Trump and first lady Melania test positive for coronavirus

[TX-Beau]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

At this point it is safe to say he actually has it.

Maybe, maybe not, maybe it is just the flu, maybe Hope has it and he's riding that wave. The only certainty is that they are all inveterate liars, for whom no deception is a step too far. Frankly if they announced his death I'd suspect some kind of messiah plot until I actual see the body go in the ground.

The one thing I'm not going to do is make any assumptions that anything they tell us is the truth, the evidence is overwhelming that they lie about everything.

 

[TX-Beau]

How long is the White House?

I imagine all of the rat holes would add up to quite a hole.

The mafia discovered the same thing, there is no honor among thieves.

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It could or could not mean anything. They would put any president in the hospital if he were sick.

He DID NOT have a series of mini strokes!

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

But there hasn’t been anything to suggest he is lying or a good reason as to why he would lie. Not to say that he wouldn’t but so far there has been plenty of info to say otherwise.

 

[TX-Beau]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

But there hasn’t been anything to suggest he is lying or a good reason as to why he would lie. Not to say that he wouldn’t but so far there has been plenty of info to say otherwise.

There's a very good reason he'd lie - what are we no longer talking about? From day one this entire administration suggests implicitly they are all liars, all the time.

 

[cityboy-stl]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

But there hasn’t been anything to suggest he is lying or a good reason as to why he would lie. Not to say that he wouldn’t but so far there has been plenty of info to say otherwise.

Yeah, I was thinking scam this morning too but it would have probably leaked out by now if that were true. He's really sick.
If he gets much sicker we'll see the 25th amendment finally be invoked.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

Yeah, I was thinking scam this morning too but it would have probably leaked out by now if that were true. He's really sick.
If he gets much sicker we'll see the 25th amendment finally be invoked.

Plus there is more info to suggest that he had symptoms before they informed the public about them having it. Considering how egotistical and arrogant, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he hid that fact because he knows it would make him look weak considering the amount of people he has called weak for taking precautions like Joe Biden or being sick themselves, like Hillary Clinton.

 

[gsdx]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

Maybe, maybe not, maybe it is just the flu, maybe Hope has it and he's riding that wave. The only certainty is that they are all inveterate liars, for whom no deception is a step too far. Frankly if they announced his death I'd suspect some kind of messiah plot until I actual see the body go in the ground.

The one thing I'm not going to do is make any assumptions that anything they tell us is the truth, the evidence is overwhelming that they lie about everything.

Indeed. It has not been just one boy crying 'wolf'.

 

[TX-Beau]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

Plus there is more info to suggest that he had symptoms before they informed the public about them having it. Considering how egotistical and arrogant, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he hid that fact because he knows it would make him look weak considering the amount of people he has called weak for taking precautions like Joe Biden or being sick themselves, like Hillary Clinton.

But he's been taking all that hydroxychloroquine. He CAN'T have it.

He's NOT thinking like a sane person, whatever flits into his head at any given moment is what comes out of his mouth. Then his little minions run about in a panic trying to fix the damage. The scariest part of this entire debacle is that no one has been at the helm for four years.

Whether he has it or not, the effect is that people are falling all over themselves to be sympathetic to the man who willfully killed 200,000 other people of the same thing, Biden has pulled all of his negative ads, and we all stopped looking at the crazy and the crises into which his insanity has pushed us all.

I don't care if he has covid, or anything else - it's utterly irrelevant, lets talk about the people he murdered with covid, the little kids he locked in kennel cages, the rapes, the graft, the outright theft, the tax frauds, the nepotism, the fucking treason.


I'm not mad at you.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

I am not saying that it isn't possible that he would lie about this, it is just it seems less likely that he is at this point for me. I mean he didn't post on twitter for 17 hours, pretty sure that is a record for him. Like signs to me, point that he does have it. If it turns out that he did lie and pulled off this ruse? I would absolutely not be surprised at all. Though, I don't think him having or lying about having COVID is going to do him any favors. He might think so, but the reality it won't.

 

[TX-Beau]

Re: Political Implications of the Coronavirus [SPLIT]

I am not saying that it isn't possible that he would lie about this, it is just it seems less likely that he is at this point for me. I mean he didn't post on twitter for 17 hours, pretty sure that is a record for him. Like signs to me, point that he does have it. If it turns out that he did lie and pulled off this ruse? I would absolutely not be surprised at all. Though, I don't think him having or lying about having COVID is going to do him any favors. He might think so, but the reality it won't.

That last is the final issue with trying to believe Trump. He's too insane to realize what is actually his best interest. He doesn't live in reality. If in his crazy he thinks it will benefit him, he'll run with it, and then next week he'll run with something else, and then it will be yet another thing. None of them will be consistent, none of them will agree, a lot of times his crap is wildly contradictory - but he'll run with it anyway.

It's not possible to evaluate - or predict - his actions through the lens of sanity. He'll do anything, or say anything, and is utterly incapable of seeing, or caring about the damage he does.

I don't care about his health, and I'm not going to be nice about it. We all need to remember his crazy and the hundreds of thousands of people it kills.

 

[cabinfever]

There's also no guarantee that It got the virus from Hicks. It is possible that It had the virus first, and passed it on to Hicks. We'll never know, I guess. I will say THIS: if the messaging, among Republicans (including the one at the very top of the food chain, especially - who has now caught the virus), had been to mask-up and be careful, IT'S MUCH LESS LIKELY for this status to have come to pass. But, NO: It has been the pro-COVID Spreader-in-Chief. We collectively could have had this under control like nearly every other country on the planet (including, even, some of those...um..."shithole countries" as It calls them) have managed to do. Hicks, or whoever It caught the virus from, would have probably not been infected.


