The US goes to War

[Dominus]

Good news everyone, it is Taco Tuesday!

 

[rareboy]

But once again, Trump has chickened out (thankfully) and given another imaginary 2 week window in which he and his cabal can manipulate the markets and cash in on his ravings.

 

[rareboy]

 

[KaraBulut]

NY Times story about the "decision making process" on how Trump got us into the war.

In a nutshell, Netayahu made a presentation proposing an attack on Iran. The State Department said, "Not a good idea". The military said, "Israel does this all the time- they come up with harebrained, incomplete plans that they can't do by themselves. Not a good idea."

Trump went with Netayahu and didn't listen to this own advisors.

How Trump Took the U.S. to War With Iran

In a series of Situation Room meetings, President Trump weighed his instincts against the deep concerns of his vice president and a pessimistic intelligence assessment. Here’s the inside story of how he made the fateful decision.

www.nytimes.com

In a series of Situation Room meetings, President Trump weighed his instincts against the deep concerns of his vice president and a pessimistic intelligence assessment. Here’s the inside story of how he made the fateful decision.

The decision by President Trump to give the go-ahead to join Israel in attacking Iran was influenced by a presentation by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in February that led to a series of discussions inside the White House over the following days

 

[rareboy]

Netanyahu and Putin have their perfect Patsy and I think that both of them have Kompromat on Trump...as well as a cynical understanding of his deep psychological flaws that they can play like a cheap fiddle.

 

[rareboy]

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[KaraBulut]

Netanyahu and Putin have their perfect Patsy and I think that both of them have Kompromat on Trump...as well as a cynical understanding of his deep psychological flaws that they can play like a cheap fiddle.

The story in the Times made me think upon some elderly people that I've known who were caught up in scams by telemarketers or by some random guy who approached them in a Walmart. This goes beyond the "I believe Putin over US intelligence experts" of the first term. It's a wicked mix of a narcissist who believes that he is always right and someone in the fog of dementia.

And he has the nuclear codes. And even more troublesome, he doesn't have many people around him saying, "No".

 

[KaraBulut]

It's interesting that no one has defined what "open" means.

Does it mean that the Iranian military gets to be the bridge troll, exacting a bribe from any carrier that wishes to pass?

 

[KaraBulut]

Lie or hallucination?

Either Trump is lying or the 4 other living presidents are, about war on Iran | Fortune

Trump declined to name the former president who supposedly regretted not striking Iran, saying he didn't want to “embarrass him.”

fortune.com

Either Trump is lying or the 4 other living presidents are, about war on Iran

Twice on Monday, President Donald Trump said he’d wrangled a confession of sorts from an Oval Office predecessor who he said had expressed regret in a private conversation about not attacking Iran the way Trump has been doing for more than two weeks.

But there’s just a little problem: Representatives for the four living former presidents — three Democrats and one Republican — said none have been in touch with Trump recently.

 

[Norri]

NY Times story about the "decision making process" on how Trump got us into the war.

In a nutshell, Netayahu made a presentation proposing an attack on Iran. The State Department said, "Not a good idea". The military said, "Israel does this all the time- they come up with harebrained, incomplete plans that they can't do it by themselves. Not a good idea."

Trump went with Netayahu and didn't listen to this own advisors.

How Trump Took the U.S. to War With Iran

In a series of Situation Room meetings, President Trump weighed his instincts against the deep concerns of his vice president and a pessimistic intelligence assessment. Here’s the inside story of how he made the fateful decision.

www.nytimes.com

In the times article the intelligence community broke down Netanyahu’s pitch into four parts. First kill the leadership, two prevent Iran’s ability to project power, three wait for the uprising and four regime change. When told only the first two were likely to be successful Trump was fine with that so all this trouble is over killing a leader who was quickly replaced and a missile program that recently has only been used in response to missiles heading their way. Not much of a payoff in my opinion. Further Trump came to believe that Iran would collapse so fast that they wouldn’t have time to close the straight.
Every assumption and decision was wrong. And Netanyahu should never have been in that room with American political and military leadership. For Trump it’s completely inappropriate for him to be there pitching war and for Netanyahu he should not have even wanted to be there as in plays directly in to the historical view of Jews as pulling the strings and running the world.
Lately the more Bibi does the more antisemitism is risings in the world.

