Top senate Dems willing to take DADT off the table

[palemale]

Quick, all you right wing JUBers. Write your Republican Senator. I'm sure when you tell them you're gay and voted for them, they will be more than happy to vote to repeal DADT.

 

[rareboy]

Quick, all you right wing JUBers. Write your Republican Senator. I'm sure when you tell them you're gay and voted for them, they will be more than happy to vote to repeal DADT.

This.

And don't come back with the Democrats betraying the homos.

The only reason this isn't passing is because of the Republicans.

Period.

 

[White Eagle]

Sorry, I didn't see this thread when I posted my thread:

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325396

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/322531/gates:_repeal_dadt_before_january/#paragraph4

Gates - Repeal DADT Before January

At a press availability en route to Melbourne, Australia, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates told reporters that he would like Congress to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell in the lame duck session but was “not sure what the prospects for that are“:

Q: (Laughs.) Yes, exactly, ours, [inaudible] one in Australia, too, but – yeah, U.S. election outcome. In the short run, do you see any prospect for passage of START [Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty] and repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in the lame duck? And then going forward into the spring, do you think the election outcome makes it more or less likely that President Obama will decide to pull a significant number of forces from Afghanistan in the summer?

SECRETARY GATES: Well, first of all, I hope that the Congress will – that the Senate will ratify a new START. I think it’s in our interest. Both the chairman and I have testified why we think it’s in our security interest to ratify the treaty.

I would like to see the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” but I’m not sure what the prospects for that are and we’ll just have to see.

The statements mark the first time Gates publicly endorsed efforts to end the policy before the new Republican House is sworn-in in January, something Pentagon spokesperson Geoff Morrell avoided during his press conference on Thursday. Morrell insisted that Gates wanted “a study to take place in advance of that repeal to educate us how to deal” with repeal. “You know from his discussion of this dating back to last February that [the Secretary] believes that it’s better to do this smart than stupid and that this report is very important to us doing this smartly,” Morell said.

The Wonk Room has more.
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/11/07/gates-duck/

By Igor Volsky | Sourced from Think Progress
Posted at November 7, 2010, 4:44 pm

Mods You can kill my thread if you want.

 

[justapixel]

Also Kirk of IL. But I hear he's a moderate Republican, so he might vote for it. Might not.

Illinois Dumbocrats are up to their old tricks.

Delaying Kirk for as long as possible.

Kirk, who beat Democrat Alexi Giannoulias for President Barack Obama's former Senate seat, will not have his special election certified until Nov. 23, a representative for the Board of Elections confirmed Friday. After the board convenes to make its declaration on the special election results, both the governor and secretary of state must sign off on the certification.

In the interim, Democrat Roland Burris, who was appointed by then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich to fill Obama’s vacant seat, will serve out the November dates of the lame-duck session, a source within his office confirmed to POLITICO, and Kirk will likely be sworn in on Dec. 3.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44763.html#ixzz14l9BPx2w

 

[CowboyBob]

Illinois Dumbocrats are up to their old tricks.

Delaying Kirk for as long as possible.

I'm sure you voted for him.

Your Illinois Republicans want you as a second class citizen, pixie.

 

[rareboy]

If the Republican'ts had any integrity, they would have promised to stop filibustering the bill.

But all the radical right will somehow make this the fault of the Democratic congress and the Dems can't think of anything but 2012 now.

What a fucked up state of the nation.

 

[White Eagle]

are republicans threatening to filibuster the bill?

I haven't seen anything about that, but I assume they will.
Maybe they will do the bill before the 23rd and Burris can vote to repeal.

 

[palemale]

John McCain, the biggest phony in the Senate, has threatened to filibuster since before the election. Otherwise, it would have passed by now.

 

[CowboyBob]

John McCain, the biggest phony in the Senate, has threatened to filibuster since before the election. Otherwise, it would have passed by now.

Wait, wasn't John McCain for the repeal of DADT?

 

[SuperPsyze]

Wait, wasn't John McCain for the repeal of DADT?

That was like 4 years ago. He changed his mind when he announced his candidacy for president.

Although, I wouldn't put it past him to change his mind again since he's secured for the next 6 years. I wouldn't hold my breath, though.

 

[rareboy]

So where are the republicans saying 'No, no, don't take it off the table. We'll stop filibustering'

Nope. The only reason that the Dems are going gutless on this is that there apparently aren't enough reasonable Repubs to withdraw the threat to stop the military spending bill and we all know that everyone in Congress is feeding from that pork trough.

The stupidest or most cynical decision ever was to attach DADT repeal to a spending bill in the first place..