Um, OK, guess that I kind of covered that in the above comment, or at least as implied. I very much remember (in early April or late March) the predictions that there would probably be A MAXIMUM OF 61,000 DEATHS if the pandemic was to be managed sensibly, and everybody following the masking/social distancing/hand-washing protocols.


OH HEY MAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU AROUND SINCE, IT SEEMS, EONS AGO. Hope you're doing well as all. And, we must all hope that it hasn't spread to Biden. It would be REALLY strange if there's an election with voters for BOTH parties needing to write-in their choices on ballots. Or maybe NOT all that strange because, after all, the election still happens in 2020.


But, there are more than 50 million people who are already "kind" to It. What good has that done, now?

I think any one of them could have passed it on to the rest of them - doesn't matter anyway. if you aren't wearing a mask or social distancing you are part of the spread of the disease one way or another. If they refuse to own their role in the spread of the disease and the deaths of 200,00 people then they will eventually reap what they have sown - no need for me to be happy about that. Revenge is not really something I would advocate or feel happy about because he is just a symptom of a much bigger problem .

Also - the "kindness" I would employ is not the hallmark movie kind of kindness - no cliche - it is the kindness to understand There But For The Grace Of God Go I. He is obviously mentally ill and I try to be t least minimally kind to people I know are mentally ill if only in a passing thought because I am not sure they had anything to do with it - or if it is nature or nurture or a combination of the two - and it could be me or anyone who has a mental illness. The kindness might not do anything for him but it is important for me to not wish him or anyone else dead because of it and in his case - that is where it begins and ends. I do have a few moments when I see a Karen when I want to slap them but then I wonder how much mental illness is at play.

Not wishing him dead is for me anyway and who I am - it really has nothing to do with him.

 

[cabinfever]

I forgot say there is an even bigger reason - and that is the bigger problem at hand and sometimes a horrible warning is much more effective than a good example -

For instance - we have had YEARS to deal with racism and to atone for the past - individually and collectively.

WE could have done it without him because it needed to be addressed - and so the horrible warning is upon us.

 

[TX-Beau]

...Not wishing him dead is for me anyway and who I am - it really has nothing to do with him.

You're a better person than I am. I don't wish him dead either, nor do I wish him incarcerated. I wish all the rest of them incarcerated, and I wish him broke (check on that one) and all his property confiscate, his golden apartments, failing golf clubs, his gaudy mansion by the sea - his expensive French bronzer. I wish him to have to live out the rest of his life, ridiculed by the world, in a broken down travel trailer, in a ratty trailer park, somewhere in backwater Mississippi, where all the people who voted for him get to listen to his ranting 24/7.

 

[cabinfever]

You're a better person than I am. I don't wish him dead either, nor do I wish him incarcerated. I wish all the rest of them incarcerated, and I wish him broke (check on that one) and all his property confiscate, his golden apartments, failing golf clubs, his gaudy mansion by the sea - his expensive French bronzer. I wish him to have to live out the rest of his life, ridiculed by the world, in a broken down travel trailer, in a ratty trailer park, somewhere in backwater Mississippi, where all the people who voted for him get to listen to his ranting 24/7.

I promise - I am NOT a "better person" and I would also hope he is incarcerated - he deserves to be. Just give him mental health access while he is doing time

 

[NotHardUp1]

Not sure why people are interpreting "thoughts and prayers" as positive wishes. Lots of people pray for the president to go to hell, and they certainly send their thoughts to that effect to social media forums the world over.

As for the astrology, I still don't understand. If the events in individual's lives can be forecast, prophesied, predicted, due to the principle of cause and effect, then the planet and the location should matter if that is the basis of the prediction.

The reader sees what looks like the equal of "on Tuesday, there will be a full eclipse, and the imposition of the moon before the sun portends doom to X." Then Tuesday comes and goes, and no doom to X. Two months later, X slips and falls, so how was the eclipse relevant?

I'm not disparaging astrology, but I do say it must stand on what it alleges, else it's just a lot of self-fulfilling retro-interpretation of what DID happen instead of what must.

 

[JRandell69]

I think if Democrats are mean and ugly about it that will actually HELP Trump. There are a lot of voters out there that think that kicking a man when he’s down is NOT COOL.

 

[MusicMan321]

I heard about this and it's crazy even the president has the virus he's never really wore a mask even when he went out or on tv nothing

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

I think if Democrats are mean and ugly about it that will actually HELP Trump. There are a lot of voters out there that think that kicking a man when he’s down is NOT COOL.

Then maybe the President himself and supporters themselves shouldn't do that very thing either.

 

[JRandell69]

The recovery rate is 99%. Trump will say right before the election. I had it myself and there’s nothing to it. Nothing to worry about.

He will bounce back the way Ronald Reagan did after he got shot. Gain popularity and get re-elected. Just saying.... Of course I could be wrong.

 

[Rickrock]

I am happy for the country, but sad for Donald and Melania. I heard that 11 people who helped set up in Cleveland for the debate have come down with Covid. They were there before the debate, but not at the debate after it started. This makes me wonder if Trump caught it in Cleveland and makes me worry about Biden. So far Biden is okay. I don't know about all of the U.S. laws on succession, but since the ballots are already printed, I believe that Republicans would vote for Trump and Pence and if Trump could not take the president's position, that Pence would be the default president. Then the Republicans would pick a new vice president to take the rest of the term. I know that this happened earlier when Spiro Agnew resigned and the party replaced him with Gerald Ford to finish the term. I wonder if there are some Republicans who would not vote for Trump, but who might vote for Pence if they thought this would happen and give Pence an edge. On the other hand, there is no telling what will happen at this time.