendan replaces Ragan with Britney instead of Matt, because Matt may not use the Diamond in that scenario, opting instead to lay low.
 
Um... the Ragan/Rachel fight was amazing. Watch it on flashback if you have the feeds.

That's all.
 
Woah wait a miunte! Why did he put Lane up on the block? Is he using him as a pawn?
 
The Ragan/Rachel fight was EPIC! On par with Season 10 fights!

Oh and falconfan is totally correct in his assessment of Britney; she's not playing well for a long-term game but she does play well int he short term and to deny her that is to not be paying attention to the feeds. Proof? Britney has ALREADY made Rachel think they're BFFs again even after Rachel confronted her about her goodbye video! I don't know how Brit does it but...wow.

Basically though, Brit is fucked this week if Brendan puts her up as replacement (because Matt would likely then just not use the Diamond), whereas if Brendan puts up Matt, he'll HAVE to use the Diamond and Mtat is way more likely to put Kathy up as replacement than Britney.
 
Hayden and Enzo have basically been planning to go rogue from the Brigades and ditch Matt if necessary (naturally, they don't know about Diamond) -- and this plan has been brewing for days now. Oh how I WISH Matt would find out about this and use the Diamond to get one of them out of there instead. Not because I have anything against those guys, but it would be such an awesome move and of course, it would save my Britney.

I'm a little surprised though that Enzo is doing this with Hayden and not Lane.
 
Here's a transcript of the Ragan/Rachel fight.
6:13pm BBT
Rachel comes out into the backyard to offer Ragan cookies (even though she knows he's a have not)

