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The Taliban = Tea Party except they have "integrity"

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Recently one of the "veterans" of CE+P in one of his less lucid moments said (I'm paraphrasing) that comparing the taliban to the tea party was an INSULT to the taliban as they (the taliban) have INTEGRITY

you can't make this shit up - here's the link below

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/cur...0560-shame-gop-rep-joe-walsh.html#post8209764

well just read about the Taliban, those of immense "integrity" executing in public a woman - with a mob cheering him on - seems that two Taliban men - men of immense "integrity" - had a dispute over her

Women in Afghanistan don't have it so good - despite the integrity of the Taliban - when they're not being executed .......a study says that 9 out ot 10 women suffer physical, sexual or psychological violence or forced marriage at least once in their lifetimes - this from Human Rights Watch who said it in its 2012 annual report.

Hyperbole is a common thing on CE+P - Nazis = Republican, etc. - the miscreants who make those comparisons should step back and really consider what they're suggesting - before they minimize REAL horror for no reason other to get a short term chubby and make their like-minded "friends" giggle

Manhunt under way for Taliban who shot woman in public execution amid cheers - CNN.com
 
being quoted is a bitch isn't it

Seems like it's common practice here on JUB by a handful of type first think second types who make absurd equivalents

not a lot of current stories about Nazis but those Taliban seem to make news - bad news

good article about the Taliban - just thought I'd share and see if other JUBBERs think that The Tea Party comparison isn't outrageous despite being "good fun" ;)
 
Chance, you know I adore you, but come on...what is this?

You really want a response? Here's MY response:

Get over it and learn to separate emotional connotations from what is actually being compared. The poster (rightly or wrongly) is comparing the INTEGRITY (commitment to principles) of one group (as HEINOUS as they may be, that is one committed group of nutbags and murderers) to the shifting sands on which the other group stands. Is he comparing the principles of the tea party to the principles of the taliban? You can ask him to get your answer but I don't think so.

This is a continuation of the republican = nazis equivalency you THOUGHT people were making and that you won't let go. I think I've said it before but it bears repeating. You're wrong about the comparison. The other poster was NOT comparing Republicans to Nazis, he was comparing GAY Republicans to the JEWS who voted for the Nazis, which is entirely different. It has fuck all to do with the eventual horrors of the final solution and the evil connotations of the Nazis themselves and everything to do with throwing your weight behind a party that, even in 1933, made its intentions to make Jews second class citizens exceedingly well known. They spelled out their proposed intentions and there were still Jews who, I guess, were "fiscal nazis" (if you will) who threw their support behind them (they thought of themselves as Germans first and Jews second, which only works if the people oppressing you feel the same way.)

You can disagree with the posters on the merits of their comparisons but you need to actually argue the comparisons and not some emotional simplification.

End of sermon. I've said my piece.
 
^ hmmmm

Arguing against Taliban = tea party need not be done

And those who make those comparisons are fucked

That's the point

But just for shits and giggles I posted a lovely video showing what the Taliban prides itself on

I don't think there's an equivalent video with The Tea party

But u r luv-ly nonetheless
 
There is very little separating commonplace slogans motivating "tea party" extremists from commonplace slogans motivating taliban extremists. The difference was, the taliban acquired power, and the "tea partiers" with any luck, will never have it.
 
^ thanks for making my point

That people will make any comparison that fits their narrative regardless of the absurdity

In this case with "slogan" blather vs. real actions being referenced
 
Like say comparing Obama to a hitman... claiming American news anchors are on the hit list...


Here let me kick over your high horse sweety.
 
^ Lacking humor is not sexy

You're equating Taliban = tea party with :08 of Liam as a goof suggests you need some shade
 
I do need some shade... it is fuckin hot here.

that aside I wonder why no one takes most post by the extreme sides in CE&P seriously?

Perhaps the lack of any genuine character in the assertions?
 
Yeah I guess only military guys have character
 
Just sayin... as a long time poster it makes me wonder why sometimes when you see the same endless yet pointless arguing.
 
^ That's more of a beer convo I imagine
 
So was there actually a point to this thread?
 
CowboyBob said:
baiting thread.
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Bob -- It's calling you out on your beliefs.

I do have trouble believing that you really think this way -- if you do ....

Chance, thanks for calling him out. Most of the time I have no idea how to respond to the comments he makes -- usually try to just ignore them as they become more unbalanced.
 
Okay, seriously, are we trying to contend that the tea partyists have earned a seat at the grown-up table of reasoned discourse and sound policy options?
 
bankside said:
Okay, seriously, are we trying to contend that the tea partyists have earned a seat at the grown-up table of reasoned discourse and sound policy options?
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No

We're trying to showcase the difference between political differences and murderers
 
rareboy said:
So was there actually a point to this thread?
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Just to show you and others what the Taliban does

From a comparison made it seemed appropriate

Seems many of u get ur rocks off comparing things that need not be compared

So I figured a video example might shed some light on the absence of comparability

In your case I'll take that as a no
 
chance1 said:
No

We're trying to showcase the difference between political differences and murderers
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i don't think it is clear that, if ever in office, tea party policies would be much different from taliban policies, or any more successful.

it doesn't seem far-fetched to imagine anti-blasphemy laws, restrictive actions against women, a devaluing of knowledge and education, and a crazy adventurist militarised foreign policy.

Again, "political differences" implies reasonable disagreements amongst reasonable people. The tea-partyists I've seen on TV seemed somewhat unhinged, and assertively incoherent. A powder-keg if you will. They're bonkers like the taliban are bonkers. They're self-assured like the taliban are self-assured. They have the crazy conspiracy theories like the taliban do, and more importantly, they're the sort of people who don't recognize a sitting head of state as being a legitimate debating partner because he was born in the wrong country (or worships the wrong imam) etc. The fact that the tea party came out of the gate with a huge contingent of its members using their insane rhetoric to delegtimize the head of state, instead of trying to beat him in an open debate, is in itself highly indicative,

If the comparison is in any way hyperbolic, it is only wrong in degree, and not in kind.


(to remain strictly on topic for a moment, I should mention that I disagree with the idea that either the taliban or the tea party have integrity.)
 
bankside said:
i don't think it is clear that, if ever in office, tea party policies would be much different from taliban policies, or any more successful.

it doesn't seem far-fetched to imagine anti-blasphemy laws, restrictive actions against women, a devaluing of knowledge and education, and a crazy adventurist militarised foreign policy.

Again, "political differences" implies reasonable disagreements amongst reasonable people. The tea-partyists I've seen on TV seemed somewhat unhinged, and assertively incoherent. A powder-keg if you will. They're bonkers like the taliban are bonkers. They're self-assured like the taliban are self-assured. They have the crazy conspiracy theories like the taliban do, and more importantly, they're the sort of people who don't recognize a sitting head of state as being a legitimate debating partner because he was born in the wrong country (or worships the wrong imam) etc. The fact that the tea party came out of the gate with a huge contingent of its members using their insane rhetoric to delegtimize the head of state, instead of trying to beat him in an open debate, is in itself highly indicative,

If the comparison is in any way hyperbolic, it is only wrong in degree, and not in kind.


(to remain strictly on topic for a moment, I should mention that I disagree with the idea that either the taliban or the tea party have integrity.)
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baby steps is the glass 1/2 full approach ;)
 
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