To all the straight dude: have you ever considered gay sex , ONCE?

[innocentbychoice]

I appreciate that, thanks. I try and be as honest in my life as possible.

Yes I do think human sexuality is very complex, and that the vast majority of people aren't dwelling in the black or whites, but in various degrees of the shady greys. I mean the large gay/bi/"shemale" porn market isn't exactly being driven by people who are exclusively practicing that type of sexual activity in their real lives. I think curiousity is a common human condition, and more people have, at the very least, thought on non-typical sexual activity than most will ever let on.

No, I always had the opportunity. I have been hit on and propositioned by both women and men, and sometimes quite persistently. I also grew up near a major city, and reside now within in NYC, so it definitely wouldn't have been for lack of availability. My interest just was never high enough. I think there can be a 1,000 miles between wondering about a thing in a very general sense and actually executing that in your real life. In my specific case any curiousities or "what ifs" about gay sex never felt remotely compulsive or strong enough to desire taking action.

Ok I get you. Maybe you just needed some alcohol lol.

 

[innocentbychoice]

You're funny.

In other news your icon is killer. I'm nursing a lifelong crush on Lynda Carter. Truly one of the most beautiful women ever. Still is.

Haha thank you and thank you. Yeah it's an awesome icon, but now I can't find the original pic anywhere on the net I think it was some artwork of a fan or something like that, it's lost now oh well.

 

[tcrozier09]

I am a straight guy and stumbled upon this forum, so as opposed to the belief of many of the responses in this thread, it is possible for a straight guy to wind up here.

For the record, I am straight and am not in denial, bi-curious, anti-gay, etc...

The reason I happen to stumble upon this forum is, I enjoy anal play (giving and receiving). This has been the case for years, and I have couple toys as well as a girlfriend I live with that I have slowly been able to introduce to my desires.

It's actually a hard subject to initiate with a female that you like to be played with "down there" because of the homosexual association. Honestly, the response I got from her after our first experimentation was "Does this mean you are going to leave me now?"

She thought that because I was willing to admit prostate stimulation feels good, I must be gay. This is coming from a woman who has a gay brother...

The stigma associated that men enjoying anal stimulation is pretty saddening. Especially since a man's body is more anatomically designed for receiving pleasure from it. There was even a time for me when I had a girlfriend who asked if she could insert a finger in my ass during sex, but I said no even though I would have enjoyed the hell out of it, because of the things she could have said to others about me had things ever gone sour...

Going back though, progress has been slow with the current GF (and now fiance), but rewarding... I'm glad she has gotten over her pre-conceived notions of the idea because it is always more fun when someone helps you out...

So, as a straight guy who enjoys giving and receiving anal affection albeit with a GF who I am hesitant to lay it all down on the table with, I ended up here after doing some google searches while being a bit horny and ended up stumbling upon this thread; I figured I might have a unique perspective on the question...


Getting to the point in hand, the only instances when I have ever considered gay sex (in any sense) were the moments when I thought to myself "I don't know what she (the current GF and formers) would about me if she knew I wanted her to (fill in the blank), what if I just experimented with (fill in with bi-curious/homosexual guy) to fulfill my urges?"

The answer to that question always came back as a negative. It boils down to the fact that I am attracted to females and not males. The fact of the matter for me is, just because it feels good is not enough to get me off.

I am quite sure my GF doing me from behind with a strapon would get me off, but a guy doing me from behind; even though he can feel what he is doing and might be more experienced in the matter, is not a turn on in the least for me. If I were to achieve orgasm in that situation, it would be because I was imagining him as a female with an artificial cock and even then I don't think fulfillment would be a given.

Granted, I can't speak for all men, but sex for me has to contain more than just the physical aspect, otherwise it's just not really worth it to me. Every time I have had a one night stand or drunken mistake, I was already regretting it before it was even over.

Hope I was able to provide some insight on the matter, but I can't speak for all men, just myself.

 

[Krakenbwool]

^ Thanks for the honest answer.

I have the opposite predicament of you. I'm a girl who really digs playing with men's asses, but I'm very hesitant to bring it up because I don't want him to feel like I'm undermining his "masculinity" or whatever (which is completely stupid because liking assplay doesn't make you gay or less-of-a-man, etc.). Online I've actually found a lot of offers for that kind of stuff, but it's just something I wouldn't go for with an anonymous person.

