Oh get over yourself. It was a harmless joke.
It's funny that you say the US is doomed according to ignorant masses, but you seem to be a diehard ignorant democrat. The party issues something and you start babbling and nodding your head like another mindless sheep American. Yes, the very kind that doom this country.
As of right now, the bill isn't going to work. It's had too much influence put onto it by the healthcare industry, lobbyists etc.
Don't get me wrong, we need healthcare, but I think we should take a little more time and care and make sure it is done CORRECTLY. Otherwise, will be reforming the health care entirely within another decade.
And where do you get the nerve to say that the Massachusetts voters were acting out of selfish spite? Maybe they were concerned by the economic ramifications of this bill. Maybe they were frustrated with the bill because of the amount of money its going to be funneling towards the private industry.
To quote you "every insured person who is opposed to uninsured people being covered should have their insurance revoked immediately." Well, guess what? "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind."
And what about small business owners who are now legally required to fund a health care option for their employees? Why is their responsibility to provide for everyone- especially when most of these businesses have been providing liability and workmans comp- the employees are covered while they are at work, if they can't manage to find health insurance elsewhere, why does this fall to the business owners? Shouldn't the industry be expected to subsidize some of this, as they'll be raking in all the profits.
And, if you've forgotten, we're still in an economic slump. So small businesses, which were already struggling fiscally, are going to face the next few years with an extra financial burden.
Yes. I'm thankful that this bill is being delayed. It's for the greater good in the long run.
RE: "Oh get over yourself. It was a harmless joke."
Oh get over yourself. It was a harmless
response to your [STRIKE]callous[/STRIKE] "harmless" joke.
RE: "you seem to be a diehard ignorant democrat. The party issues something and you start babbling and nodding your head like another mindless sheep American"
That's so hilarious I forgot to laugh. You obviously haven't seen my FAQ on the corrupt heath care reform bill:
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=293455
Here's some excerpts from it:
"As corruption is so deeply entrenched in our political system, the Washington puppets are willing to take any risks to give the special interest groups what they want. After all, that's who finances their re-election campaigns and provides them with high-paying jobs when they leave office.
That's the main reason Obama caved in to all the demands of the Democrats, etc., because he's obviously fully cognizant of how the corrupt legislative process works."
"If you could see speech bubbles above their heads, they'd all say the same thing, "Until we get everything we want, the uninsured suckers who voted us into office will just have to keep dying."
And you evidently didn't see this comment either:
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5782541&postcount=36
Here's some excerpts from it:
"Generally speaking, the U.S. doesn't have a legitimate government. Instead, it's controlled by two powerful organized crime families called the Republicans and Democrats, who are puppets for special interest groups. Although they've "legalized" the crimes they commit, the sociopathic members are no different than any other organized crime family, in that they have no qualms about treating people in an inhumane manner."
"And while they sit around making corrupt backroom deals to get their pimps everything they want, a planeload of approximately 123 Americans is crashing into cemeteries every day as a result of being unable to afford medical treatment. And who kills people for financial gain other than organized crime families?"
RE: "As of right now, the bill isn't going to work. It's had too much influence put onto it by the healthcare industry, lobbyists etc."
Hahaha, no offense, but don't you think it's extremely naive to expect a corruption free bill from one of the most corrupt governments in the world?
As I stated in my FAQ,
"Something bad" is the only thing our elected officials are capable of giving us, period."
RE: "Don't get me wrong, we need healthcare, but I think we should take a little more time and care and make sure it is done CORRECTLY."
As I also stated in my FAQ,
"The bottom line is that the American public will either get one of the most corrupt pieces of legislation that's ever been passed, or nothing at all."
In other words, the bill can only get WORSE, especially if the Republicans get their greedy fingers in the pie and add another 10,000 pages of rip-off clauses to it. This is the exact same thing the "real" mafia would do,
because they know they've got the threat of death to pressure us with. "Listen up suckers, we've got a deal you can't refuse. You either accept what we give you, or 3,750 of your uninsured friends and relatives will continue to die
every month -- and you could be next! All it takes is for you to be laid off and lose your current insurance."
RE: "Maybe they were concerned by the economic ramifications of this bill. Maybe they were frustrated with the bill because of the amount of money its going to be funneling towards the private industry."
I'm sure they
were concerned about those issues, as everyone else is. But as I stated in post #21 in this thread, "
my point is that if Massachusetts didn't already have mandatory health insurance, the outcome of the election would have been much different, no matter how much better the Republicans campaign was. Meaning that the health care needs of the MA voters have been taken care of, thus they weren't cutting their own noses off by voting for Brown."
What I'm saying here is that most people look out for their own selfish interests first. So if the majority of MA voters had been uninsured, they would have elected
any idiot Democrat to avoid having a Republican sabotage health care reform.
This is apparently the cost of living in a corrupt democracy, extremely selfish people who have insurance are allowed to sentence 123 uninsured people to die slow, painful deaths each day.
RE: "And what about small business owners who are now legally required to fund a health care option for their employees? Why is their responsibility to provide for everyone- especially when most of these businesses have been providing liability and workmans comp- the employees are covered while they are at work, if they can't manage to find health insurance elsewhere, why does this fall to the business owners? Shouldn't the industry be expected to subsidize some of this, as they'll be raking in all the profits.
And, if you've forgotten, we're still in an economic slump. So small businesses, which were already struggling fiscally, are going to face the next few years with an extra financial burden."
I agree with you 100%, the bill is extremely unfair and corrupt, but that's all you're going to get from an extremely corrupt government that's controlled by special interest groups. Wake up and smell the bullshit. This is the land of the free, where you're free to legally bribe the corrupt "powers that be."
RE: "Yes. I'm thankful that this bill is being delayed. It's for the greater good in the long run"
This brings me back to the original question I asked you. How would you feel if you were diagnosed with cancer after being laid off, and you had no insurance to pay for treatment? Would you want to give a bunch of thieving sociopaths several more years to see if their puppet masters would allow them to make the bill less corrupt? Or would you be willing to accept
anything that would enable you to have your cancer treated in the early stages, before it becomes terminal? If it's the latter, then
how can you insist on 123 other people dying each day when you're not willing to do it yourself?