Rachel: Hey Ragan, I'm going to make some really big, soft, gooey cookies. Do you want some?
Ragan: Rachel
Rachel: What?
Ragan: You don't intimidate me, you repulse me.
Rachel: Really?
Ragan: You're a pathetic human being. YEAH, REALLY!
Rachel: Awww, that's sad
Ragan: You're about as classy as your nasty hair extensions
Rachel: Oooh!
Ragan: Oooh!
Ragan: So you can take your homophobic innuendo and get the fuck out of my face
Rachel: Oh, what are you going to do?
Ragan: (mocking) Oh, whare are you going to do?
Rachel: Would you like a cookie, Ragan, I was trying to be nice
Ragan: Why don't you go back to Forever 21 and return all of your clothing
Rachel: Oh ACTUALLY, it's not from Forever 21, it's from a lot nicer designer than you're wearing right now
Ragan: Oh, my work-out clothes? Way to go, Rachel.
Rachel: Anything you OWN, Ragan. Do you even know how to shop, Toby? (from the Office)
Ragan: Toby?
Rachel: Oh, I'm sorry you look like Toby because that pisses you off. Why don't you go get with your alliance?
Ragan: What? (mocking) Why don't you go with your alliance??
Rachel: Ooooh! You're so feisty Ragan!
Ragan: Shoot for the roof, Rachel. You have a degree, and you're a waitress. Get out of my face!
Rachel: And what do YOU do?
Ragan: I am a teacher
Rachel: And so am I, dumbass!
Ragan: Oh really? Yeah
Rachel: Are you kidding me?!
Ragan: Do you teach other waitresses how to get glasses and put it on their trays and bring it to tables?!
Rachel: Yeah Ragan, I do. And I also travel around the world ..
Ragan: (mocking) I travel around the world and I go to Vegas! And I lie about $20,000 bottles of wine and I'm so badass!
Rachel: Oh really, I lie about it? What do I lie about? Tell me three things I lie about!
Ragan: Rachel, everything about you is a lie!
Rachel: Oh really?
Ragan: Your boobs are a lie, your face is a lie. The only thing honest about you is the pimples on your chin. You're a wicked witch. Why don't you get on your broom and fly back inside.
Rachel laughs.
Ragan mocks Rachel's laugh.
Ragan: You're a disgusting, repulsive human being and America sees it now too. I can't WAIT to watch every single episode of how vile and disgusting you are. I will press play and rewind and pause and just look at how disgusting you are. And I'll get a years worth of love and joy from that. So go ahead, keep on talking, Rachel.
Rachel laughs.
Ragan mocks her laugh.
Rachel: You are so funny!
Ragan: You're so disgusting!
Rachel: Is that why, is that why your family doesn't want to talk to you? Is that why you don't have a boyfriend?!
Ragan: My dad, who is dead, doesn't want to talk to me? Ok.
Rachel: Oh no, I'm sorry, your seven or ten siblings
Ragan: My mom, who I'm best friends with, my sister
Rachel: Ragan, all you do is cry. You're such a baby! All you .. you think
Ragan: I'M THE ONE WHO CRIES??!
Ragan: (mocking again) Please don't use the veto, please don't use the veto. Bowling competition (sits on the ground) Okay, I'm going to throw it .. uhhh!
Ragan: You're going to call ME a crier, Rachel?
Rachel: Oh my god, all you do is cry. You go in your stupid have-not room and you cry because you're so emotional
Ragan: Rachel, I cry because I have to deal with something as disgusting as you
Rachel: And I cry because I had to live in an house with someone as lame and as such a loser as you are. Ragan, nobody thinks your fucking cool! Get with the program!
Ragan: Can I get two rum and Cokes?!
Rachel: You're a gay guy who's not even good at being gay.
Ragan: Can I get two rum and Cokes and a margarita?!
Rachel: Oh you're so funny, why don't you insult me a little more. You are so good at this insulting game
Ragan: Oh, you are .. Looking in the mirror should be an insult to you
Rachel: Because you won one competition?
Ragan: You won two and you're out of the game! What are you talking about?
Ragan: You wanna compare stats? In head to head individual competitions, with your boyfriend, we've been in six indvidual competitions. He's beaten me in one. So please, keep running your mouth
Rachel: I beat you in two Ragan.
Ragan: Oh wow, you beat me in two!
Rachel: And how many did you beat me in?
Ragan: I don't know!
Rachel: Zero!
Ragan: Because I try to keep you out of my mind. You are a vile, disgusting human being!
Rachel: You are a worse vile and worse disgusting human being, Ragan. And I have so many things I want to say to you that I'm not going to say on camera because I have more CLASS than that.
Ragan: Yes, when America looks at Rachel Reilly, CLASS is the first thing that comes to mind.
Rachel: And when America looks at Ragan, being awesome and fabulous is definitely not something that they think.
Rachel: Would you like an awesome gooey cookie like I came out here to ask you?
Ragan: I would love to like take one and shove it in your mouth to get you to shut up.
Rachel mumbles and then just starts to laugh
Ragan: Cat got your tongue, Rachel?
Rachel: Oh my god, you're going to shove something in my mouth to shut me up? That is just like
Ragan: (mocking) Oh my god
Rachel: All you do is talk about season 10
Ragan: I like your pink hair extensions with your nastily dyed hair
Rachel: Thanks, thank you, I love it too, actually. And you know what else I love?