 

[boxerdudeuk]

100% straight guys want to have sex with other men as much as 100% gay men want to have sex with women.

so..... you do the math.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

no, krakenbwool, being gay doesn't mean that you are less than a man,in fact,it actually means that you are more MASCULINE than anyone who is married(connected) to a female "other half",perform lesbian sex with females,use feminine body parts as if they were born with them as well,feel that they belong more to the opposite sex than to someone of their own sexual group,don't have the slight embarrassment of allowing a person who doesn't have his same organs inside and out to touch them, smell them etc and much more.
this is the very cause of why so many masculine male have become pseudo-lesbians,just because they are gay men out there that are effeminate,it doesn't mean that a masculine man should think that swallowing females hormones and allowing a woman to fuck them would make them more masculine,than a MASCULINE man who don't accept either kinds of effeminacy,do you know why? because these MASCULINE man do not DESIRE anything FROM FEMALES,NOT EVEN REPRODUCTION.
as i have written before, if in order for a gay man to be considered a real man or macho by society, he has to live his whole life "feeling" his wife's pussy, then he has no other option but to become a fag.At least to be a fag is a socially fabricated garbage,but to be "sensible" to another non masculine group,Helloooooo!!!!!!! wake up!!! if this is the sort of masculinity that these straight men want, then good for them.
if a man allows a woman to put their freaking pussy on his "senses" and think that asking females to make them feel a pussy as much as females do,then, what can you expect,would you be surprised of knowing that a pseudo-lesbian man is looking for a female to demasculinize them by sticking her finger in his ass, what will he allow her to do next,fist him? i don't think any fag would allow such a humiliation and blatant lost of masculinity sweetheart.That would be the last straw.
as long as you don't use feminine body parts to get sexual arousal with, you do not effeminate, is impossible,you might be considered less than a man,gay,fag,by the very society that wants us to make us believe that a man that is "unsensible" to female body parts is less masculine than the one who is "sensible" to them.This is the kind of things that masculine gay men need to tell these straight men,who are as masculine as we are,but who do not understand, or don't want to accept the cost that we are all paying.

 

[innocentbychoice]

no, krakenbwool, being gay doesn't mean that you are less than a man,in fact,it actually means that you are more MASCULINE than anyone who is married(connected) to a female "other half",perform lesbian sex with females,use feminine body parts as if they were born with them as well,feel that they belong more to the opposite sex than to someone of their own sexual group,don't have the slight embarrassment of allowing a person who doesn't have his same organs inside and out to touch them, smell them etc and much more.
this is the very cause of why so many masculine male have become pseudo-lesbians,just because they are gay men out there that are effeminate,it doesn't mean that a masculine man should think that swallowing females hormones and allowing a woman to fuck them would make them more masculine,than a MASCULINE man who don't accept either kinds of effeminacy,do you know why? because these MASCULINE man do not DESIRE anything FROM FEMALES,NOT EVEN REPRODUCTION.
as i have written before, if in order for a gay man to be considered a real man or macho by society, he has to live his whole life "feeling" his wife's pussy, then he has no other option but to become a fag.At least to be a fag is a socially fabricated garbage,but to be "sensible" to another non masculine group,Helloooooo!!!!!!! wake up!!! if this is the sort of masculinity that these straight men want, then good for them.
if a man allows a woman to put their freaking pussy on his "senses" and think that asking females to make them feel a pussy as much as females do,then, what can you expect,would you be surprised of knowing that a pseudo-lesbian man is looking for a female to demasculinize them by sticking her finger in his ass, what will he allow her to do next,fist him? i don't think any fag would allow such a humiliation and blatant lost of masculinity sweetheart.That would be the last straw.
as long as you don't use feminine body parts to get sexual arousal with, you do not effeminate, is impossible,you might be considered less than a man,gay,fag,by the very society that wants us to make us believe that a man that is "unsensible" to female body parts is less masculine than the one who is "sensible" to them.This is the kind of things that masculine gay men need to tell these straight men,who are as masculine as we are,but who do not understand, or don't want to accept the cost that we are all paying.

First of all, the space bar is your friend.

Second, she never said anything about gay people, she was talking about ass play with straight men, and that it's hard for her to bring it up cuz she doesn't want them to feel less masculine.

 

[youngnihilist]

The question is pointless. There are no real straight guys here. There are just closet cases (that may or may not be bi) who call themselves straight. To answer your question, every "straight dude" reading this site has considered gay sex, many times.

