The US goes to War

[rareboy]

“We will have Greenland one way or the other.”
~ Donald Trump

"If you take it, we take every single base of the Americans from Aviano to Ramstein, from Romania, to all the other military bases will be confiscated, and you will lose it, and the whole position of American power since World War II, if you take Greenland, you have to leave. And we can defend ourselves very well, and we will do that without the U.S. nuclear shield, without the U.S. troops in Europe, without the American bases. We will simply run the spaces ourselves, and we will run your boys home into Chicago and Ohio. And goodbye.”
~ Gunther Fehlinger, Secretary General, Central Eastern Europe Business Council

“What we have here is a failure to communicate.”
~ Strother Martin

 

[rareboy]

On a personal note today, because of the US theft of Venezuala and the ongoing threats to Greenland and Canada, I have had my will revised to exclude all my beloved US organizations.

As long as the US seizes and steals territory from other countries, even though I know these worthy institutions need support...no. Nothing.

And I have left instructions for my US beneficiaries to understand why.

It may not be much...maybe .5 mil USD+/-, but we are in the end game. I am afraid that we could end up silent and complicit in the US rape of the hemisphere.

Until the US relinquishes any territories or resources stolen since 2025, not a dollar of our money into the US.

 

[rareboy]

"For those wondering, felon and Hitler enthusiast Trump declaring himself "acting president of Venezuela" is flagrantly illegal and a violation of Venezuela's sovereignty and independence.

It's also gross imperialism that threatens global security."

For fuck's sakes, make it stop.

 

[Norri]

And under the pretext of protecting Iranian protestors,

Ain’t it grand that Trump has finally found protesters who he wants to protect instead of shooting.

 

[rareboy]

The US is not reducing the temperature on seizing Greenland.

So at this point, most of all the NATO countries except the US will be protecting Greenland from the US.

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[NotHardUp1]

Reuters published polls and it is shocking how many republicans support taking Greenland. A teenager could refute Trump's lie about it being vulnerable to China or Russia. It is under NATO so already protected.

 

[rareboy]

^ Why are you surprised?

I suspect that you will also find a larger number of Independents and Dems in support of this than you would expect as well.

The numbers will decrease if it is taken by force and if the media would start focusing on what the economic devastation that could occur as the western democratic countries turn on the US, I suspect that
the balance would shift even more.

 

[Norri]

Reuters published polls and it is shocking how many republicans support taking Greenland. A teenager could refute Trump's lie about it being vulnerable to China or Russia. It is under NATO so already protected.

That Reuters poll found 20% of republicans support taking Greenland, given my opinion of republicans I don’t find that shocking……not even surprising.

 

[KaraBulut]

That Reuters poll found 20% of republicans support taking Greenland, given my opinion of republicans I don’t find that shocking……not even surprising.

What they're not telling us is that the population of people who identify as "Republican" or "Democrat" has been shrinking.

New High of 45% in U.S. Identify as Political Independents

A new high of 45% of U.S. adults identified as political independents in 2025.

news.gallup.com

 

[rareboy]

It is why I recommend paying attention to how many Independents may be thinking like Republicans in any survey now.

Although I can't see many centrist or even Libertarian independents favouring war to obtain Greenland.

 

[rareboy]

When we think of the devastation likely with a US invasion and seizure of Greenland, the following are possible or likely events that could seriously
damage the US:

- A declaration of war between NATO members and the US.
- A declaration of war powers and seizure of all federal government by TrumpCo.
- The immediate ejection of US from NATO and its bases in NATO countries
- Possible attacks on other NATO allies supporting Denmark widening the actual fighting
- Invasion by Russia of Baltic countries like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and of course Ukraine
- The trigger pulled for all NATO and aligned members to dump US treasuries, resulting in the US bond rates skyrocketing
- US dumping bonds of NATO countries and attempting to destroy any non US linked currencies
- The collapse of US financial markets and of course, international markets
- Wild global inflation
- TrumpCo. just printing off bales of money.
- Termination of all trade agreements between Western nations and the US.
- Expulsion of US diplomats and officials from many NATO countries and allies.
- Trump defaulting on US debt
- Limited nuclear attacks

As for the last one, I beleive that the US will not hesitate for more than a moment or two to threaten to despoil Greenland with strategic nuclear strikes unless Denmark agrees to 'sell' the island to the US.

 

[Araucaria]

In the last couple of days I found myself confronting a disquieting thought: Could the actions of the Trump administration lead to attacks on the United States? I ran a number of scenarios through my head of how that might happen. I won't discuss any of those since they're all highly speculative, and should anything like that happen, it will likely be under entirely different conditions from what I imagine.