Ragan: What, the pimples on your chin?
Rachel: Yeah, I do love those too, thanks and laughing
Ragan: And your parrot face?
Rachel: I look like a parrot?
Ragan: Yes
Rachel: Okay
Ragan: You look like a nasty red parrot from hell
Rachel laughs
Ragan mocks her laugh: It's my fake laughing!
Rachel: I'm actually really laughing because this is really hilarious
Ragan: Then why don't you get out of my face? If you don't like me and I don't like you, go someplace in this house where someone actually likes you -- by yourself.
Rachel: Oh but you said nobody likes me?
Ragan: Yeah, nope.
Rachel: Nobody?
Ragan: Nope!
Rachel: Not a single person?
Ragan: Not a single person in this house likes you!
Rachel: And nobody in America either, right?
Ragan: Probably not!
Rachel: Probably not. Because I'm a nasty, disgusting, vile person
Ragan: Absolutely!
Rachel: What do you think you are, Ragan?
Ragan: I think I'm a nice person with friends in this house
Rachel: Who is your friend?? Princess Britney is your fucking friend?
Ragan: Yep
Rachel: Oh, because she was my friend for a week too Ragan. She was my friend week two and week four
Ragan: Every person in this house is my friend, Rachel
Rachel: Nobody in this house is your real friend, Ragan. Nobody likes you in real life
Ragan: Really?
Rachel: Ragan, come on. This is a game. If this is your gameplay, you really suck at it.
Ragan: Rachel, you are out of the house last week, the LAST person I'm going to take advice from is you
Rachel: And I'm back!
Ragan: For twenty-four hours. You're here for a limited time because your boyfriend did a Pandora's Box and unleashed something horrible in the house (pointing to Rachel) -- WAKE UP!!
Rachel laughs
Ragan mocks her laugh
Ragan: Your days of bullying me are over. You're a conniving, evil little witch and you got exactly what was coming to you. Out of anybody in this house, I was the one person who was in your corner
Rachel: When Ragan? When you were crying and I came to comfort you?
Ragan: When you were crying and I came to comfort you?
Rachel: When you needed a friend and I was there for you?
Ragan: You're absolutely disgusting (Ragan gets up off the workout bench) Talking to you is like talking to the most vile devil child in the world, and I'm done with it, baby, because I'm done with you. Because your game in this house is OVER.
Rachel: Oooh! You're so intimidating and scary
Ragan: Oh, you are. Your face is. Your parrot face with your big ugly zits on your chin
Ragan is walking towards the door and Rachel is following him
Rachel: Why don't you try and insult me a little more, Ragan?
Ragan: Why don't you try and insult me? Why don't you talk about me being gay and me being a bitch and me doing all of these other things here
Rachel: Because I love gay people and you suck at it!
Ragan: Yes, you clearly love gay people!
Rachel: I do, Ragan, and you suck at it.. because, you're not even...
Ragan: Because, uhhh! uhh!
Ragan: If you're going to try to come at me, Rachel, do it a little bit quicker. In a battle of wits, this is like me being an Olympic runner and you being a toddler
Rachel: Oh my god
Ragan: (mocking) Oh my god!
Rachel: What are you, a fucking theater major?! Talk about the theatrics Ragan, look in the mirror!
Ragan sits down and mocks Rachel at the POV: Ragan, please take the veto.. take the veto! Please!
Ragan: Everything you've done in here has been such a vile pathetic.. look at me! look at me! look at me!
Ragan: Rachel, one day you will realize, you will get a modicum of class and you will realize that the attention you want is not because of negative behavior, but instead treating people with decency and respect
Ragan: And if you think you're going to go through life running over people and treating them the way that you've treated everybody in this house, you have another thing coming! The minute you get out of that jury house, I guarantee you're going to take a long, hard look at yourself, because everybody is going to treat you the same way that you've treated everybody in this house. You will get what is coming to you. Believe me!
Ragan: You are going to be so disgusted with yourself when you watch these episodes, so disgusted with yourself, as I am certain America is disgusted with you.
Ragan: I have never watched ONE person leave this house without a single person high-fiving them. How many people high-fived you, Rachel? Done counting already?! Take it as a tip and learn from it!

Ragan turns and opens the sliding glass door and slams it behind himself.

Rachel stands there like a statue for almost a full minute in the back yard.
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The EPIC Rachel/Ragan fight. Wow...he must not care about her jury vote.



The best part for me? Rachel standing there for a full minute after being OWNED and Britney just continuing to play pool with herself like nothing happened. LMAO!
 
I'm such a fool. I completely forgot I had BBAD! I missed the fight, but I see Enzo huffing and puffing over Britney.
 
We are now two months and 22 pages into this thread, and so far there have been no chiding comments from the moderators or threats to lock the discussion. I think this may be a new record.
 
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