 

[tcrozier09]

The question is pointless. There are no real straight guys here. There are just closet cases (that may or may not be bi) who call themselves straight. To answer your question, every "straight dude" reading this site has considered gay sex, many times.

What an open mind you have there. I'm not offended at all by your assumptions...

But by your own blanket-logic I could just as easily say that you are a straight man who ended up calling himself/believing he was gay just to have the luxury of living out the delusion you had found your place in this world.

Maybe in high school you were an quirky, weird effeminate outsider that just didn't fit in with other peers at your school. Your attempts of displaying your interest in girls (on non-attempts because of your shyness and complete lack in self-confidence with women that made your failed "displays" of interest in women come off as stalker-ish) fueled your secret disdain of woman. The best case scenario of such displays on interest for you only paid off dividends by being "such great friends" with the objects of your desire.

Maybe your continual rejection by the only people you ever attempted to open yourself up to without ever really having the balls to say how you really felt was responsible for your self defense mechanism of "being gay."

This conclusion, from your perspective of course, was enlightening. You said to yourself "Oh gee-wilickers, this explains why I feel like such an outsider, I'm gay and I never even knew it. All I need is to add some flamboyance to my demeanor, learn some show-tunes and start cutting hair and everyone will understand that I'm not weird as fuck, I'm just gay!" Of course, all along it was never because of your social ineptitude...


I know I'm probably going to get some hell for this post, but I'm just trying to make a point to the douche I quoted about pulling assumptions out of their (don't know what language flies in the forum... fill in the blank yourself).

And for the record, this post by no means reflects my beliefs on the origins of homosexuality or my views on gay males. Just trying to make an overly-elaborate point about how pre-conceived notions and blanket stereotyping are just plain ignorant.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

i know that krakennwool wasn't talking about gays. my point was about the association of sexually being with the same sex as effeminacy, and being with the opposite sex as masculinizing.
this is the reason why a heterosexual man can swallow female hormones, have a feminine other half,"sense" feminine body parts as if they were on his own body etc and still feel "masculine", when they are actually very close of being sexually androgynous.
the heterosexual man, that comes in here, need to know, that homosexuality is not effeminacy, what effeminate a man is the desire to possess gender and sexual traits of another distinct sexual group. Not all gay man refers to our anus as pussy or anything of that sort.
Anything that strengthen the male to male bond has, by nature, a masculinizing effect. it goes from sucking cocks, to putting cocks inside one ass,etc. Any sexual action that allows a man's brain to feel the same sexual organs that their body is made of, masculinizes us. So a man can be sensitive to another man ,without becoming effeminate, since this is the way men are neurologically programmed to be. it is only when society wants to create the illusion that rejecting one's own sex and adopting another distant sexually inverted one, is masculinizing, that things become pretty messed up. Because now, those who men allow themselves to feel female body parts ,will be socially regarded as real men, the more they show that they are willing to retrieve physical pleasure by using female organs as sexual ones, the more manhood they think they can get. Those males that won't do oral sex to females, that won't call a woman their "other half", nor tell a woman ,give me your body parts so that i can feel them, and i give you mine so that you can feel them,etc; those men, are going to be immediately persecuted by society because they won't be willing to turn themselves into a man that like to feel female body parts and nerves, just to get the social status of real men, macho etc. Those men know that they possess a naturally given masculinity that strongly relies on keeping sex same bonds strong, loving their own sex, and not getting enough of it. These men are also aware that they have a sexuality that is 100% theirs. A sexuality that females are looking after, a masculine sexual belonging that masculinized females are trying to experience.
some gays, specially the effeminate ones, must stop trying to use our masculine sexuality for the illusory purpose of "feeling like a woman" or connecting to their feminine side, etc, that's bullshit, because it is simply not so. it is actually a woman who has to adopt and feel what by nature is 100% ours.
Insemination carries a huge cost for us when it comes to put two fully distinct urinary organs together, one being flatter than the other, go figure.......!!; with the result of a naturally caused sexual deviancy. if you want to feel like woman, and connect yourself with your feminine side, them i advise you to have sex with a woman, period. They will let you know what a woman feels like, you will learn their anatomy from head to toes, you will see what they have inside, you will feel part of them, you will feel that you and her are "one body", you will feel that you and her are the same flesh etc.

