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The Secret-Gender Baby

My pecker is my hobby and I'm proud of it.:D
 
This seems like an attention whore stunt to me.. But maybe I'm just cynical.
 
You know what is astonishing?

Everyone who is shocked by these parents is saying "Think of Society! What about Society?"

Well, my princesses, you and I are society.

Why would you and I act like assholes in the way we'd treat this kid?
 
Are you kidding me? Their parents are allowing them more freedom than any other kid out there. If he/she wants to dress in pink all the time, he/she can. If they want blue instead, fine.

If they want to play with dolls, they can. If they want to play with trucks, they can. They're free from the rules of society. I really love this couple for what they're doing.



A "freak of nature"? Wow. Nice one, sixthson. :##: You obviously have a high opinion of the transgendered community, don't you?

A distinction of our genders is just that: a distinction of our genders. It's our individuality that is wonderful and worthy of celebration.

What if the kid decides it wants to be an alien from Mars? Is that OK with you?

The parents might as well abandon the child.

The kid will grow up messed up, confused, and an object of ridicule.
 
You know what is astonishing?

Everyone who is shocked by these parents is saying "Think of Society! What about Society?"

Well, my princesses, you and I are society.

Why would you and I act like assholes in the way we'd treat this kid?

Thank you!
 
You know what is astonishing?

Everyone who is shocked by these parents is saying "Think of Society! What about Society?"

Well, my princesses, you and I are society.

Why would you and I act like assholes in the way we'd treat this kid?

No, you and I are not society. You and I are a tiny, miniscule, itty-bitty part of society. The greater amount of people will not know how to react to a person who is unsure of their own gender, and children will be even more confused.

The point is this: this kid will be getting two radically different perspectives on gender identity. Actually, it's more like they'll be getting half-information and confusing images from the outside world, and their parents won't explain anything to them. Choosing pink over blue or preferring barbies is completely separate issue than KNOWING WHAT GENDER YOU ARE. People really don't care that much if a young boy is playing with dolls, but they will stare at an intentionally androgynous social experiment that's confused about who and what they are, because their parents wouldn't tell them.

A child without any gender identity will probably (in my opinion) have a developmental social handicap compared to other kids. It's like not ever talking to your kid so they can "choose whatever language they want!" but they just end up never learning how to talk.
 
Sorry but I have to agree this is kinda nutty.

You either have a penis or a vagina. Pretending otherwise is stupid.

Now if the child exhibits tendencies of the opposite gender the parents should understand and accept that. I fully support the right of people to choose their gender if they identify more with the opposite one, but that isn't something a young child should have to do before they are even aware of what gender they are biologically.

The child will not have any sort of normal childhood this way. Does he/she use the boys bathroom or the girls? Does he play on the boys team or the girls? etc.
 
Exactly.

The kid will find out and get to be who he/she is, not what society tells him/her to be.

We have evolved to the point we're at over billions of years and these people have decided that billions of years of development is... wrong? I'm not sure they're qualified to make that decision, I'm afraid.

Furthermore, currently 7 billion of us have developed to where we are at this exact moment in time based on these tried and tested principles. Sure, we have a few rotten apples in the bunch, but as a species we're doing okay. Do these people really think all 7 billion of us would have been better off living with this idea?

And when was the last time anyone did what society told him or her to do? We have female soldiers in combat on the front lines; we have stay-at-home dads raising kids. I'm not sure where this problem is which these people are trying to fix.

Well, my princesses, you and I are society.

Why would you and I act like assholes in the way we'd treat this kid?

Have you been around other humans in recent days? Kids are little shits. Probably because their parents are bigger shits, but still. This kid is going to be picked on. Would you have liked it if your parents did something deliberately outlandish to you when you were younger which caused you endless amounts of hassle in your social life? Of course not.

This kid will grow up, see guys, see girls, understand a difference and dress/act accordingly to what he or she wants to do. It's not that serious, bro.

Surely this is the pressure of society which the parents are trying to avoid. If the kid is observing all us other mindless oppressed automatons and using these as its models for what it wants to be, it's going to pick one or other of the genders and that is the same as being raised one or the other.

I don't think the intent was ever to hide anything from the child. It's to minimize the pressure that the outside world puts onto forcing their gender identity, until the kid has a chance to understand and do what feels right for him/herself.

Why do you (and the parents) have this idea that the outside world is raising this kid? The parents would have a far better level of success, I reckon, by telling the kid "you're a boy and this is what most boys do, but you don't have to do that if you don't want to." At least that way the kid gets an idea of what is the norm.

I'm all for stepping out and marching to the beat of your own drummer, but let the kid decide when to do that rather than not giving him a beat to learn to march to in the beginning.

They teach us all how to write at school, and they try to teach us the same "font", and yet at the end of the day everyone's handwriting is unique. So you see, pointless parents? It'll happen on its own. No fucking weirdo pseudo-hippie attention-whoring potentially dangerous child experimenting required.

-d-
 
Their other child is a boy of 5 years.They dress him like a girl and braid his hair. So the rule is: if its a boy make him into a girl (and presumably if its a girl keep him as a girl). These people are absolute fruitcakes.
 
What the hell are you even talking about?

This kid will grow up, see guys, see girls, understand a difference and dress/act accordingly to what he or she wants to do. It's not that serious, bro.

I don't think the intent was ever to hide anything from the child. It's to minimize the pressure that the outside world puts onto forcing their gender identity, until the kid has a chance to understand and do what feels right for him/herself.

Agreed! I'm stunned at the number of closed minded homos on this thread. More amusingly by single, never been married, much less bore and raised any children of their own homos declaring I'll will on the parents.
 
I don't see this as the parents hiding what gender is from the child...rather, they're trying to minimize external influences of gender conformity on their child.

Is this a bit overkill? Yeah, probably. These parents seem super supportive and open-minded...why not just let Storm know early and often that s/he can play with whatever toys he/she wants, like whatever colors he/she likes, etc. ??

Cutting out outside interaction or smothering out social norms seems rather counterproductive - eventually Storm will be in a situation where his/her parents aren't controlling the environment and who interacts with Storm. Why not just prepare the child and try to build Storm up with as much self confidence and self love as possible? If Storm ends up straying from gender norms, it will be up to Storm, not his/her parents, as to if he/she stands his/her ground or decides to conform. All they can do is support their child's decision.

It really pissed me off when I worked in a retail store and I'd notice, for example, a mom would drag her son away from the Barbie aisle because that was "the girl aisle." Way to give him a complex, bitch.

I liked Barbies growing up...not because I wanted to be a girl, but because they were the same size as my Power Ranger action figures and they worked great as them when they weren't in their Ranger costumes. Getting to change and fashion their outfits...well, yeah that was stereotypically gay ;), but what it really ended up being was me showing an interest in story telling. My parents let me play with the toys I wanted to play with, but I also knew that it wasn't the norm, and that I was better off not bringing my Barbies to the schoolyard, because there would be some boys that would definitely pick on me for it.

Point is, a parent's job is to, besides keep the kids alive and comfortable, prepare their children for life. Sheltering them from the inevitable will only hurt this process, and make teaching them harder later on.
 
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This is the character i was thinking of from Ab Fab, the strident self-opiniated American female who chooses a submissive rich husband
 
I know modern women like that who think they are being assertive. They're really just bossy and they seek out weak people to boss around.

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What I don't understand about this case is how an issue which should really be of interest to the family and school is being discussed around the world. Did the mother alert the international media?
 
Re: Parents keeds childs Gender a Secret

Why did they keed it a secret?
 
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