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Trump and first lady Melania test positive for coronavirus

I find it funny that we make fun of the fact and it problematic that Trump says fake news and despite sources that prove him wrong, he spreads lies. Then here we are 2 days after he announced he had COVID, it has spread in the White House to people that regularly interact or are close to him but we have people here still doubting he actually has it.

When it comes to the conspiracy theory part of his base, you are no different than them right now.
 
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His debate coach.
 
KaraBulut said:
Correction. If you look at the tables posted on the CDC website, compared to young adults between the ages of 18 and 29, a person between the ages of 65 and 74 is five times more likely to be admitted to a hospital and 90 times more likely to die of the disease. The case fatality rate in that age group is about 10%.
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Yes, and many in this group may survive but have lingering health problems from lung, heart, and kidney damage. Many of them take 6 months or more to recover and still have lingering health problems from the organ and blood vessel damage. At the very least, chronic fatigue and shortness of breath are very common in those who survive covid.
 
ClubLevelVegan said:
I find it funny that we make fun of the fact and it problematic that Trump says fake news and despite sources that prove him wrong, he spreads lies. Then here we are 2 days after he announced he had COVID, it has spread in the White House to people that regularly interact or are close to him but we have people here still doubting he actually has it.

When it comes to the conspiracy theory part of his base, you are no different than them right now.
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I find it absolutely predictable. When someone lies 24/7, they have no credibility. I don't care frankly. They were told what would happen, they only listed to Trumps crackpot white house guy who pushed the hydroxy and said masks were optional - the same guy who tested the toad btw - literally, a pox on all of them.
 
MARMITE said:
Yes, and many in this group may survive but have lingering health problems from lung, heart, and kidney damage. Many of them take 6 months or more to recover and still have lingering health problems from the organ and blood vessel damage. At the very least, chronic fatigue and shortness of breath are very common in those who survive covid.
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It killed my aunt, my sister got it, she's still trying to recover. Her Husband and son had it for a couple of days then got well - no issues yet. 16 other family members got it and recovered, they don't seem to be having any problems - but the Doctors all warn that that might not be the end of it. Then we all get to worry about reinfections.

Almost all of them believed Trump, all of them were at the 4th of July picnic my family throws every year - I refused to go.
 
MARMITE said:
Yes, and many in this group may survive but have lingering health problems from lung, heart, and kidney damage. Many of them take 6 months or more to recover and still have lingering health problems from the organ and blood vessel damage. At the very least, chronic fatigue and shortness of breath are very common in those who survive covid.
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And that's a very good point.

We're getting conflicting information about Trump's condition. On one hand, he was said to have a fever and cough yesterday. He has been given two experimental drugs (one of which was the highest recommended dose) that are only used for critically ill hospitalized patients.

We were also lied to about when he was tested. His doctor said today that he was diagnosed on Wed, which means that he went to the Duluth rally and the NJ fundraiser, with no mask, knowing that he was infected.

I was wondering how they had the Regeneron antibodies yesterday (did they have it stockpiled at the White House? :confused:). It appears that they knew he was ill a day and half before it was administered which explains why they had the drug on hand on Thursday afternoon.

Today, they're saying he has no fever and is feeling great*. :rolleyes:

*Listening to the WH physician today, I could hear the tap tap tap of someone dancing around the truth.
 
I'm reading that Trump's vitals have taken a troublesome turn and his "doctors" are just spinning and misinforming(which would surprise me not one bit). He selfishly went to his fundraiser here in my home state on his property at Bedminster knowing he was sick. Of course going maskless, and I wonder just how few people wore masks. He and his family came to the debate late and maskless, would not mask up when offered them. They are much like he is want him to recover so he can watch himself get fired by the people. He has so precious little empathy I can't get myself worked up to feel much for him and it's clear Melania isn't much different either. They kind of deserve each other.
 