 

[youngnihilist]

What an open mind you have there. I'm not offended at all by your assumptions...

But by your own blanket-logic I could just as easily say that you are a straight man who ended up calling himself/believing he was gay just to have the luxury of living out the delusion you had found your place in this world.

Maybe in high school you were an quirky, weird effeminate outsider that just didn't fit in with other peers at your school. Your attempts of displaying your interest in girls (on non-attempts because of your shyness and complete lack in self-confidence with women that made your failed "displays" of interest in women come off as stalker-ish) fueled your secret disdain of woman. The best case scenario of such displays on interest for you only paid off dividends by being "such great friends" with the objects of your desire.

Maybe your continual rejection by the only people you ever attempted to open yourself up to without ever really having the balls to say how you really felt was responsible for your self defense mechanism of "being gay."

This conclusion, from your perspective of course, was enlightening. You said to yourself "Oh gee-wilickers, this explains why I feel like such an outsider, I'm gay and I never even knew it. All I need is to add some flamboyance to my demeanor, learn some show-tunes and start cutting hair and everyone will understand that I'm not weird as fuck, I'm just gay!" Of course, all along it was never because of your social ineptitude...


I know I'm probably going to get some hell for this post, but I'm just trying to make a point to the douche I quoted about pulling assumptions out of their (don't know what language flies in the forum... fill in the blank yourself).

And for the record, this post by no means reflects my beliefs on the origins of homosexuality or my views on gay males. Just trying to make an overly-elaborate point about how pre-conceived notions and blanket stereotyping are just plain ignorant.

Look, you're on this site. A gay porn site. Gay images everywhere. Sex sex sex. Gay sex. Now. Why are you here? You are attracted to men, on some level. No denying that.

Your hyperventilating response proves my point. Something is making you upset. Deny all you want.

This is just typical of closet cases I encounter all the time. usually the response is extreme anger and fear when they are told they are anything but straight. Just my opinion, but if you're past college and aren't supported by family it's time to man up

 

[youngnihilist]

Oh no! Are you telling me, after all these years, that I only thought I loved women? Only pretended that I was into pussy? Do you mean to tell me that I actually am craving the strong, hairy arms of a man? That I'm secretly cock hungry and just didn't know it?? Am I suffocating in an invisible closet, and never realized it after all this time???

Why didn't you tell me this sooner goddammit?! Why did you let me waste my life loving some poor, helpless woman with all my heart, enjoying the sweetness of her body, and only thinking that I was happy and fulfilled?

I now do not have a clue how I ever got by without you here to tell me who I really, truly am.

I am devastated but not afraid. Why, you ask? Because I now have you here to help me see the light.

Will you help me find my inner queen? Will you?

Another frantic response. Well I don't know, I can't help you find your inner queen. That's something only therapy and maybe a few cocktails will help you do.

I'm not saying you all aren't attracted to women. There's a thing called bisexuality. but to call yourself straight when you're on this site looking at men for hours is really hypocritical

I would think if there are truly straight men on this site, then your responses would be more civil. When real straight guys secure in their sexuality are accused of gay they usually laugh it off because they know who they are

 

[GiacomoPisani]

Will you help me find my inner queen? Will you?[/QUOTE]

how come do you even dare to call a homoseuxal man a queen ,you,YOU!!! how come!! i can't believe it!!! i'm insulted!! keep enjoying the sweetness (hahahahahaha) of the female sex change hormones,the naaaaaaasty vaginal secretions loaded with all sort of infections,blood,fishy smells that i told you that not even your bitch have stomach for,because of that crap I AM A FAG!!!! because of that CRAP alone!!!. i don't need to prove my natural masculinity getting married to a non masculine person or eating vaginal excretions,do you know why? because i clean my ass with the socially fabricated concept of masculinity.After all ,i'm the one who don't have a clue how the heck a freaking woman is like,AM A PROUD FEMALE-FREE MALE. i take pride in not being sensitive to feminine body parts,nerves, tissues,etc.i'm only sensitive and receptive,and passive, to masculine ones.