But it is appalling that repeal of DADT was turned into a partisan pissing match by the party of old straight or closeted white guys.

Shame.

 

[KTheLibra]

I agree that the Repuglicans could stop being bigots and stop filibustering the bill, but we all know by now that they're just awful and never will. The real shame here is the Dems being spineless. What they need to do is put their foot down and say, "this bill is only getting passed as is" then spread the word that Republicans are refusing to pass something that provides funding for the military, paint them as the unpatriotic slime they painted liberals as throughout the entire Iraq war, and do some damage. Unfortunately, they won't. Republicans lack hearts, souls, and common decency, and Democrats lack spine.

 

[scream4ever]

The key issue here is not voting against DADT, but breaking fillibuster over the Defense Authorization Bill. Once that is done it will be near impossible to vote to strip out the repeal language.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Call Harry Reid and tell him to:

-mark the Defense Authorization Bill for vote during the week of Nov. 29

-allow for open debate of the bill

Call Carl Levin and tell him to not stip repeal language from bill (I called his office and they said he has made no official statement on doing so yet)

Call the following Senators and tell them to vote to end the fillibuster on the Defense Authorization Bill (they are considered the most likely to flip, or their positions are unknown):

-Blanche Lincoln
-Mark Pryor
-Joe Manchin
-Mark Kirk
-Lisa Murkowski
-Susan Collins
-Olympia Snowe
-Scott Brown
-Richard Lugar
-George Voinovich

 

[jackoroe]

Quick, all you right wing JUBers. Write your Republican Senator. I'm sure when you tell them you're gay and voted for them, they will be more than happy to vote to repeal DADT.

Or maybe you could call Harry Reid, you know the majority leader, and have it brought to the floor for a vote. He does get to do that, you know. If anybody wants to filibuster it, make them read the fucking phone book until they drop over dead! And then keep the Senate in session day and night until it gets resolved.

Sorry, but this epic fail is brought to you by the democrats. They haven't even got the balls to bring it to a fucking vote! Pathetic!

 

[rareboy]

Or maybe you could call Harry Reid, you know the majority leader, and have it brought to the floor for a vote. He does get to do that, you know. If anybody wants to filibuster it, make them read the fucking phone book until they drop over dead! And then keep the Senate in session day and night until it gets resolved.

Sorry, but this epic fail is brought to you by the democrats. They haven't even got the balls to bring it to a fucking vote! Pathetic!

I respectfully disagree.

The republicans are basically threatening to bring the business to a standstill and have turned DADT into just one more opportunity to reinforce the idea of failure.

It wouldn't even have been an issue if the moderate Republicans had said they would support it and didn't use it as a political weapon.

Epic Fail? Yes.

But by the party that is blocking it. Not the liberals who supported repeal.

 

[jackoroe]

If it weren't for Democrats, Jack, it wouldn't even be an issue on the table, would it?

You are absolutely right. Had Clinton not instituted this policy, it most likely wouldn't be an issue at this juncture.

Do you ever get tired of making excuses for these guys?

 

[jackoroe]

I respectfully disagree.

The republicans are basically threatening to bring the business to a standstill and have turned DADT into just one more opportunity to reinforce the idea of failure.

It wouldn't even have been an issue if the moderate Republicans had said they would support it and didn't use it as a political weapon.

Epic Fail? Yes.

But by the party that is blocking it. Not the liberals who supported repeal.

The solution is quite simple, force their hand. Bring it to the floor and make them take a fucking stand. Make them obstruct the defense spending bill in front of the whole god damned world!! I'm so fucking disgusted with these pathetic democrat worms who have no spine whatever!

 

[DesperateHouseHusband]

Well I'll be. They should wait until Kirk gets sworn in before they vote on any legislation.

Not sure why you would want that, since Kirk voted against repeal as a member of the House, and the current guy in that seat, Burris, is on record in support of it.

 

[hotatlboi]

You are absolutely right. Had Clinton not instituted this policy, it most likely wouldn't be an issue at this juncture.

Do you ever get tired of making excuses for these guys?

You are absolutely right. If Clinton had not improved the situation for gays in the military, the "ASK, TELL, and get booted" witchhunts would still be going on.

Do you ever stop distorting the perception of reality to make it seem that the Democrats hate gays as much as your side does?

 

[hotatlboi]

The solution is quite simple, force their hand. Bring it to the floor and make them take a fucking stand. Make them obstruct the defense spending bill in front of the whole god damned world!!

News flash genius, they already did that.

The Republicans obstructed it and it went nowhere.

What makes you think they won't be willing to do the exact same thing again (especially when they have said they will) ?