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The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

There hasn't been a Morph-o-Matic competition either. I suppose the producers were getting sick of doing that. It does make for a slightly more interesting game, I guess.
 
Re: Any attorneys out there?

Eviction night and most of the drama happens in the sequester house. Not surprised one bit.

And Hayden earned some points in my book with the nice comments towards Ragan in his exit speech. I can almost overlook the fish lips now.
 
Re: Any attorneys out there?

Lostlover said:
Eviction night and most of the drama happens in the sequester house. Not surprised one bit.

And Hayden earned some points in my book with the nice comments towards Ragan in his exit speech. I can almost overlook the fish lips now.
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Hayden always struck me as the most likable of the Brigade.
 
Altlover85 just admit that u like hayden becoz of his hotbod, way better than the balding meow meow the not so in shape self proclaim beast - lane.:gogirl:
 
Of the remaining hgs I like Hayden the best because he is cool and laid back and not mean spirited. I am not rooting for Britney because she is just a mean bitch. I am not rooting for Lane because he is a cruel bastard, and his fun is more important than a girl's horror at being broken in on while she is getting laid and the guy has to keep pumping for 8 seconds to win the bet, and he shoots things in the night just because he sees their eyes. Enzo is a waste of time and space.
 
On the 15th, Survivor premieres at 8PM followed by the Big Brother final from 9-11PM

I don't remember the final being two hours. Mother of God, besides the questions and the jury vote for the winner, what are they gonna show out of this season for two hours?? ](*,)

Showtime AD highlights, Britney chewing her nails, sleeping, eating, and playing pool: the extended director's cut.

I'm guessing NOTHING will happen until about 10:30?
 
altlover85 said:
Hayden always struck me as the most likable of the Brigade.
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joesman said:
Of the remaining hgs I like Hayden the best because he is cool and laid back and not mean spirited.
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ITA with both of you. Hayden is by far the best person left in the Brigade. Initially I thought he'd be another dumb sexist jock on this show, and I'd therefore despise him, but he's proven himself to be a laid-back, genuinely nice guy who has played the game extremely well. I wanted to like Lane but his predilection for rape jokes (and the implication that they're not just jokes) and shooting animals in the middle of the night has soured me on him. Enzo is a harmless but annoying stereotype, and Matt of course is a self-aggrandizing asshole (and possibly a sociopath). What a group!

How could Hayden NOT be the one you root for against the Redneck, the Meow Meow and the Tool?
 
OMG I hate Ragan more than any other housemate ever. During his CBS interview that horrible homosexual actually said being "tackled" by Enzo reminded him of getting picked on in high school. His dumb ass was the won pushing Enzo and trying to box him out. And how dare that bitch assume he would have won. The saddest part is he's 34 years old.

I want Enzo to win at this point. I couldnt stand him in the beginning but of the guys left he's my favorite. I thought his dancing was cute during that Pandora's box punishment and he seems like a real person. I ignore they meow meow. It's so silly anyway. And of the brigade guys he never had a side deal and was always treated as expendable. I'd love for him to beat cocky Hayden and Lane.

Hayden is so fake and gives everyone those bullshit goodbye messages about love and light. Tellin Ragan he's a great role model for gays and shit. He's so false. It's a good tactic but so transparent.

Matt is just the worst thing ever. I had no idea he was telling Kathy he can relate to her having cancer. He literally was making sick. I wonder what Ragan will think of this exceptional human being when he gets to jury house.
 
Lane explaining to Hayden last night " If I win PoV and take Britney off, or if I win and take myself off, or if Britney wins and takes either one of us off, we will still have the say so in who leaves." So if Hayden or Enzo doesn't win PoV then Enzo will be going home, I think.
 
BB should look at Bachelor Pad and Jersey Shore and find some people who are attractive enough, stupid enough, rowdy enough, and horny enough to do almost anything on tv. Make it a more adult show and move it to nine or ten pm - but they won't do that because the ratings have been better than ever this year (WHO CAN BELIEVE THAT WITH THIS GROUP OF DULLARDS?).
 
aijalon18 said:
OMG I hate Ragan more than any other housemate ever. During his CBS interview that horrible homosexual actually said being "tackled" by Enzo reminded him of getting picked on in high school. His dumb ass was the won pushing Enzo and trying to box him out. And how dare that bitch assume he would have won. The saddest part is he's 34 years old.

I want Enzo to win at this point. I couldnt stand him in the beginning but of the guys left he's my favorite. I thought his dancing was cute during that Pandora's box punishment and he seems like a real person. I ignore they meow meow. It's so silly anyway. And of the brigade guys he never had a side deal and was always treated as expendable. I'd love for him to beat cocky Hayden and Lane.

Hayden is so fake and gives everyone those bullshit goodbye messages about love and light. Tellin Ragan he's a great role model for gays and shit. He's so false. It's a good tactic but so transparent.

Matt is just the worst thing ever. I had no idea he was telling Kathy he can relate to her having cancer. He literally was making sick. I wonder what Ragan will think of this exceptional human being when he gets to jury house.
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I was glad to see the anger at Matt wasn't just some chick thing. Like, "they're on their periods so that's why they're so sensitive." Brendon joined in on that and say there's a place Matt will be burning. So cool to see that!

I really don't hate anyone else left. They're all just bleh.
 
*****HAYDEN WON POV*****

Farewell Britney. It was fun while it lasted.
 
Silly Keesh...I mean Britney.