But, after all, aren't you a half man????!!! or are you gonna keep saying the bunch of crap that you have wrote before.Look who is talking about being a queen!!!, a man that even let a woman eat his ass ...mmmmmmm because the baby prefer that someone who was not born with a cock smell him and drink his semen..how masculine!!! Have some self respect and some sense of pride in your own sex!!,and stop trying to glorify the opposite sex,because you know that we won't buy it here. These other people are DISGUSTED by the genetic conditions that they were born with,and see us as sexually better than their own kind, and yet, you come here,telling us how sweet the opposite sex is,and how good it is to feel cravings for body parts that not even the opposite sex have the stomach to crave for.Sheer submissiveness to the opposite sex is what you have,and i told you that you are in denial.

i can't completely understand the concept of loving another different sexual group above your own,it doesn't enter in my head.That a person is able to get horny by touching a piece of flesh that is not in his own body is very interesting to me. Because i know i could never EVER be into something like that. And what are you gonna say?, that the majority can't conceive how come people of the same sex,with the same body parts inside and out,are not disgusted by each other,and that instead of that, they find sexual love and fulfillment with those of their OWN freaking natural sexual group (ONLY).
we have no other option but to oppose this mistaken majority.we can't accept their twisted values and ethic under any circumstances.

homosexuals don't want to have an alternative sexuality,alternative organs that have to be turn into pseudo sexual organs because we can not have any actual way of feeling those parts as much as we do with cock,testicles,nipples.We don't feel the REAL natural sexual belonging that we do when we have another man by our side with a woman.At least for me,having a 69 with a woman is not much different than having it with an animal,and i don't mean to offend anyone with this,but it is the truth. This is how i feel about it.Didn't i told you that you, the heterosexuals, even have "ghost sexual" organs that you have never seen and that you can not even "feel" etc.

You are an improvised couple,you say that you belong to each other, but you really don't,you say your relationship is natural,but it has sexual dimorphism every where.You think that you are masculine but you consider yourself connected to a feminine "other half",not to a masculine one,and so on... all the disparities,incongruities,contradictions of heterosexual coupling, that you pridefully find them as pull and push balance etc guess what? we don't want them.

we will always oppose this majority that in the name of aberrant animal behavior wants us to have a high caliber sexual fetish involving attraction to sexually dimorphic body parts and organs that are not even related to one another;fall into pseudo-lesbian sexual acts like pussy eating and fingering,and on top of that,allow a different sex person to do oral sex to us,as if we were from the same sexual group.no buddy, that ain't gonna happen with us.

i told you,that homosexuals do not find pleasure with that which the opposite sex can 't find pleasure with,especially when the involved body parts are intrinsically theirs,not ours.Homosexuals do not feel any need of involving another distinct sex into our masculine sexual form,in other words, we don't need to mix sodomy with lesbianism.We don't desire nor have cravings for performing lesbian sexual acts.The boundaries between each sexual form are very marked by us.

This is the very reason i wrote my last post.we must break the sweet bubbles that these naive heterosexual men have created.we must tell them what it really means to have a sexual attachment with a non masculine, biologically different sex.they must know that we don't associate feeling female body parts with masculinity at all.we feel more masculine with a cock in our mouth and another inside our ass,than penetrating a pussy,while fondling boobs,and "sensing" clitoris.

 

[youngnihilist]

You are cracking me up right now. If you think that obviously hyper-sarcastic post is a "frantic" response, you've got problems a lot deeper than your obvious obsession with the sexuality of anonymous posters on some website little man.



I've been looking at men on this site? My GOD, again, why didn't you tell me! All that looking and I missed it???

God I'm so in love with you right now. You just keep on letting me in on all my inner secrets, secrets that not even I see.

Oh wait, I said I was in love with you!

Is that another sign that I'm gay?



I so agree! Your responses have kept me laughed up.



But by all means, keep it coming. I'm enjoying this thoroughly.

Enjoy your delusions of grandeur, closet case.

 

[innocentbychoice]

What youngnihilist is that the fact that you guys are on a gay site like this, shows that you have some interest in the gay life. Now, I give it to you guys and tell you that it doesn't really mean you like men, cuz some of you might just be curious about the gay lifestyle and our points of view but aren't into men yourselves (I know I'm part of a transgendered forum and I'm not attracted to transwomen and I'm not trans myself).

On the other hand I also get what youngnihilist is saying and I find it really silly how you guys got all defensive about nothing. Can't you just say "I don't like men, I'm here because..." the fact that you got so defensive does make you look like a closet-case, I'm not saying you are though.

So to sum up, chill the fuck out.

