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The stereotypical Gay Man

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So I've read yet another thread this morning where someone tells us that he doesn't have the 'stereotypical' traits of a gay man.

That he's athletic. Masculine.

I've read so many recently about homos who love football and beer and wearing sloppy clothes and farting that I would like to announce for the gay congregation....these are actually now the stereotypical traits of the gay male and the most stereotypical trait of all is assuring everyone that they are not a stereotypical gay man...
 
So I've read yet another thread this morning where someone tells us that he doesn't have the 'stereotypical' traits of a gay man.

That he's athletic. Masculine.

I've read so many recently about homos who love football and beer and wearing sloppy clothes and farting that I would like to announce for the gay congregation....these are actually now the stereotypical traits of the gay male and the most stereotypical trait of all is assuring everyone that they are not a stereotypical gay man...


Agrees with bold.
What with the constant need to reassure themselves that they do not look what they are (gay) as if there was some kind of value in being perceived as someone they aren't... and who do they think they're fooling but themselves... pfft
How about stopping to stereotype gays into last century's cage of folles like behaviours and accepting being gay only means being attracted to someone of the same gender (which has nothing to do with liking musicals, sports, knowing how to cook or whatever things they believe make someone gay).
 
The problem is that those gays might indeed be the majority - but they are not the ones that get noticed by the public eye. Thus, they are not stereotypical.

The only thing that helps are high-profile gays that break the stereotype, like Neil Patrick Harris for example.
 
So I've read yet another thread this morning where someone tells us that he doesn't have the 'stereotypical' traits of a gay man.

That he's athletic. Masculine.

I've read so many recently about homos who love football and beer and wearing sloppy clothes and farting that I would like to announce for the gay congregation....these are actually now the stereotypical traits of the gay male and the most stereotypical trait of all is assuring everyone that they are not a stereotypical gay man...

I think your probably right. I bet the vast majority of gay guys are just average guys that just happen to be gay. I think what happens though is the minority of camp gay guys, the really loud queens (and I don't mean that offensively) might be in the minority numbers wise but as they make the most noise and stand out, they get the most attention and therefore the idea that most gay guys are femme and camp prevails.
 
The only thing that helps are high-profile gays that break the stereotype, like Neil Patrick Harris for example.

Is he what you'd call high-profile? I had to Google him as I'd no idea who he was. I honestly don't think I've ever seen anything he was in.
 
A friend recently told me about a book "Gay Men Don't Get Fat." Written by a self-described stereotypical gay male.

What's so funny is that the beginning of the book--trying to portray straight men as different--perfectly describes any number of gay bears.

Gays come in all shapes and sizes and interests. Even if you think you don't look or act like a stereotypical gay male, people can figure out you're sucking cock. So get over yourself.
 
I think your probably right. I bet the vast majority of gay guys are just average guys that just happen to be gay. I think what happens though is the minority of camp gay guys, the really loud queens (and I don't mean that offensively) might be in the minority numbers wise but as they make the most noise and stand out, they get the most attention and therefore the idea that most gay guys are femme and camp prevails.

This! So many of my friends have been questioning me over and over again about gays when I first told them I am gay. They are so confused. Not every gay guy have to fit into their ideal fabulous fashion diva or the girl's sassy best friend .
 
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The problem is that those gays might indeed be the majority - but they are not the ones that get noticed by the public eye. Thus, they are not stereotypical.

The only thing that helps are high-profile gays that break the stereotype, like Neil Patrick Harris for example.

This is how I feel as well.
 
There's something to be said for the spectrum of gay men that seems to be left out in these kinds of conversations. We, as a group of people and personalities, run the gamut from masculine to feminine. Neither side of this spectrum is right or wrong. We just ARE what we are--and if you ask me, that's commendable.

If you consider for a moment, the feminine gay men (often referred to as campy, flamers, queens), these men may have an effeminate voice, feminine mannerisms, feminine builds and faces. In a male dominated world, you can't hide these facts for too long. They're the first to be out in high school (or even middle school), the first to be out at work, the first to be called faggot. So these men were effectively forced to blaze the trail. Why do you think these are the stereotypes? Is it because these kinds of men are louder and more desperate for attention? No. These are the men that cannot and will not hide who they are.

More masculine men; the bulkier, the deeper voiced, the rougher faces aren't necessarily hiding who they are, but don't necessarily have to address the fact either--not like the feminine men have to. These men can slip in and out of situations without that nagging question in other people's minds, which may bring up a whole different list of problems they have to deal with that feminine men don't.

And here in comes the point I guess. It's often these masculine men that bring up the fact that they are so masculine. The term that's so common is "straight acting". The fact that we feel the need to address these aspects of ourselves is sad to me. Why not let our being, our presence, who we are--speak for ourselves?

I see beauty in this slew of men, masculine and feminine. And I know I can't reasonably expect other people to see what I see. But I hope at some point that our being gay is solely defined by the fact that we love those that are the same sex as us--and that we are able to acknowledge, both as a gay community and by society as a whole, that gay men are little pieces of this sweep--from blue to pink, and that no matter where one lands, they're worthy of respect.

This was a great post.

As to the bolded part-- the simple response is, society doesn't let us. Society thinks in two dimensional images, tropes and stereotypes. If you belong to group x and don't fit the stereotype there's an almost unspoken wonder or question or eyebrow raise among people for an explanation.
 
This was a great post.

As to the bolded part-- the simple response is, society doesn't let us. Society thinks in two dimensional images, tropes and stereotypes. If you belong to group x and don't fit the stereotype there's an almost unspoken wonder or question or eyebrow raise among people for an explanation.

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In fairness to some who work so hard to distance themselves, I truly don't think they have much hangup with society thinking they are physically intimate with males, but they are offended to be misunderstood to be drama queens, eccentric in other ways, and simply NOT who they are.

Well said (also JWiggy is spot on).

I believe society have problem accepting anything that doesn't fit certain stereotype, and that includes the gay community (unfortunately).
I feel there is a problem within the gay community to accept there are gays who have mainly "straight" interests.
Pushing these people aside do not help the gay cause, in my opinion.
 
Well said (also JWiggy is spot on).

I believe society have problem accepting anything that doesn't fit certain stereotype, and that includes the gay community (unfortunately).
I feel there is a problem within the gay community to accept there are gays who have mainly "straight" interests.
Pushing these people aside do not help the gay cause, in my opinion.

I feel there is a problem in finding some interests to be "straight" or "gay" when these terms refer to who you want to bed with ...
 
On EC, I don't mind the "I'm not stereotypically gay" comments from newbies - we've all been there, it seems. But I really get angry when they pull out the word "normal"...or even worse, "real".

Lex
 
All men and all women, regardless of sexuality, fart. And, everyone of us has some sloppy clothes to wear that we are so comfortable in. I think gays come in every stripe, just like heteros. It is that small issue of sexuality - which does not consume all that great percentage of time actually being done - in our lives (pushed to the forefront by the straights) that defines us TOTALLY, when we - just like they - are much more complex than just that.
 
People notice the ones that stand out from the crowd, and that's not a guy in jeans and T, that doesn't have a lisp. They notice the guy prancing down the street in meggings and has enough product in his hair to catch every fly for a mile around, and talks like a teen girl from the Valley with new braces. To each their own, but it catches me funny that when it's gay pride parade day the guy they trot out to try to tell the world not to stereotype gays because the news only shows only men wearing thongs and hardhats on the floats, is the guy wearing a gaudy Hawaiian shirt, puka shell necklace, an entire jar of hair wax, and sounds like he's trying to talk after he stuck his tongue to a frozen pole.
 
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