This guy's accent is mesmerizingly cute

[nycguydowntown]

I disagree. His accent is standard American. He may have a throaty tone to his voice, but that's neither an accent nor cute in my opinion.

very true---standard accent a lot of white guys sound like him--but he is very cute.

 

[Cormac135]

Irritating voice, I'll pass.

 

[belamyi]

Are you accusing me of cheating on my man? Cuz if you aint got pic/video proof you aint got shit. If you do have evidence, youre missing the context of my behavior. If the context makes it clear that Im deliberately cheating on him then youre a terrorist.

I was simply not taking you seriously concerning your partnerhood/s

I was likewise assuming you had an ass on a hot tin roof, that couldn't get satisfied by cross-Atlantic fancying

 

[belamyi]

very true---standard accent a lot of white guys sound like him--but he is very cute.

Because he's something like a WASPier version of a Guido?

 

[Latimer]

I disagree. His accent is standard American. He may have a throaty tone to his voice, but that's neither an accent nor cute in my opinion.

This is a regional accent. Not close at all to Standard American or RP.

 

[belamyi]

^ God forbid belamo lecturing any sort of Anglo over English accents

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You have more credibility


Anyway... is there actually a standard, when even the standards are just passing fads?

 

[Latimer]

I posted similar to this previously. For unspecified reasons it disappeared:

Barack Obama speaks Standard American, except when he speaks before a black audience or an audience he has presumably deemed of another, lower class than himself, when he then starts droppin' final g's. Hillary Clinton (Wesleyan valedictorian) does the same. (The one thing you can say about Donald Trump is that he never changed his Queens accent to suit his perceived audience.)

George W. Bush has a Texas regional American accent. I believe there are many. His father, George H.W. Bush spoke a regional East Coast American accent, of which there are many. John F. Kennedy's Boston accent is one of the most easily recognizable.

Bill Clinton has a regional southern accent, of which there are many. Jimmy Carter's is noticeably different than Clinton's.

Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon spoke Standard American.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I posted similar to this previously. For unspecified reasons it disappeared:

Barack Obama speaks Standard American, except when he speaks before a black audience or an audience he has presumably deemed of lower class than himself, when he then starts droppin' final g's. Hillary Clinton (Wesleyan valedictorian) does the same. (The one thing you can say about Donald Trump is that he never changed his Queens accent to suit his perceived audience.)

George W. Bush has a Texas regional American accent. I believe there are many. His father, George H.W. Bush spoke a regional East Coast American accent, of which there are many. John F. Kennedy's Boston accent is one of the most easily recognizable.

Bill Clinton has a regional southern accent, of which there are many. Jimmy Carter's is noticeably different than Clinton's.

Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon spoke Standard American.

You posted this in the wrong thread.

Per Obama and Hillary, code switching is an integral part of power dynamics. We HAVE to change who we are depending on the audience. Its not fun, but we didnt male these rules. Notice the only people you mentioned who get to "keep it real" no matter what the audience is the demographic that sits at the very top of the socio-political totem pole?

As the first generation of authentically knowledgeable Af Americans, my generation heard our moms "heyyyyy gurrrrrrl" when family called and speak the queen's english when a boss or bill collector called. Power dynamics are a fatherfucker.

 

[belamyi]

You posted this in the wrong thread.

Per Obama and Hillary, code switching is an integral part of power dynamics. We HAVE to change who we are depending on the audience. Its not fun, but we didnt male these rules. Notice the only people you mentioned who get to "keep it real" no matter what the audience is the demographic that sits at the very top of the socio-political totem pole?

Is that not more related to an era in which uppishness still held sway, before trashiness (particularly Southern) became acceptable?

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Is that not more related to an era in which uppishness still held sway, before trashiness (particularly Southern) became acceptable?

Precisely, something I never considered til this very moment, I am literally the first generation in my family to peacefully attend an integrated school. An incident here or there of a teacher calling a student a racial slur or a group of white jocks trolling black classmates by pounding on a table loudly and cheerfully shouting in unison rap lyrics that contain the n word, but the bar is so low I'll consider my experience a successfully integrated school. Dunno if it was school or environment but something in my mom's history birthed a need to change up not only her accent but tone, cadence et cetera.

Even my cousin who was approx my age spoke an overly articulate accent with his classmates. Growing up he spoke ebonics then one day a schoolmate or maybe his girlfriend calls and suddenly he sounds like a male Sarah Palin. I didnt understand the phenomenon, but I knew enough to be grossd out. I used to resent blacks who did this til I considered code switching is essentially a survival technique.

 

[Latimer]

Not all politicians code switch. Not all politicians feel the need to assume different manners and accents depending on the audience. Were you offended when you read that Joe Biden said "You ain't black if..." to a black audience? I certainly would be. I found it condescending and racist that he would assume that this would appeal to a black audience, that he thought that this departure from Standard English would enhance his credibility. Would he ever have used "ain't" befoe a white audience?

I have no problem when individuals assume different voices depending on the setting, unless it comes out of condescension or a sense of superiority.