 

[evanrick]

men share sex with men they consider friends or are just plain horny. of course guys will be sexual with each other but that doesnt make them gay. of course men will welcome affection from another guy depending on the circumstances.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

when we say that gays can have sex with each other and that doesn't make them gay.there is a problem with this statement.
nature doesn't create gays,nor fags ,nor real man,nor machos,nature create tendencies such as appetites,instincts etc.society is the only one who fabricate theses labels.
sex is not sexual preference,just because a man have sex with another man doesn't mean that he necessarily finds the smell of cocks,swallowing cum,fondling testicles,etc a pleasing experience.But if this man,given the physical and neurological ways that man are constituted,is able to get a hard on with another man,and is repeatedly able to enjoy other men giving him oral sex,then this man is bi.how much he finds pleasing his own sex,that depends on many things.for example,i know for sure,that i can't get a hard-on with a woman.if i could them i should consider myself slightly bi.
we have seen the bunch of proudly "straights" that come to this board saying that they don't have any attraction to males bodies at all but that they are only attracted to theirs cocks,some even claim that they only want a man to fuck them.etc and are very unwilling to, at least, accept that they are slightly bi.

these men do have strong physical attraction to man,they just don't want to be fully aware of this,and since they are able to have more enjoyment with women than with men ,it is very easy for them to repress their "sexual thoughts" for the same sex.Someday these men that are posting on here, will wake up with their repressed sexual appetites for other men to the MAX, and will go out to a bathhouse,park anywhere they can remain anonymous... and they will fulfill their same sex needs.These men will CHOOSE the ones they are gonna have sex with,according to physical appearance.i bet that they don't fantasized having sex with a 90 years old man,nor with a handicap man,i can almost read their fantasies. They even have ethnic sexual preferences,which type of men bodies they find more appealing etc.

 

[Krakenbwool]

no, krakenbwool, being gay doesn't mean that you are less than a man,in fact,it actually means that you are more MASCULINE than anyone who is married(connected) to a female "other half",perform lesbian sex with females,use feminine body parts as if they were born with them as well,feel that they belong more to the opposite sex than to someone of their own sexual group,don't have the slight embarrassment of allowing a person who doesn't have his same organs inside and out to touch them, smell them etc and much more.
this is the very cause of why so many masculine male have become pseudo-lesbians,just because they are gay men out there that are effeminate,it doesn't mean that a masculine man should think that swallowing females hormones and allowing a woman to fuck them would make them more masculine,than a MASCULINE man who don't accept either kinds of effeminacy,do you know why? because these MASCULINE man do not DESIRE anything FROM FEMALES,NOT EVEN REPRODUCTION.
as i have written before, if in order for a gay man to be considered a real man or macho by society, he has to live his whole life "feeling" his wife's pussy, then he has no other option but to become a fag.At least to be a fag is a socially fabricated garbage,but to be "sensible" to another non masculine group,Helloooooo!!!!!!! wake up!!! if this is the sort of masculinity that these straight men want, then good for them.
if a man allows a woman to put their freaking pussy on his "senses" and think that asking females to make them feel a pussy as much as females do,then, what can you expect,would you be surprised of knowing that a pseudo-lesbian man is looking for a female to demasculinize them by sticking her finger in his ass, what will he allow her to do next,fist him? i don't think any fag would allow such a humiliation and blatant lost of masculinity sweetheart.That would be the last straw.
as long as you don't use feminine body parts to get sexual arousal with, you do not effeminate, is impossible,you might be considered less than a man,gay,fag,by the very society that wants us to make us believe that a man that is "unsensible" to female body parts is less masculine than the one who is "sensible" to them.This is the kind of things that masculine gay men need to tell these straight men,who are as masculine as we are,but who do not understand, or don't want to accept the cost that we are all paying.

I specifically said in my post that I didn't think a man messing with his ass (or another man for that matter) doesn't make him "less than a man." In fact, I'd like it if more straight men were confident enough with their masculinity to do the things that gay/bi men do sexually. Honestly, you are projecting your paranoia way too much on others.

And I sincerely hope that you're what they call a "masculine" gay man, too, since you are so intent on masculinity. Nothing wrong with that, but I can't count the number of times I've read rants like these written by effeminate gay men who feel like they have to compensate for something.

 

[GiacomoPisani]

Actually no, that's not what ''youngnihilist'' said. He made a laughable, ignorant statement that suggests one's presence on this forums means that they are either sleeping with men while in the closet, want to sleep with men, or are here for the porn, all of which are ''none of the above'' for me. But he didn't ask any questions, make an inquires, he just flitted in with his silly little bit, dropped it as fact, and sauntered off.