Are we really gonna have to watch the Three Stooges for a whole week? They should just skip the next week and give Hayden the half a mil already. It's a done deal
 
Well Britney is toast, and she has no one to blame but herself. At least she made it to F4, good for her. The second half of her seasonal game-play was all luck, and I knew it had to run out at some point. Fortunately for my entertainment level, there's only one more week left of this dull season so her eviction won't be as bad as Jen's eviction halfway through BB8, which left me with absolutely no one else to root for. The only person left for me to root for now is Hayden and fortunately, he's got the best chance of pulling it off. Kudos to him for winning both HOH and POV this week!

BB factoid: F4 HOH and F4 POV has only been won by the same person once before (BB9's Ryan, thereby keeping his nominations intact) and there has only been one other time where the original nominees at F4 stayed the same (BB5 when non-nominated Cowboy won the F4 POV). That means this is only the third time out of 9 seasons where one of the original nominees didn't win F4 POV. I thought Lane and Britney had a good shot in terms of precedent, but not good enough obviously.

Lane's only shot at an endgame that benefits him (i.e Britney in the F2 with him) is to convince Hayden to use the veto on him so he can vote out Enzo (the only other major threat for jury votes). However, Hayden would be stupid to take that deal (and he's not stupid, so he won't) since Enzo/Lane would be much easier to beat for Final HOH, than Britney/Lane.
 
I'd like to see a Lane vs. Enzo final. It would be the closest vote for who would win. I know everyone thinks Enzo is so bad at comps. But Lane hasnt been much better. He won 1 HOH but he hasnt one anything else. And Enzo one a veto. So Comp wise they are pretty even. Lane's only for sure vote is prolly Britney and maybe Ragan b/c he's a bitter little queen about Enzo.

It's possible.
 
Sgt Pepper said:
Well Britney is toast, and she has no one to blame but herself. At least she made it to F4, good for her. The second half of her seasonal game-play was all luck, and I knew it had to run out at some point. Fortunately for my entertainment level, there's only one more week left of this dull season so her eviction won't be as bad as Jen's eviction halfway through BB8, which left me with absolutely no one else to root for. The only person left for me to root for now is Hayden and fortunately, he's got the best chance of pulling it off. Kudos to him for winning both HOH and POV this week!

BB factoid: F4 HOH and F4 POV has only been won by the same person once before (BB9's Ryan, thereby keeping his nominations intact) and there has only been one other time where the original nominees at F4 stayed the same (BB5 when non-nominated Cowboy won the F4 POV). That means this is only the third time out of 9 seasons where one of the original nominees didn't win F4 POV. I thought Lane and Britney had a good shot in terms of precedent, but not good enough obviously.

Lane's only shot at an endgame that benefits him (i.e Britney in the F2 with him) is to convince Hayden to use the veto on him so he can vote out Enzo (the only other major threat for jury votes). However, Hayden would be stupid to take that deal (and he's not stupid, so he won't) since Enzo/Lane would be much easier to beat for Final HOH, than Britney/Lane.
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I had lost all interest to post in this thread anymore since double eviction night except for the fact that this is your 666th post. You bad boy. Don't ever post again!
 
^^ Hee. Thanks Kensei!

Also, THE BRIGADE JUST OUTED THEMSELVES TO BRITNEY!!!

At first she played it off like she knew, but then she totally broke down crying when she realized she had no shot at surviving this week (Hayden told her straight up, "I'm not using the veto") and she left the room in tears.

I think she's also upset because Lane kept this from her. Ironically though, he really was going to take her to the finals (because he believed she was his best chance to win the money) but unfortunately Lane didn't win POV, so she won't know that until this season is over and she sees Lane's DRs.
 
I have to say, I'm totally fascinated by the way Enzo is talking about this. He outed the Brigade to Britney and now he is sincerely telling Hayden (in front of everyone) that Hayden will win this game. He said -- in front of everyone, mind you -- that he and Lane are playing for 2nd place and that Hayden has to win the Final HOH because no one else will take him. He also said all Hayden has to do is win 2 out of 3 comps and he wins $500,000.

That's a pretty good summary of the state of things, and I'm kind of impressed with Enzo's unwillingness to bullshit anymore.

Of course...he could be doing this to convince Hayden (who is likely to win Final HOH) to take him to the finals.
 
aijalon18 said:
I'd like to see a Lane vs. Enzo final. It would be the closest vote for who would win. I know everyone thinks Enzo is so bad at comps. But Lane hasnt been much better. He won 1 HOH but he hasnt one anything else. And Enzo one a veto. So Comp wise they are pretty even. Lane's only for sure vote is prolly Britney and maybe Ragan b/c he's a bitter little queen about Enzo.

It's possible.
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Comps don't mean shit for jury votes. Will never won a single comp and won the game, Jun won less comps than Allison and still won the game, Maggie won less comps than Ivette and still won the game, Dick won less comps than Daniele and still won the game, Adam won less comps than Ryan and still won the game. The jury will not be sitting there all, "Hmm, Enzo won this one, but Lane won this other one." Juries vote with their hearts, not their heads (and certainly not with their calculators). And people who say they are voting for the best competitor are basically just using that to justify voting for who they like more.

Enzo would win against Lane EASILY even if Lane won two more comps and Enzo had won zero. And yes, Enzo vs Hayden would be interesting; I still think Hayden would win (though I wouldn't be shocked if Enzo won) not
because he's won more comps, but because he has ingratiated himself with people just as much as Enzo has entertained people. They both represent the two ways to win jury votes (the ingratiator and the entertainer) so it would be interesting to see them against each other. Unfortunately, because neither of them is stupid, that isn't likely to happen. Lane is all but guaranteed a spot in the F2 because both Hayden and Enzo are sure to take him to the finals if they win HOH. And they'd both win against him easily.
 
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