MARMITE said:
Yes, and many in this group may survive but have lingering health problems from lung, heart, and kidney damage. Many of them take 6 months or more to recover and still have lingering health problems from the organ and blood vessel damage. At the very least, chronic fatigue and shortness of breath are very common in those who survive covid.
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Yeah - after covid they sent me home with a computer doctor which is a BP and a scale that sends all the info to the doctor and talks to me every day and I take all the vitals and the first question it ask me everyday is if I have any shortness of breath and/or if I have more or less fatigue than usual and a few other questions to see if my heart is OK. I also have the coagulation clinic stop by to check me out weekly due to the blood clot from covid. I was generally healthy before I had it and shortness of breath was not an issue even when I had it but if he really does have it I d not believe for a minute his doctor who said he was in great physical health a few years back.

He lies about everything 24/7 so I guess we will wait and see if he has a miraculous recovery and/or has stock in the "cure" to pay his debts to foreign banks. He has been promising a "cure" and it IS NOT a promise anyone can make much less this liar in chief.

If he actually does have it I hope he recovers.
 
So, so far what I said is correct. He had it since at least Wednesday, he hid the fact that he had it. Which is par for the course because why would he be upfront about it when they’ve underplayed the seriousness of the pandemic whole time?

The lying bit isn’t that he doesn’t actually have it, the lying part is that he had it before he announced it to the public. Now knowing he exposed a bunch of people on Thursday, so still fuck any sympathy btw, and what is happening now is they’re lying about his conditions. And he is more than likely a lot worse state than what we are being told.
 
ClubLevelVegan said:
So, so far what I said is correct. He had it since at least Wednesday, he hid the fact that he had it. Which is par for the course because why would he be upfront about it when they’ve underplayed the seriousness of the pandemic whole time?

The lying bit isn’t that he doesn’t actually have it, the lying part is that he had it before he announced it to the public. Now knowing he exposed a bunch of people on Thursday, so still fuck any sympathy btw, and what is happening now is they’re lying about his conditions. And he is more than likely a lot worse state than what we are being told.
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If he does have it (and I still don't believe him) - the people around him must be intelligent enough to understand they are dealing with a sociopath and he could give a rats ass who he infects. If they don't see who he is - maybe he is just a mirror for them and if that is the case - I am guessing they would go along with any scam.
 
cabinfever said:
If he actually does have it I hope he recovers.
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Why?

If he has it, and I believe he does, it means he exposed a bunch of people to COVID because he decided to lie about it for days before informing the public. He is a selfish prick through and through.
 
Well guys I decided to just stay home this weekend and not go out and fool around with anyone. It just didn’t seem right with President Trump being sick and all. Even though I know he would be like, Ah don’t worry about me. Go out and get you some boys! That is if you live somewhere where they’ll actually let you out of your home!
But still I just stayed home and didn’t do anything this weekend. No kidding.
 
JRandell69 said:
Well guys I decided to just stay home this weekend and not go out and fool around with anyone. It just didn’t seem right with President Trump being sick and all. Even though I know he would be like, Ah don’t worry about me. Go out and get you some boys! That is if you live somewhere where they’ll actually let you out of your home!
But still I just stayed home and didn’t do anything this weekend. No kidding.
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Why the fuck would we care what you choose to do? Pretty fucked up though, that it took Trump being in Walter Reed to check your behaviour. Whatever.
 
I mean, good for you I guess? Honestly, the more Republicans that get COVID the harder I get.
 
ClubLevelVegan said:
Why?
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Why? Because I don't want to be like him - I like my soul and want to keep it healthy..|

So - there is that and one other thing. I want him healthy enough to stand trial.

- and THAT is "why" -
 
I am even more convinced now that he is lying - this is a big con and I think I know why - all the press and attention is about HIM. He learned this from being a "reality" TV Star. That is what they do - create false drama (or one could says continual lies) to create ratings which he is obsessed with - and viewership.
 
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