But this made me aware that I have been living under a presumption of safety. That is, that I had been believing that the United States, within its borders, was safe from attack, and that I personally did not have to worry about facing the consequences of conflict. I had not realized I was living under this presumption until I found myself questioning it. Needless to say, I almost felt ill when this thought hit me.

 

[KaraBulut]

In the last couple of days I found myself confronting a disquieting thought: Could the actions of the Trump administration lead to attacks on the United States?

You're assuming we're not already under attack. We are and have been for some time.

But it's not the attacks you are thinking about, probably. The United States is very dependent upon electricity and telecommunications. Our hospitals are very vulnerable to cyberattacks and ransomware. We have massive data centers that are in uninhabited areas and have little or no staff, much less protection from either physical or cyberattacks.

 

[Norri]

As for the last one, I beleive that the US will not hesitate for more than a moment or two to threaten to despoil Greenland with strategic nuclear strikes unless Denmark agrees to 'sell' the island to the US.

Seriously? If the US wanted to despoil Greenland I don’t think there would be any need to go nuclear as folks from Vietnam or Japan can certainly attest to.

In the last couple of days I found myself confronting a disquieting thought: Could the actions of the Trump administration lead to attacks on the United States? I ran a number of scenarios through my head of how that might happen. I won't discuss any of those since they're all highly speculative, and should anything like that happen, it will likely be under entirely different conditions from what I imagine.

But this made me aware that I have been living under a presumption of safety. That is, that I had been believing that the United States, within its borders, was safe from attack, and that I personally did not have to worry about facing the consequences of conflict. I had not realized I was living under this presumption until I found myself questioning it. Needless to say I almost felt ill when this thought hit me.

I can’t speak to your scenarios but unless someone has a death wish we currently are quite save. We’re big strong and, with Trump, scary. There may be some countries who have the desire to attack us but none has the capacity.

 

[rareboy]

Seriously? If the US wanted to despoil Greenland I don’t think there would be any need to go nuclear as folks from Vietnam or Japan can certainly attest to.

Who is to stop the US from threatening anything? What other threats other than a nuclear 'accident' could completely depopulate the island and leave only the resources behind.

Currently it is unaffordable to extract minerals and oil from Greenland and the Arctic. The broligarchs are longer term thinkers though.

And nihilists...if they can't have it, then they probably can wait. They don't have to worry because every one of them has their own private nuclear free zone island hideaway.

Musk is leaving his hell spawn all over the place to continue his evil empire and dreams of Mars.

 

[NotHardUp1]

That Reuters poll found 20% of republicans support taking Greenland, given my opinion of republicans I don’t find that shocking……not even surprising.

Look again. That was just the ones admitting to supporting. There was a second amount either refusing to answer or answering that they didn't know. A lot of them are cowardly about being counted, OR intentionally do so to keep surveys from accurately counting them.

If you combine the supporters and the don't know or skipping percentages, up to 86% of GOP support the effort to acquire Greenland, and up to 40% support doing it by force. Horrifying numbers.

 

[rareboy]

Meanwhile, NATO member exercises are starting in Greenland excluding the US as Denmark's allies show up under the leadership of the Danes.

So it is now on.

 

[KaraBulut]

Look again. That was just the ones admitting to supporting. There was a second amount either refusing to answer or answering that they didn't know. A lot of them are cowardly about being counted, OR intentionally do so to keep surveys from accurately counting them.

If you combine the supporters and the don't know or skipping percentages, up to 86% of GOP support the effort to acquire Greenland, and up to 40% support doing it by force. Horrifying numbers.

I suspect there's also a substantial number who said, "What is Greenland?" and picturing the Florida Keys, based upon the name.

 

[Norri]

Look again. That was just the ones admitting to supporting. There was a second amount either refusing to answer or answering that they didn't know. A lot of them are cowardly about being counted, OR intentionally do so to keep surveys from accurately counting them.

If you combine the supporters and the don't know or skipping percentages, up to 86% of GOP support the effort to acquire Greenland, and up to 40% support doing it by force. Horrifying numbers.

I am reading the poll, you are reading into it. I think things are bad and will probably get worse before it gets better…..if it gets better so I don’t feel the need to embellish.

 

[rareboy]

Why do you think it might get better?

That Congress might rein in TrumpCo.?

At the moment, most of the world only sees it as getting worse. The belligernence. The threats. The beating of war-drums.

Instead of seeing the media and oligarchs looking to lower the temperature and pulling the US back from the brink, they seem to be reinforcing the narrative for stealing other sovereign states and territory like they have done over and over and over again, getting the US public more and more aligned with the 'as-of-right' military campaigns to create an actual continental empire ruled by Washington.

If you are optimistic...what is the actual basis for your optimism?