Which I found to be genuinely absurd, and I responded in kind with the laughter it merited. It wasn't worthy of ''defense''. You guys are reading waaaay too much into that, at least with my posts. I was having a good ole time, and I'm a little surprised that anybody would read my uber factious responses to him as anything remotely serious.



That's pretty odd coming from you seeing that you and I had what I considered to be a really nice exchange earlier in the thread where I was completely honest about the reasons I am here, and have been across several threads. Like I've said several times, this is an anonymous site, only nutjobs are going to lie about why they're here.

I'm a lot of things, but I'm pretty sure I'm sane. Or sane enough. Right?



Dude I'm as chill as I can get.

But you know what, Youngy up there is right. I did make a mistake trying to post on this board, even here in the straight/bi section, which I hilariously thought was here for, get this, straight and bi men to be able to post freely. I mean of course you'd find like minded men on this, the section dedicated to ''my kind'', no? I was mistaken.

Gay men are still men, human beings, and as such are prone to the same kind of small minded, petty prejudices, stupid assumptions, and narrow tunnel vision as anybody else. I'm the one who thought that a place for 'just us boys' was just that, welcoming of all men, even the ones who don't necessarily fit the mold, the occasional straight man comfortable in his sexuality who is not off put at all by gay/bi men, or LGBT issues and concerns, men who don't considers you guys on 'the other side of the track'', but look at you as just men, men dealing with some of the same shit I am, who just might have a different perspective. I personally was never here for the sex, or the porn, or the kink factor. I was here for the people, and I know how idealist that sounds, but it is the God's honest truth.

But this isn't a place for 'my kind', and I've ruffled enough feathers. So I'm bowing out. The ''you don't belong here'' message has come through loud and clear, and I'm not a man who likes to overstay his welcome.

Be well gentlemen.



(P.S. I searched endlessly for that Lynda Carter fanart for you, but I couldn't find it for a damn thing. You were right, it is tough to track down!)

i have told you many times that you are more than welcome here,in fact,you know i never denied that you are a very friendly straight man secure in his sexuality.i never doubted it.and yes this tread is for straight and bi dudes ,not for gay men like me,i'm the one who came here to talk with men like you.i came to your place.do not think that we the gays and the bisexuals have many things in common; that was your mistake.if i reacted the way i did to your posts is because that's the way i'm buddy,i'm italian,i'm loud (LOL).but i told you that i feel a lot of respect for you,because you sound sincere.
you love talking about sexuality,i know,i do too.and in many ways we are really on different sides of the fence,because that which you find pleasurable,i find it unpleasing,what you even find beautiful ,i find it ugly.but if you get so defensive like that i won't learn from you,and i want to,,and you won't get the opportunity of having a real "masculine fag" telling you why i think i'm this way.

in many ways, heterosexuality is a enigma for me,homosexuality is an enigma for all heterosexuals,but often times the reasons given,not "political" reasons.The actual reasons,REAL reasons,can even sound offensive.for instance,i wouldn't say to a woman in front of me the reasons why i don't get sexually aroused with people of their kind is because i find their body parts totally gross.i do not find men body parts gross at all,they don't either.you do.so it is a very complicated thing,because at this point, even if i were willing to have a lesbian experience with a woman, something inside of me,my ethics, my morals,i don't know what,wouldn't let me do that to myself.because i say to myself..what the heck!!! i won't force myself to find this other sexual group pleasant when the majority of those who are born with this body parts,will simply not go through the ordeal of dealing with vaginal secretion from other women,blood,vaginal infections,and on top of that,they even regard they OWN sexual organs as inferior to that of men (my sexual kind)!! so for me ,as a homoseuxal men,there is no point on even trying something like this.

if you are here,be here to debate,that's the "justsayinghello" that i want and that i like.forget about people who say that you are bi/gay in the closet,there is no point to worry about it.

so i would like to know,from your experience, how sexual attraction to people with different sex develop,like, when you were a virgin and you didn't have a clue what a woman was like,how did you got to feel "emotions",and sexual interest for them,when they weren't feeling it at all for they own kind.i never went through that process, so your experience is very valuable for all of us.

 

[stevexxx]

i have, but would be too afraid of the consequences. so i just forgot about it