I have a good Scottish friend now living in California who found it expedient to learn perfect RP when he moved to London. I have an Italian friend from a small town in northern Italy whose madrelingua is Piemontese (a variety of Provencal) who shed his regional accent for Italiano Standard when he moved to Rome. I am well aware that similarly some blacks find it useful or perceive it to be necessary to "sound white". I am also aware and know blacks who always sounded "white", and who only "sound black" to make a point or amuse. Or never at all, because it is foreign to them. Colin Powell (RIP), of Jamaican parentage, spoke impeccable Standard American. I can't imagine he ever felt the need to change his accent or vocabulary to better fit in with any group.

 

[belamyi]

Not all politicians code switch. Not all politicians feel the need to assume different manners and accents depending on the audience. Were you offended when you read that Joe Biden said "You ain't black if..." to a black audience? I certainly would be. I found it condescending and racist that he would assume that this would appeal to a black audience, that he thought that this departure from Standard English would enhance his credibility. Would he ever have used "ain't" befoe a white audience?

I always found condescending "Caucasian" (basically "Anglo" "Imperial" ) people "feeling offended on behalf of", because it assumes and perpetuates the patronizing of a certain "helpless minority"... which actually happens to be the majority, and certainly not helpless at all, but which happens to have been socially and politically "minorized".

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Not all politicians code switch. Not all politicians feel the need to assume different manners and accents depending on the audience. Were you offended when you read that Joe Biden said "You ain't black if..." to a black audience? I certainly would be. I found it condescending and racist that he would assume that this would appeal to a black audience, that he thought that this departure from Standard English would enhance his credibility. Would he ever have used "ain't" befoe a white audience?

I have no problem when individuals assume different voices depending on the setting, unless it comes out of condescension or a sense of superiority.

I have a good Scottish friend now living in California who found it expedient to learn perfect RP when he moved to London. I have an Italian friend from a small town in northern Italy whose madrelingua is Piemontese (a variety of Provencal) who shed his regional accent for Italiano Standard when he moved to Rome. I am well aware that similarly some blacks find it useful or perceive it to be necessary to "sound white". I am also aware and know blacks who always sounded "white", and who only "sound black" to make a point or amuse. Or never at all, because it is foreign to them. Colin Powell (RIP), of Jamaican parentage, spoke impeccable Standard American. I can't imagine he ever felt the need to change his accent or vocabulary to better fit in with any group.

I'm going to ignore your disingenuous attempts to convince me that "you get it" and that racism bothers you and I cant even pretend to be unaware of your die-hard political devotion to the right, so I'll go back to the topic.

My favorite singer Jojo is from Boston but having moved to LA at the start of her career (age 11-12) she cleaned up her heavy new england accent to fit in. This happens a lot to friends from the New York area who move to the south, they lose their accent naturally or purposely. But Jojo, and most New Yorkers, reveal themselves when angry or drunk, the accent comes bubbling right back to the top.

I'm from the midwest so I have the radio DJ non-accent accent but after living in the south since 2004 Ive, unfortunately, picked up somewhat of a drawl. Still articulate but my speech is muuuuuch slower. I hate this and dont do it on purpose, but i dont notice til I talk to friends from home and realize theyre speaking 170 words per minute to my 8 words per minute. Considering seeing a speech therapist because I refuse to continue my life sounding like a backwoods boondocks country bumpkin.

 

[Latimer]

I have no need to convince you of my bona fides regarding politics or race.

I would like, however, to remind you that at the time of the Jussie Smollett hysteria, I was one of the few persons to post in this forum that I thought the man was a fraud, that the stories he told to the world were patently absurd. For this I was roundly denounced as racist. The most lamentable response was from those who, rather than rejoicing that the crime he alleged never happened, were disappointed that it hadn't.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I have no need to convince you of my bona fides regarding politics or race.

I would like, however, to remind you that at the time of the Jussie Smollett hysteria, I was one of the few persons to post in this forum that I thought the man was a fraud, that the stories he told to the world were patently absurd. For this I was roundly denounced as racist. The most lamentable response was from those who, rather than rejoicing that the crime he alleged never happened, were disappointed that it hadn't.

Please dont say her name 3x, she'll appear, like Beetlejuice. We banished her to the nether realm the moment she called herself "the gay tupac." The council will forgive this offense, but next time we will vote on banishing you as well. She who shall not be named shall not... be named. The only good thing she ever did for the world was precipitate the demise of Empire.

 

[unloadonme]

This is a regional accent. Not close at all to Standard American or RP.

Maybe I should have said "generic" then. I admit that I don't have much of an ear for American accents. I can spot New York and Deep South, but all of the rest sound the same to me.

RP is something else to my mind. It's accent-less English as spoken in England. Standard American and RP are surely mutually exclusive.

 

[belamyi]

^ In conclusion: all of you native Anglospeakers know as much shit about accents as I might do

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

^ In conclusion: all of you native Anglospeakers know as much shit about accents as I might do

I know everything about everything.

 

[belamyi]

^ Excuse me, since when does a Black Queen Goddess identify as a common "native Anglospeaker"?

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What a big let down and disappointment

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

^ Excuse me, since when does a Black Queen Goddess identify as a common "native Anglospeaker"?

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What a big let down and disappointment

Why am I speaking English? Well about 400 years ago some white people came to Africa to do us *checks notes* the greatest favor ever known to man.