TIPPING on VACATION

[Willie Boy]

If you think it's "greed" to expect that people should earn more than minimum wage we are indeed at an impasse.

However, since you are done with this thread and since it's about the dignity of labor which I think is important, I don't mind making a few more comments.



Minimum wage.



One thing we shall never learn is how you feel so "compelled" to pay a tip? Certainly, it's not threads like this one! These should only make you more parsimonious. Do servers brandish pepper grinders menacingly at you? Does the sommelier snap her tasting cup demandingly in your direction? Or maybe that dragoness Emily Post visits you at night, her suggestions terrifying as a succubus' sighs that you must, you mussst, you must tip 35%! Oh God!



Many? Ha ha! There is absolutely no shortage of people happy to leave a generous tip. Quite the opposite, its penury like yours which is rare.



Servers are always hired with the understanding that they will earn tips. This is the "custom." It's such a commonplace idea that I don't think I've ever seen it stated formally. No server would accept a service job in the first place if all they were going to earn was minimum wage! (Unless forced to work in the hellfired fastfood joints you haunt.)

Here's to generosity!

One last time. If they aren't willing to work for minimum wage, they shouldn't take a job that pays minimum wage. There are many jobs out there that pay only minimum wage and quite a few of them don't receive tips. Is it ok for those workers to work for only minimum wage when servers can extort money from customers to enhance the padding of their wallets.

 

[zoltanspawn]

One last time. If they aren't willing to work for minimum wage, they shouldn't take a job that pays minimum wage. There are many jobs out there that pay only minimum wage and quite a few of them don't receive tips. Is it ok for those workers to work for only minimum wage when servers can extort money from customers to enhance the padding of their wallets.

You confuse Alinea with WalMart, and every restaurant besides.

 

[TickTockMan]

Ah! So at least you admit that people work for some reason other than the joy inherent in labor! Pay, people work for pay! That's a more reasonable formulation, I think. But what about pay?

You are very slow. I never said they didn’t. Actually throughout this thread I said they do work for pay. You in fact point out what I have already said with your next lines.

No. You have ONLY paid the cost of labor within your order in the amount of *minimum wage*.

 

[Willie Boy]

You are very slow. I never said they didn’t. Actually throughout this thread I said they do work for pay. You in fact point out what I have already said with your next lines.

The fool seems to think that taking a job at minimum wages ENTITLES a person (only in certain service industries) to extort more money from customers with the threat of poor service during subsequent visits if the proper gift is not offered.