 

[rareboy]

Uh Oh...TrumpCo. not happy with CNN...

Donald Trump launches investigation into CNN over Iran ceasefire

It was not immediately clear to which report Trump was referring.

www.newsweek.com

 

[KaraBulut]

...Lately the more Bibi does the more antisemitism is risings in the world.

It's even deeper than that.

When the UN tries to do something about Israel, the US always interferes. When that happens, no one accuses those countries in the UN of condemning Israel solely because they were Jewish or because they practiced Judaism.

With what they did in Gaza and what they are doing daily in Lebanon, what they are doing in the West Bank and how they suckered Dementia Donald into a war with Iran, the lines are increasingly blurred between disgust with the "Jewish State", the "Israeli government" and the Jews themselves. Anti-semitism has always been there but Netanyahu has added massive amounts of fuel to that flame. Netayahu has managed to create both a generation of Palestinian sympathizers and a new generation of anti-Israel terrorists.

 

[KaraBulut]

The fire bucket analogy is perfect.

 

[fallsguy]

 

[rareboy]

 

[rareboy]

Well, well, well.

After a dressing down in January, the US born Pope of the Catholic Church made his position abundantly clear over the threats by TrumpCo. against Iranian civilians...thereby leading to someone
leaking the info about the threats made to the Pope at the meeting with TrumpCo.

"Quite apart from the utter insolence of Pentagon officials lecturing the Pope—who, like it or not, is a de facto monarch with 1.4 billion subjects worldwide, not a sleazy politician who will be gone in four years—the notion of threatening him for rebuking war crimes, or championing the victims of war, is either something very new, or something that ought to have died out centuries ago."

The Pentagon and Trump would be well reminded that 77 million Catholics are US Americans...and as the author points out...is the spiritual and moral Pontifex Maximus for 1.4 Billion Catholics worldwide.

I think Trump originally thought he would be getting a US Pope cheerleader and not a man who has now spoken out against the inhumane treatment of immigrants in the US by this regime, but also now the war.

Medieval times: did Trump's ersatz Capetian presidency just threaten Pope Leo XIV for daring to criticize the U.S. war in Iran?

Invoking the 1303 arrest, imprisonment and torture of Pope Boniface for defying King Philippe IV of France, Pentagon officials warn the Holy See that Pope Leo better choose his side carefully.

rowem.substack.com

 

[NotHardUp1]

Well, well, well.

After a dressing down in January, the US born Pope of the Catholic Church made his position abundantly clear over the threats by TrumpCo. against Iranian civilians...thereby leading to someone
leaking the info about the threats made to the Pope at the meeting with TrumpCo.



The Pentagon and Trump would be well reminded that 77 million Catholics are US Americans...and as the author points out...is the spiritual and moral Pontifex Maximus for 1.4 Billion Catholics worldwide.

I think Trump originally thought he would be getting a US Pope cheerleader and not a man who has now spoken out against the inhumane treatment of immigrants in the US by this regime, but also now the war.

Medieval times: did Trump's ersatz Capetian presidency just threaten Pope Leo XIV for daring to criticize the U.S. war in Iran?

Invoking the 1303 arrest, imprisonment and torture of Pope Boniface for defying King Philippe IV of France, Pentagon officials warn the Holy See that Pope Leo better choose his side carefully.

rowem.substack.com

I believe you are correct. Trump likely saw the new Pope as a prestige claim for America, and thereby, himself.

As for the 77M faithful in the States, they remain pretty divided, with many having backed Trump for various reasons. They have no problem disagreeing with their Papa.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Rutte is pressing his luck.

NATO's Rutte tells allies Trump wants Hormuz pledges within days, diplomats say

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte has told European governments that U.S. President Donald Trump wants concrete commitments within days to help secure the Strait of Hormuz, diplomats said on Thursday, as the alliance faces U.S. threats to leave.

www.reuters.com

 

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